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Post by tinboat on Dec 18, 2023 12:33:30 GMT -5
1 match doesn't erase the previous 30 before it. this is a nice sentiment, but I think even the Nebraska coaches, players, and staff will say it isn't true. That might be true of the Wisco loss or of Texas' LBSU / KSU losses, but elite programs are kind of judged by that last weekend performance. IMO, -14, -11 is gonna sting for a while. You're supposed to get to 25 pts in a single set, not two sets combined ya know? Natties are rare. 1 a year per sport. If you judge any team only on winning the Natty, you would likely would have quit watching a long time ago. Texas has 4 Nattys and 16 Final 4's I want to say. SEC as a confernence has 1. ACC has never won one. Doesn't really matter if you lose by 1 or by 50, you lost. Every team that lost in the tournament was disappointed in the result. Last I checked the only team that wasn't disappointed ended up being Texas. Yes, losing the way we did stings, but not any more than losing 15-12 in the 5th. I recall Nebraska beating Florida as an underdog in football one year 62-20 in the championship game. If I remember right, Florida won the Natty the next year. You hurt, you learn, you move on. 2024 will be a fun year to watch with different team dynamics. Expect Texas and Wisc to be co-favorites going into the year, but Nebraska, Pitt, Stanford, Louisville, others will be in the mix until they aren't. Again, only 1 team will not be disappointed in the outcome of the tournament. Doesn't mean other teams won't have successful seasons.
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Post by utexrulz23 on Dec 18, 2023 12:34:13 GMT -5
Okay, second set over.
-wow. Watching it again was beautiful. The 10 serve (11-0 run) series from Asjia was special. Relentless. Even more impressive, IMO, that only four were aces, and twice she served out of timeouts and didn’t get iced.
-I kind of feel like JC made the wrong sub. I think I would’ve subbed a little for Harper and let Ally be hidden more. It was rough to put all that pressure on Hayden.
-these challenges have to speed up. I’m ready for those improvements.
-so happy for Jenna. (Oh, and, this thread showed some real Nebraska ugly with regard to Ally. Texas wasn’t immune to this earlier in the year, but still, ugly then and ugly now.)
-18-4 run to end the set is wild!
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Post by basil on Dec 18, 2023 12:45:43 GMT -5
ALSO Molly's cut shot in the third? fully intentional
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Post by tinboat on Dec 18, 2023 12:47:39 GMT -5
Okay, second set over. -wow. Watching it again was beautiful. The 10 serve (11-0 run) series from Asjia was special. Relentless. Even more impressive, IMO, that only four were aces, and twice she served out of timeouts and didn’t get iced. -I kind of feel like JC made the wrong sub. I think I would’ve subbed a little for Harper and let Ally be hidden more. It was rough to put all that pressure on Hayden. -these challenges have to speed up. I’m ready for those improvements. -so happy for Jenna. -18-4 run to end the set is wild! Hayden is a very good passer, just hasn't sorted out the hitting part as well. Especially coming in cold off the bench. She actually passed well the few points she was in, at least it was better than what we were doing as a team. She wasn't a good option as a hitter after not playing for several matches in that environment. She subbed in during the year for Murray a few times. When seemingly nobody on the entire team can pass, not sure what you can do. Wisc had the same issue. We didn't pass well in set 1, why we lost that set. It didn't seem like we knew what a volleyball was in set 2 or 3. Texas caused that in back to back matches. You rarely see that once in the final 4, Texas just did it again (did it last year as well).
