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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Dec 19, 2023 9:56:19 GMT -5
If you insist, but to me it shows that there is greater commonality amongst those who are XX with a few exceptions, and greater commonality amongst those who are XY with a few exceptions. The entire discussion is about those "few exceptions", so handwaving them away is nothing but an attempt to dismiss the issues without addressing them. Actually, the discussion is primarily about an individual for whom those "exceptions" don't apply. Tate, as far as I know, is XY so there's a place for Tate according to my designation. Tate also, according to the articles, has been on suppression drugs and hasn't gone through "male" puberty; so according to the NCAA there's a place for Tate as well according to their rules. A place can be found for those who do have "exceptions", it's just that you probably disagree with where I think they should be placed.
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Post by molokaiboi on Dec 19, 2023 11:06:33 GMT -5
Transgender women in women’s volleyball? Ridiculous! Lol I’m part of the LGBT+iefbjeosjhehsidj community but this is just getting out of hand. There should be a trans league. If you’re transitioning into a woman.. go protest for a trans-woman league. Nothing wrong with that but leave the real women alone who didn’t have to transition. Well you're an awful member of the community. "Real women?" Get lost. Let’s be real here. Trans women … are trans woman.. they transitioned from a man into a woman… that’s what it means… trans… transition… they transitioned.. Let them have they own league.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 19, 2023 11:12:08 GMT -5
The internet was a mistake.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Dec 19, 2023 17:23:15 GMT -5
A lot of people are acting like competitive balance is the primary concern for the NCAA when it's really not. That's because, on this board, mostly colleges and universities are seen as institutions whose primary purpose is to field the best possible volleyball team. Yep, the whole objective is to beat out the brains of the other side. The more bludgeons, the better. Granted that the NCAA only cares about dollars these days.
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Post by karellen on Dec 19, 2023 20:07:03 GMT -5
Seriously, where is a moderator when you need one??
Someone lock this already
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Post by n00b on Dec 19, 2023 20:14:04 GMT -5
Seriously, where is a moderator when you need one?? Someone lock this already It's very much about women's college volleyball.
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Post by topspin on Dec 19, 2023 20:43:52 GMT -5
Well you're an awful member of the community. "Real women?" Get lost. Let’s be real here. Trans women … are trans woman.. they transitioned from a man into a woman… that’s what it means… trans… transition… they transitioned.. Let them have they own league. For context, this poster is one of the same idiots from the Hawaii thread. You know, the team that ended up getting threatening emails. And parents pleading for ignorant fools like this to just shut up.
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Post by JT on Dec 19, 2023 21:00:53 GMT -5
If you insist, but to me it shows that there is greater commonality amongst those who are XX with a few exceptions, and greater commonality amongst those who are XY with a few exceptions. The entire discussion is about those "few exceptions", so handwaving them away is nothing but an attempt to dismiss the issues without addressing them. Bingo! Sex and gender looks like they’re each binary as long as you ignore the small minority.
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Post by molokaiboi on Dec 19, 2023 23:10:11 GMT -5
Let’s be real here. Trans women … are trans woman.. they transitioned from a man into a woman… that’s what it means… trans… transition… they transitioned.. Let them have they own league. For context, this poster is one of the same idiots from the Hawaii thread. You know, the team that ended up getting threatening emails. And parents pleading for ignorant fools like this to just shut up. Here comes the sensitive crybaby girls. This is the woman’s volleyball thread not trans woman or LGBTQ+ volleyball thread buttercup. It’s idiots like you who think trans women are real woman when they clearly had to “transition” lol
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Post by JT on Dec 19, 2023 23:57:50 GMT -5
It’s idiots like you who think trans women are real woman when they clearly had to “transition” lol Might have some relevance if “trans” in “transgender” was short for “transition.” (Hint: it is not.)
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 20, 2023 0:06:01 GMT -5
In the end, this whole debate reduces to whether a small subset of people are disposable, or not. I'd prefer not to dispose of anyone.
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Post by molokaiboi on Dec 20, 2023 0:34:00 GMT -5
It’s idiots like you who think trans women are real woman when they clearly had to “transition” lol Might have some relevance if “trans” in “transgender” was short for “transition.” (Hint: it is not.) Transgender is an umbrella term… it could hit several issues in transitions (behavior, assigned sex at birth) 🙄 In this case.. we are talking about someone that does not conform to the sex to which they were assigned at birth. Please research what transgender means lol I’m pretty sure you’ll find that it means to “transition” in some certain way. topspin idiot.. Go research what’s a transgender too.
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Post by fromonhigh on Dec 20, 2023 11:23:58 GMT -5
In the end, this whole debate reduces to whether a small subset of people are disposable, or not. I'd prefer not to dispose of anyone. Sorry, this is not about making anyone disposable. This is about a disagreement and or debate about whether people of a certain biological sex can change to the opposite sex. What is sad is that too many people who yell "hate" seem to have at least as much hate as the other side.
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Post by nederlander on Dec 20, 2023 11:48:01 GMT -5
Who in this thread has suggested anyone is disposable? Transgender persons are each irreplacable human beings. The debate is about whether biologically-born males should be able to compete in biologically-born female sports. That’s the disagreement. It’s not about what value any person has. None of us have any say in that matter, though each of us has a responsibility to value others. But valuing others doesn’t mean outright agreement, and disagreement doesn’t equal hatred.
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Post by mervinswerved on Dec 20, 2023 11:50:50 GMT -5
That isn't the standard for competing in NCAA women's volleyball.
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