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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 18, 2023 11:45:51 GMT -5
So that’s why nobody trains it then? Bad use of time for little return? Would that serve receive look make you think twice when you were serving or no? Very curious as I just can’t imagine that NOBODY can get proficient enough to at least have an option when the platform passing goes deep in the tank I've seen some women's players do it and the result is never great. A&M's passers tried it some. If it's not an ace going backwards/out of bounds, the ball usually gets popped straight up and not to target
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 11:46:18 GMT -5
All I know is that’s not the same Nebraska team that played Pitt and I’m mad
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 18, 2023 11:47:06 GMT -5
All I know is that’s not the same Nebraska team that played Pitt and I’m mad Um, bonus? JK You have my condolences. I also picked Pitt to beat Nebraska
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Post by trojansc on Dec 18, 2023 11:47:46 GMT -5
I really truly still cannot believe how much of a beat down this was. it might be one of the only final fours I never bother to go back and watch in the future bc like... why? Lol ALTHO, I can see how Texas fans would have this sh*t on repeat for the next several seasons lmao I re-watched the end of the 20s when Jerritt got the red, and Asija's service run. Even Asija's service run was mixed, at some point, it's just brutal to see shank after shank. Of course, Texas fans living for it.
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Post by nellynel on Dec 18, 2023 11:48:30 GMT -5
I really truly still cannot believe how much of a beat down this was. it might be one of the only final fours I never bother to go back and watch in the future bc like... why? Lol ALTHO, I can see how Texas fans would have this sh*t on repeat for the next several seasons lmao Until Direct TV comes and rips my DVR out of my cold dead hands.
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Post by utexrulz23 on Dec 18, 2023 11:49:01 GMT -5
Just rewatched the first set. A few things.
-really don’t know why Texas didn’t challenge the rally where Jenna was called for a net. So many things could’ve been reviewed. Hard to do that with one challenge, but still.
-I totally understand coaches not abusing refs (I am a ref) but when the call is wrong, there’s an issue. I’d love to hear what the R2 was actually saying in response. JE probably shouldn’t have been so aggressive on the onset but he has a right to complain about a rule violation like that. (At the arena I thought this was frustration about not calling a double on Bergen.) Nebraska had one block and it was during this missed call. Combine that with the missed doubles/nets on the other big point, and Texas’ hitting percentage is even higher.
-loved seeing Erik try to pull coach away during the TO called at 22-22 and he just waved him off, lol.
-there was one serve Texas let drop (was out but it was close) from Bergen. I really thought, if that had been an ace, this could’ve totally changed the match.
-in the moment, I think you just had to know how important this first set was. Nebraska felt capable at any time to run (and they did several times). Felt like, oddly, the red card actually deflated them.
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Post by diggerdive on Dec 18, 2023 11:58:47 GMT -5
Just rewatched the first set. A few things. -really don’t know why Texas didn’t challenge the rally where Jenna was called for a net. So many things could’ve been reviewed. Hard to do that with one challenge, but still. -I totally understand coaches not abusing refs (I am a ref) but when the call is wrong, there’s an issue. I’d love to hear what the R2 was actually saying in response. JE probably shouldn’t have been so aggressive on the onset but he has a right to complain about a rule violation like that. (At the arena I thought this was frustration about not calling a double on Bergen.) Nebraska had one block and it was during this missed call. Combine that with the missed doubles/nets on the other big point, and Texas’ hitting percentage is even higher. -loved seeing Erik try to pull coach away during the TO called at 22-22 and he just waved him off, lol. -there was one serve Texas let drop (was out but it was close) from Bergen. I really thought, if that had been an ace, this could’ve totally changed the match. -in the moment, I think you just had to know how important this first set was. Nebraska felt capable at any time to run (and they did several times). Felt like, oddly, the red card actually deflated them. We felt like the red card kicked Texas into its higher state of consciousness.
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Post by diggerdive on Dec 18, 2023 12:04:10 GMT -5
I really truly still cannot believe how much of a beat down this was. it might be one of the only final fours I never bother to go back and watch in the future bc like... why? Lol ALTHO, I can see how Texas fans would have this sh*t on repeat for the next several seasons lmao Until Direct TV comes and rips my DVR out of my cold dead hands. ROFL! And it was so nice of Texas to do it so succinctly. You can complete the viewing of the Nebraska collapse before your favorite corn muffin recipe is ready and hot out of the oven!