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Post by diggerdive on Dec 18, 2023 12:50:01 GMT -5
Agree, but this wasn't the team that was swept by Kansas St (a team Nebraska swept on the road earlier in the year), let alone by Washington Stata and Stanford at home. Or the one TCU took to 5 sets. Or even the one Tenn had a match point in set 4 against. Things clicked, balls bounced their way (Elliot even said that), a perfect storm in the final 3 matches. Wisc and Nebraska played poorly, Texas played great, end of the Final 4. To say Stanford, Wisc and Nebr seasons were a mirage because of it, is wrong. Saying that implies that everyone that didn't win the tournament had a failed season. Lot of teams had great, even historic seasons; Texas took the title. Congrats to them, they earned it, they were the best team in 2023 and left no doubts. I expected Wisc to take home the trophy, like most did. Had Wisc (or Neb) met Texas the night of the Tenn match they might have. Texas played pretty close to perfect volleyball the last 2 matches, maybe even 3 matches, it's very hard to do. Even Halter said it, every block was set up perfectly (likely wasn't, but close enough), made playing defense very easy. Hammer's post is wrong, that is why I posted. 1 match doesn't erase the previous 30 before it. As a 25 year Texas Volleyball fan I’ve grown accustomed to the handwringing and “but ifs” and “what ifs” haters like to play to diminish a Longhorn victory. It’s just kind of ho-hum at this point, oh look another person that wants to play Matrix. The really nice thing about this year is how decisive the epic beat downs were. Wisconsin and Nebraska played like an auto-bid Ivy League team. A team in a first or second round score, where there’d be no crazy post game justifications. But it seems we must still find ways to diminish the reality that maybe, just maybe JE and his team CAN coach and scheme in real time, can evolve, can teach elite passing and setting and serving bombs. So now it’s the portal. It’s USA volleyball influences. It’s a player’s age. It’s “we do things more wholesome.” It’s the pushes. It’s a “perfect storm.” 😆 …a perfect storm that lasts weeks and takes out the top 3 seeds. And on and on and on. It will always be something else with these people, but the truth lies not in their stars, but in the score. Paul Harvey. Good day!
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Post by harryspotter on Dec 18, 2023 12:50:55 GMT -5
What do you think the score will be if she was setting really well? LMFAO. Congratulations on your standing in the VT bracket challenge. I did not have your faith at the start of the tournament Oh. That bracket challenge. I can’t figure out how to look at the standings. Did I finish in the Top 10? How can you not have faith with Madi on your team? When I talked to her at the start of the season, she was focused but stressed. When I talked to her again after the Kansas State loss, she was still focused but not that stressed anymore. There was acceptance and belief in her eyes. Then, at the A&M match, you can see from her face that she is focused and relaxed. Reminded me of Usain Bolt at the last 10 meters of his race. His face becomes relaxed. That’s a sign that the athlete is at their peak and ready to get on another gear if needed. Asjia and Emma had the same face after the Stanford match.
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Post by eotexas5 on Dec 18, 2023 12:53:05 GMT -5
I really truly still cannot believe how much of a beat down this was. it might be one of the only final fours I never bother to go back and watch in the future bc like... why? Lol ALTHO, I can see how Texas fans would have this sh*t on repeat for the next several seasons lmao me with the 2021 match against nebraska i've locked that memory up in my lil cupboard like dumbledore, never to see the light of day again <3
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Post by utexrulz23 on Dec 18, 2023 13:02:49 GMT -5
Set 3
- loved that dig and save by Lexi/Harper. If they win that point, I think this match gets extended.
- these rules need to be gone. Let them play and if you call it, call it consistently. All this and felt like home cooking.
- was this 11-1 (or 12-1?) and a 6-0 to end the match? Wow. So wild.
- no reason for JC to wait so long to use timeouts. Texas really outcoached Nebraska. You waited until you were down by 9?!? Sure the media timeout at 5 down, but this is the third set sir. Don’t give up on your team.
- of all the things they explain as far as rules, they don’t really explain hitting percentage. Just an observation.
- the crowd was out of this long before Texas had it in the bag. What’s the point of that many fans if you are giving up?
- love the Asjia digs to extend her serves!!!
- ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE
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Post by tinboat on Dec 18, 2023 13:04:40 GMT -5
Agree, but this wasn't the team that was swept by Kansas St (a team Nebraska swept on the road earlier in the year), let alone by Washington Stata and Stanford at home. Or the one TCU took to 5 sets. Or even the one Tenn had a match point in set 4 against. Things clicked, balls bounced their way (Elliot even said that), a perfect storm in the final 3 matches. Wisc and Nebraska played poorly, Texas played great, end of the Final 4. To say Stanford, Wisc and Nebr seasons were a mirage because of it, is wrong. Saying that implies that everyone that didn't win the tournament had a failed season. Lot of teams had great, even historic seasons; Texas took the title. Congrats to them, they earned it, they were the best team in 2023 and left no doubts. I expected Wisc to take home the trophy, like most did. Had Wisc (or Neb) met Texas the night of the Tenn match they might have. Texas played pretty close to perfect volleyball the last 2 matches, maybe even 3 matches, it's very hard to do. Even Halter said it, every block was set up perfectly (likely wasn't, but close enough), made playing defense very easy. Hammer's post is wrong, that is why I posted. 1 match doesn't erase the previous 30 before it. As a 25 year Texas Volleyball fan I’ve grown accustomed to the handwringing and “but ifs” and “what ifs” haters like to play to diminish a Longhorn victory. It’s just kind of ho-hum at this point, oh look another person that wants to play Matrix. The really nice thing about this year is how decisive the epic beat downs were. Wisconsin and Nebraska played like an auto-bid Ivy League team. A team in a first or second round score, where there’d be no crazy post game justifications. But it seems we must still find ways to diminish the reality that maybe, just maybe JE and his team CAN coach and scheme in real time, can evolve, can teach passing and setting and serving bombs. So now it’s the portal. It’s USA volleyball influences. It’s a player’s age. It’s “we do things more wholesome.” It’s the pushes. It’s a “perfect storm.” 😆 …a perfect storm that lasts weeks and takes out the top 3 seeds. And on and on and on. It will always be something else with these people, but the truth lies not in the stars, but in the score. Paul Harvey. Good day! Assume you think Texas played equally as well VS Tenn, K-St and even TCU as they did VS Stanford, Wisc and Nebraska then? I wasn't dissing Texas in any way, playing big on the biggest stage, they did that and did it well. My point in the 'perfect storm' was that Texas played near flawless volleyball and the others didn't play very well at all. Some matches playing the way Stanford, Wisc and Nebr played would have been good enough to get a W, but not the way Texas was playing. If you want to take exception to that, then I can tell you the sky is blue and you will tell me it isn't, just because you think every post from a non-Texas fan is in some way trying to diss the Longhorns. Accept the complement and quit trying to poke holes into everyone else that isn't a longhorn fan. They played great and did something no other team in history was able to do. They had the best season in 2023, no doubts. My point is other teams also had great seasons.
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Post by diggerdive on Dec 18, 2023 13:06:59 GMT -5
As a 25 year Texas Volleyball fan I’ve grown accustomed to the handwringing and “but ifs” and “what ifs” haters like to play to diminish a Longhorn victory. It’s just kind of ho-hum at this point, oh look another person that wants to play Matrix. The really nice thing about this year is how decisive the epic beat downs were. Wisconsin and Nebraska played like an auto-bid Ivy League team. A team in a first or second round score, where there’d be no crazy post game justifications. But it seems we must still find ways to diminish the reality that maybe, just maybe JE and his team CAN coach and scheme in real time, can evolve, can teach passing and setting and serving bombs. So now it’s the portal. It’s USA volleyball influences. It’s a player’s age. It’s “we do things more wholesome.” It’s the pushes. It’s a “perfect storm.” 😆 …a perfect storm that lasts weeks and takes out the top 3 seeds. And on and on and on. It will always be something else with these people, but the truth lies not in the stars, but in the score. Paul Harvey. Good day! Assume you think Texas played equally as well VS Tenn, K-St and even TCU as they did VS Stanford, Wisc and Nebraska then? I wasn't dissing Texas in any way, playing big on the biggest stage, they did that and did it well. My point in the 'perfect storm' was that Texas played near flawless volleyball and the others didn't play very well at all. Some matches playing the way Stanford, Wisc and Nebr played would have been good enough to get a W, but not the way Texas was playing. If you want to take exception to that, then I can tell you the sky is blue and you will tell me it isn't, just because you think every post from a non-Texas fan is in some way trying to diss the Longhorns. Accept the complement and quit trying to poke holes into everyone else that isn't a longhorn fan. They played great and did something no other team in history was able to do. They had the best season in 2023, no doubts. My point is other teams also had great seasons. Do I really need to read another post from you with run-on sentences and no paragraphs? I’ll see how I’m feeling tomorrow.
