honeybadger88
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Post by honeybadger88 on Apr 21, 2024 0:24:10 GMT -5
How would a double sub work...unless you're suggesting we sit one of Smrek or Robinson? Because I don't think we run a 6-2 this fall, one of Smrek, Robinson, Booth, or Crawford will sit. 3 of the 4 of those have shown the versatility to line up on the right side. So we sub out front row Fuebringer + whoever is currently in the back row (may be an Opp or may be a DS), send in Anderson + whichever of those 4 from the bench. Strong serve, strong block, three front row options in transition. It will be CC Crawford that will likely be sitting as she lacks the terminal hitting as a middle or right side to be effective in attack. She's a great defender though and does the little things well and has a good block but in blocking terms, Anna, Devyn and Carter are all just as good if not better on the block and are more terminal in attack and efficient especially Anna on OOS. Maybe CC can come in for a spell or two.
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honeybadger88
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Post by honeybadger88 on Apr 21, 2024 0:34:31 GMT -5
I don’t recall Devyn getting back row attacks. But she had something like a double double in kills and digs, plus 7 blocks. If we can incorporate her in a back row attack, all the better. Rainbowspouse commented that Anderson must be used to setting dwarves because her sets to the middle were quite low. I hope she can continue to improve those connections. But she was deceptive and crafty. I misssed setter dumps so much. And her serve is baller. She was a liability on the block, that’s gonna happen. I’m not worried about the serving. They’re trying to make improvements and become more aggressive, and there’s a period of time where you have to suck at something before you get good. It’s April. I want them to be fearless in April. Anderson was setting players who are 5'10" to 6'1" at Montana with the tallest being a 6'2" who didn't play in 2023. She would have to adjust in setting much higher than she usually does since our hitters can get up very high including one who can get as high as 11'2". I think Anderson and Charlie can adjust with more training and chemistry into setting much higher than they usually do.
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Post by savannahbadger on Apr 21, 2024 11:14:05 GMT -5
That’s cool they’re coaching, but that level of VB was unwatchable. Our women’s squad would sweep the men’s club team, with the men not scoring more than 25 points.
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honeybadger88
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Post by honeybadger88 on Apr 22, 2024 0:11:34 GMT -5
That’s cool they’re coaching, but that level of VB was unwatchable. Our women’s squad would sweep the men’s club team, with the men not scoring more than 25 points. They're still learning to be fair. Maybe with experience, they'll know what do in future to make that team competitive.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 22, 2024 0:27:30 GMT -5
That’s cool they’re coaching, but that level of VB was unwatchable. Our women’s squad would sweep the men’s club team, with the men not scoring more than 25 points. LOL
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Post by tablealgebra on Apr 22, 2024 0:53:20 GMT -5
I find this setter discussion all so amusing. Have any of you watched any Montana matches? This was a losing team all the time Anderson was there. Have you watched any of last night’s tape? This is comparing gold to lead. Sorry I am a Nebraska fan… I (and every coach in the B1G) urge Wisconsin to operate their offense using a 6-2. . . Or better yet, just play Anderson and let Fuerbringer watch this year. All kidding aside, Fuerbringer is an elite talent-and has been for four years… Fuerbringer will be the clear starter in a 5-1 within ten minutes of her first Wisconsin practice… Should be good…. 🏐 The discussion of a 6-2 has NOTHING to do with Fuerbringer's abilities, or Anderson's abilities. It has to do with finding a way to keep Devyn and Smrek and Booth and CC Crawford all on the floor. I disagree. If Fuerbringer is clearly better than Anderson, then one of those four are going to sit no matter how talented they are. The discussion is completely based on the hypothetical that Fuerbringer - coming in with less than a summer with the team - ends up not connecting with the hitters and/or playing to her potential. The best case is clearly that Fuerbringer beats out Anderson (who is now a known commodity) decisively and we end up in a 5-1.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Apr 22, 2024 1:10:45 GMT -5
That’s cool they’re coaching, but that level of VB was unwatchable. Our women’s squad would sweep the men’s club team, with the men not scoring more than 25 points.