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Post by mibadger on Dec 18, 2023 12:04:12 GMT -5
I just know Emily somewhere crying lmao My husband and I have a rule which IMO has kept us together for 20 years: if you're wrong, you have to admit that you were wrong, and if the other person was right, you have to give them their victory and admit to their face that they were right. Would love to get both from EE lol I think she’ll own it. What they did this weekend, and to Stanford last weekend, was unbelievable.
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Post by mibadger on Dec 18, 2023 12:10:19 GMT -5
All I know is that’s not the same Nebraska team that played Pitt and I’m mad I think the way Texas played was the cause of that tho. Their serving was so tough that it just threw everything off. Even when they got the serve back across the net Texas was often getting good passes and then just running their offense.
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Post by tinboat on Dec 18, 2023 12:10:56 GMT -5
Agree, but this wasn't the team that was swept by Kansas St (a team Nebraska swept on the road earlier in the year), let alone by Washington Stata and Stanford at home. Or the one TCU took to 5 sets. Or even the one Tenn had a match point in set 4 against. Things clicked, balls bounced their way (Elliot even said that), a perfect storm in the final 3 matches. Wisc and Nebraska played poorly, Texas played great, end of the Final 4. To say Stanford, Wisc and Nebr seasons were a mirage because of it, is wrong. Saying that implies that everyone that didn't win the tournament had a failed season. Lot of teams had great, even historic seasons; Texas took the title. Congrats to them, they earned it, they were the best team in 2023 and left no doubts. I expected Wisc to take home the trophy, like most did. Had Wisc (or Neb) met Texas the night of the Tenn match they might have. Texas played pretty close to perfect volleyball the last 2 matches, maybe even 3 matches, it's very hard to do. Even Halter said it, every block was set up perfectly (likely wasn't, but close enough), made playing defense very easy.
Hammer's post is wrong, that is why I posted. 1 match doesn't erase the previous 30 before it.
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Post by harryspotter on Dec 18, 2023 12:13:45 GMT -5
Also it’s funny because I thought swindles setting was actually very poor for most of the match and they still wrecked shop What do you think the score will be if she was setting really well?
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Post by hipsterfilth on Dec 18, 2023 12:15:56 GMT -5
1 match doesn't erase the previous 30 before it. this is a nice sentiment, but I think even the Nebraska coaches, players, and staff will say it isn't true. That might be true of the Wisco loss or of Texas' LBSU / KSU losses, but elite programs are kind of judged by that last weekend performance. IMO, -14, -11 is gonna sting for a while. You're supposed to get to 25 pts in a single set, not two sets combined ya know?
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 18, 2023 12:16:55 GMT -5
Also it’s funny because I thought swindles setting was actually very poor for most of the match and they still wrecked shop What do you think the score will be if she was setting really well? LMFAO. Congratulations on your standing in the VT bracket challenge. I did not have your faith at the start of the tournament
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Post by bounce22 on Dec 18, 2023 12:26:00 GMT -5
So that’s why nobody trains it then? Bad use of time for little return? Would that serve receive look make you think twice when you were serving or no? Very curious as I just can’t imagine that NOBODY can get proficient enough to at least have an option when the platform passing goes deep in the tank I've seen some women's players do it and the result is never great. A&M's passers tried it some. If it's not an ace going backwards/out of bounds, the ball usually gets popped straight up and not to target Alright, I’m getting the sense that most people here are convinced that, for whatever reason, women can’t pass effectively overhand. Alright then, when Wisconsin and Nebraska go south with their passing, Shef and JC’s only answer is possibly make some subs, some lateral stack shifts, hide someone …. the usual adjustments. If that’s doesn’t work, they sit back, shrug their shoulders and say “Man, these guys are serving great … I’ve done all I can do.” That’s simplifying it of course but it seems everyone is okay with just that. And that’s really the first time I’m hearing “women can’t do that well, even great athletes” … that’s a stunner for me
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