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Post by knapplc on Dec 18, 2023 13:07:09 GMT -5
Assume you think Texas played equally as well VS Tenn, K-St and even TCU as they did VS Stanford, Wisc and Nebraska then? I wasn't dissing Texas in any way, playing big on the biggest stage, they did that and did it well. My point in the 'perfect storm' was that Texas played near flawless volleyball and the others didn't play very well at all. Some matches playing the way Stanford, Wisc and Nebr played would have been good enough to get a W, but not the way Texas was playing. If you want to take exception to that, then I can tell you the sky is blue and you will tell me it isn't, just because you think every post from a non-Texas fan is in some way trying to diss the Longhorns. Accept the complement and quit trying to poke holes into everyone else that isn't a longhorn fan. They played great and did something no other team in history was able to do. They had the best season in 2023, no doubts. My point is other teams also had great seasons. This poster isn't content with the Texas win and is searching for Husker fans to start things with. Best to just ignore them.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 18, 2023 13:07:47 GMT -5
LMFAO. Congratulations on your standing in the VT bracket challenge. I did not have your faith at the start of the tournament Oh. That bracket challenge. I can’t figure out how to look at the standings. Did I finish in the Top 10? How can you not have faith with Madi on your team? When I talked to her at the start of the season, she was focused but stressed. When I talked to her again after the Kansas State loss, she was still focused but not that stressed anymore. There was acceptance and belief in her eyes. Then, at the A&M match, you can see from her face that she is focused and relaxed. Reminded me of Usain Bolt at the last 10 meters of his race. His face becomes relaxed. That’s a sign that the athlete is at their peak and ready to get on another gear if needed. Asjia and Emma had the same face after the Stanford match. #6 baby: challonge.com/q0g4402z/predictions
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Post by harryspotter on Dec 18, 2023 13:08:46 GMT -5
Oh. That bracket challenge. I can’t figure out how to look at the standings. Did I finish in the Top 10? How can you not have faith with Madi on your team? When I talked to her at the start of the season, she was focused but stressed. When I talked to her again after the Kansas State loss, she was still focused but not that stressed anymore. There was acceptance and belief in her eyes. Then, at the A&M match, you can see from her face that she is focused and relaxed. Reminded me of Usain Bolt at the last 10 meters of his race. His face becomes relaxed. That’s a sign that the athlete is at their peak and ready to get on another gear if needed. Asjia and Emma had the same face after the Stanford match. #6 baby: challonge.com/q0g4402z/predictionsOh wow!
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 18, 2023 13:14:39 GMT -5
Set 3 - loved that dig and save by Lexi/Harper. If they win that point, I think this match gets extended. - these rules need to be gone. Let them play and if you call it, call it consistently. All this and felt like home cooking. - was this 11-1 (or 12-1?) and a 6-0 to end the match? Wow. So wild. - no reason for JC to wait so long to use timeouts. Texas really outcoached Nebraska. You waited until you were down by 9?!? Sure the media timeout at 5 down, but this is the third set sir. Don’t give up on your team. - of all the things they explain as far as rules, they don’t really explain hitting percentage. Just an observation. - the crowd was out of this long before Texas had it in the bag. What’s the point of that many fans if you are giving up? - love the Asjia digs to extend her serves!!! - ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE The same Cook who gets blasted for calling them too early? What was going to be said that hadn’t been said over and over again? “Hey, we need to pass”……. I probably would have called one sooner, but he knows his team, and he’s a pretty good coach. Coaches timeout didn’t decide this match.
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Post by utexrulz23 on Dec 18, 2023 13:15:05 GMT -5
Post Match things - Nebraska will be scary next year. I believe their presser where this will stay with them. You know they hated it to go down like this and will want a rematch in 2024 at some point.
- JC’s comments are shady. They may be factual, but they’re shady too. The Nebraska players didn’t bother me. I won’t criticize players for that response when I have no clue how ours would’ve responded.
- love the Texas relationships. The embraces. Love that they show them. It was electric being there and I loved every minute.
- I know she was all tourney team, but Emma is not getting enough credit. How she got one or two questions at that presser is not it. She’s a key cog!
- speaking of all-tourney team, I agree Beason’s inclusion is odd. Honestly Alick too. I would’ve still put Murray on it and given the goose egg in the final, Babcock was more than worthy. If you need to put another MB then keep Alick and replace Beason with Babcock.
- Murray impressed me. I wasn’t aware of her stats at the game and I see that they’re not great, but she really is an all-around player and baller.
- Texas is truly been blessed with Logan, Asjia, and Madi. The leadership and the power may be the best that’s ever been. It’s the leadership for me. And it doesn’t feel like lip service. Idk how anyone can’t stan them!
- oh I was not ready for those Madi tears. My allergies kicked in big time!!!
- savoring, but next year is going to be wild. Conference realignment, players returning, and the storylines are huge. They need to build on the growth of this sport earlier and get it even larger. 25k (idk if Louisville can even do that) or bust!!!
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