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Post by trojansc on Apr 22, 2024 1:10:49 GMT -5
That’s cool they’re coaching, but that level of VB was unwatchable. Our women’s squad would sweep the men’s club team, with the men not scoring more than 25 points. You can’t be serious….
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Post by robtearle on Apr 22, 2024 7:41:03 GMT -5
The discussion of a 6-2 has NOTHING to do with Fuerbringer's abilities, or Anderson's abilities. It has to do with finding a way to keep Devyn and Smrek and Booth and CC Crawford all on the floor. I disagree. If Fuerbringer is clearly better than Anderson, then one of those four are going to sit no matter how talented they are. The discussion is completely based on the hypothetical that Fuerbringer - coming in with less than a summer with the team - ends up not connecting with the hitters and/or playing to her potential. The best case is clearly that Fuerbringer beats out Anderson (who is now a known commodity) decisively and we end up in a 5-1. If we didn't have the four quality middles-opposites, there would be no discussion of a 6-2.
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Post by SportyBucky on Apr 22, 2024 8:47:01 GMT -5
That’s cool they’re coaching, but that level of VB was unwatchable. Our women’s squad would sweep the men’s club team, with the men not scoring more than 25 points. They're still learning to be fair. Maybe with experience, they'll know what do in future to make that team competitive. They're still learning? They've all played club and HS ball. 🙄
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Post by SportyBucky on Apr 22, 2024 8:47:48 GMT -5
That’s cool they’re coaching, but that level of VB was unwatchable. Our women’s squad would sweep the men’s club team, with the men not scoring more than 25 points. 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by badgerbreath on Apr 22, 2024 9:35:19 GMT -5
Having 4 established quality middle/RS attackers is a necessary condition of running a 6-2, but it is by no means a sufficient condition. There are a lot of other variables contributing to the decision - the relative experience and play of the setters, their prospects for improvement long term, the situations at outside and in the backrow, if Robinson can develop a BR attack, the block...
Re the setters' effect on a decision about using a 6-2, the only real issue is whether a 5th year NCAA setter who is undersized on the block can match a top 5 incoming freshman in decision making, consistency of location and leadership at this level. They not only have to be of similar skill/ability, but they must also set a similar ball so that variation in the connection with hitters doesn't disturb the offense too much from what it would be if there were one setter. I can see them being relatively even at first in terms of execution, simply because Fuerbringer will be so new to this level of play and only weeks into being in the program.
In the end, the thing that will decide is which system gets the team playing better at the end of the end of the season given the talent at hand. Long term the answer is obviously Charlie (though I do think it depends on transfers in), and I'm guessing Sheff will adopt a 5-1 system they foresee using at the end of the year.
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Post by uwspiker on Apr 22, 2024 9:55:34 GMT -5
That’s cool they’re coaching, but that level of VB was unwatchable. Our women’s squad would sweep the men’s club team, with the men not scoring more than 25 points. Savannah - I beg to disagree. I was in KC this weekend to watch my daughter play. UW-Madison (lost in final to Loyola) was defending champion. Many of these players would be D1 level men's players if the opportunities existed. Even at the D2 level (mostly DIII schools) some of the teams like UW La Crosse and UW Eau Claire have have players with DI potential. As for beating a top NCAA women's squad, it would be closer than you think. The athleticism, speed and jumping ability blow away anything the women can show. Currently, there are no women who can play as above the net as many of these male club players. I am sorry to say that even the D2 champion, UW Eau Claire, would most likely win against a top NCAA women's team. BTW - let's not even bring up blocking.
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Post by northwoods on Apr 22, 2024 10:14:18 GMT -5
Yeah, I love my Badgers but the men’s club team kills them… You don’t have to go far back to when men practice players would play in Red v White scrimmages. The athleticism wasn’t close. They had to have them dial back attacking in practice to avoid broken fingers & wrists. The men’s net is 7” higher for a reason.
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Post by pull3 on Apr 22, 2024 11:54:26 GMT -5
About line-up You can either piss CC off or piss Fuerbringer off. Pick one. /shrug
Disclaimer: I like CC I think she's the cutest gal on the team. That said, go Fuerbringer.
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