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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 10, 2024 13:23:55 GMT -5
I appreciate the historical perspective. What’s changed recently is the higher enrollment of women, which drives increasing scholarships for exclusively women, which drives the need to add women’s teams or cut men’s teams. The answer might not be adding women’s beach volleyball, but something will need to change. Something very well may, but if Wisconsin is adding a women's sport it's going to be gymnastics (which has 10 Big Ten schools and would not necessitate new facilities) or field hockey (ditto) and not a beach volleyball program. Jinx |
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jan 10, 2024 13:29:36 GMT -5
Something very well may, but if Wisconsin is adding a women's sport it's going to be gymnastics (which has 10 Big Ten schools and would not necessitate new facilities) or field hockey (ditto) and not a beach volleyball program. Jinx Yeah, but batenhorst doesn’t want to do gymnastics, field hockey, or lacrosse. Just kidding, you make good points. |
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Post by robtearle on Jan 10, 2024 13:30:43 GMT -5
Correct. Except there's no will. So there's no way. Wisconsin is not adding beach volleyball. The argument about even adding back baseball has been a non-starter for decades. I appreciate the historical perspective. What’s changed recently is the higher enrollment of women, which drives increasing scholarships for women relative to men, which drives the need to add women’s teams or cut men’s teams. The answer might not be adding women’s beach volleyball, but something will need to change. According to reports online from the UW Registrar, women have outnumbered men for at least the last ten years. 51% to 49% or 52% to 48%, etc. It is not a "recent change". |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jan 10, 2024 14:01:09 GMT -5
I appreciate the historical perspective. What’s changed recently is the higher enrollment of women, which drives increasing scholarships for women relative to men, which drives the need to add women’s teams or cut men’s teams. The answer might not be adding women’s beach volleyball, but something will need to change. According to reports online from the UW Registrar, women have outnumbered men for at least the last ten years. 51% to 49% or 52% to 48%, etc. It is not a "recent change". It's a good point, but that makes UW a bit of an outlier. The current overall ratio of females to males in 4-year colleges is 1.25 to 1.3. That ratio increased sharply from 1975-2000, then more slowly since then, albeit with an uptick until right before the pandemic hit. |
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Post by robtearle on Jan 10, 2024 14:08:46 GMT -5
For the 2021-2022 year, UW had 450 female participants on their athletic teams and 439 male participants (though 382 non-duplicate male athletes to 373 female non-duplicates)
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 10, 2024 14:23:34 GMT -5
For the 2021-2022 year, UW had 450 female participants on their athletic teams and 439 male participants (though 382 non-duplicate male athletes to 373 female non-duplicates) How many of those women are fake rowers? |
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Post by gohuskervolleyball on Jan 10, 2024 14:26:20 GMT -5
What’s yalls predicted starting lineups based off your current roster for next year?
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Post by robtearle on Jan 10, 2024 14:31:39 GMT -5
For the 2021-2022 year, UW had 450 female participants on their athletic teams and 439 male participants (though 382 non-duplicate male athletes to 373 female non-duplicates) How many of those women are fake rowers? Having live in Lakeshore dorms and seen the crew athletes running along the Lakeshore Trail in the morning and then out in the boats on Mendota in the afternoon, I'd answer "none". (And you're the last person I would have expected to cast such aspersions on female UW athletes.) |
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Post by mnbadger on Jan 10, 2024 14:33:02 GMT -5
What’s yalls predicted starting lineups based off your current roster for next year? OH - Franklin OH- Orzoł MB - Booth MB - Robinson Opp - Smrek --> DS - Schumacher S - Fuerbringer L - GG I could easily see this being completely correct or wrong on up to 5 of these 8 picks. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 10, 2024 14:34:20 GMT -5
What’s yalls predicted starting lineups based off your current roster for next year? Assuming no additional transfers: Franklin/Orzoɫ Booth/Robinson Fuerbringer/Smrek (Schumacher) Güçtekin |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 10, 2024 14:37:08 GMT -5
How many of those women are fake rowers? Having live in Lakeshore dorms and seen the crew athletes running along the Lakeshore Trail in the morning and then out in the boats on Mendota in the afternoon, I'd answer "none". (And you're the last person I would have expected to cast such aspersions on female UW athletes.) Oh, I didn't mean it like that. The actual ladies in the boats are badasses. I was talking about the reports that many P5 schools, including UW, pad their women's rowing rosters with people who never set foot in a boat in order to comply with Title IX: Not All Sports Are Created Equal, The Truth Behind Women’s Rowing and how it Saves Football |
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Post by veebz17 on Jan 10, 2024 14:41:26 GMT -5
What’s yalls predicted starting lineups based off your current roster for next year? Assuming no additional transfers: Franklin/Orzoɫ Booth/Robinson Fuerbringer/Smrek (Schumacher) Güçtekin I think you’re probably right but I’m hoping to see Shadd-Ceres crack the lineup and have Orzol back at libero |
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jan 10, 2024 14:44:35 GMT -5
What’s yalls predicted starting lineups based off your current roster for next year? Assuming no additional transfers: Franklin/Orzoɫ Booth/Robinson Fuerbringer/Smrek (Schumacher) Güçtekin Given the assumption, I concur, except Damrow might prevail over either Schumacher or Güçtekin. I do think it’s likely we’ll get a fourth OH, whoever that might be. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Jan 10, 2024 16:45:14 GMT -5
I hope we don't get Batenhorst now that she's in the portal now that Landfair joined Failmantle Dockers (whoops wrong forum) aka Nebraska. But if we do get her then she'll likely replace TTA's role and keep Julia at Libero which isn't ideal for me at least. We need Julia at OH2 and I saw someone posted that Julia has a better hitting percentage than Batenhorst, plus she blocks well despite being shorter and we all know that she's a superior defender and passer to the point that she played Libero. I have a feeling that Batenhorst will disappoint us similarly to how TTA played earlier in the season but I do think she maybe an upgrade on TTA and I also wouldn't be surprised if she plays better than TTA did. If she want to play 6ro then the can put a line through the Badgers. I just don't see having Orzol playing front row as conducive to a title for Wisconsin. If Batenhorst is available, Kelly should snatch her up. Then grab a great libero from the portal too. That libero, GG and Orzol can duke it out for playing time in the back row. Orzol could be good sub for whomever takes L2. From my view, WI is in that now even smaller echelon of teams that could contend for a title in the next couple of years. Simple strategy for all those teams: serve tough, assemble an exceptional back court, have a great setter. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Offense is easy. I realize that this could then be an argument for having Orzol play front row--that as long as the back court is solid, pretty much any D1 hitter should be able to put the ball away consistently. But in this ever-increasing game of inches, if I were a coach with an outside hitter on championship point hitting with no block up, I'd choose Batenhorst over Orzol 99% of the time. Edit: Two things I'm confused about with Batenhorst's portal announcement that I'm too lazy to search: 1. I thought the portal closed for this first round on Jan 1? 2. Did I read that she wants to play beach? Does WI even have a beach team? I agree that if Batenhorst is available, they should take her. Where I don't agree is that Orzol is not good enough at OH for us to win a national championship (edit for clarity: I'm saying she IS good enough). Exhibit A: Texas won this year with Jenna Wenaas at OH, and she was really struggling for most of the year and managed to elevate that to "decent" in the championship game. If Orzol is our OH, she becomes a great OH2 immediately* - great center back defense, very good passing, and the ability to hold her own front row including blocking well for her height. And her career hitting percentage is higher than Batenhorst's. The question is, are we strong enough at Libero and DS to make Orzol best utilized as an OH? I liked Schumacher's promise in the AA game but unlike others, I am not counting on her to contribute as a freshman from what I saw. If Schumacher (or Chan, or Anderson (!)) is good enough to DS for Anna, then having both GG and Saige in the Libero jersey seems like a good option to me. (note - I would still rather have a player who does all the OH2 stuff and is terminal as well, e.g. Harper Murray, but we have enough other strengths to deal with the fact that we're not terminal in one or two positions) |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jan 10, 2024 19:44:07 GMT -5
I liked Schumacher's promise in the AA game but unlike others, I am not counting on her to contribute as a freshman from what I saw. To be clear, I merely have an hunch that Schumacher will play a bigger role than we think. She will be green, but she is also a Sheff type player and a possible floor leader. For sure I'm not depending on her to do so though. She is an X factor in my book. Also, we barely talk about Chan because we haven't seen her. |
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