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Post by badgerguru on Jun 14, 2024 9:05:53 GMT -5
Confirmed at recent Wisconsin Camps:
Lynney Tarnow 6-5 MB (no. 6)
Layli Ostovar 5-11 OH (no. 9)
Gabby DiVita 6-1 OH (no. 10)
Brooke Harwood 6-4 MB (no. 23)
Ella Andrews 6-4 MB (no. 25)
Kendall Northern 6-1 MB (no. 26)
Haley Burgdorf 6-0 OH (no. 40)
Sheffield visited a practice of Ayanna Watson 6-4 OH (no. 12)
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Jun 14, 2024 9:47:59 GMT -5
Wow. Great coverage. We're lucky to have it, as always. 👍🏿 |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 14, 2024 10:32:38 GMT -5
2026 recruiting: My current read is that we will have somewhere between 3 and 6 scholarships available for 2026. By my math we’ll need 2-3 pins, 1-2 middles, and possibly a setter. Sheff likes his utility players, so I could see him bringing in 2 OH and a MB/RS, or an OH, an MB, and a S/RS, or something like that. We’ll want to prioritize pin hitters and middles. IDK whether we’ll take a setter, IMO it will depend on where Horner is at. I don’t think we need to use scholarships on any DSs. Taking a “Rainbow was right” moment. From the overview of June 15 strategy - badgerextra.com/sports/volleyball/recruiting/wisconsin-volleyball-recruiting-2026-outside-hitters-middle-blockers/article_0b2e50ae-28e0-11ef-80b7-8fd44f81b680.htmlSheffield is looking to put together a class of four or five players, all front row attackers. He could see getting two outside hitters, two middle blockers and a right side.
“We’ve got pretty good depth in our back court and the setting position, so we’re targeting front row players,” he said. “We didn’t spend a lot of time on setting or (liberos) in that class, with what we’ll have here at the time.” |
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Post by 25or624 on Jun 14, 2024 10:43:01 GMT -5
Very interesting in light of The Badgers' relatively recent portal adventures:
“I would just say that if somebody is going somewhere because of the money, they’re not going to be a fit for our program,” Sheffield said. “But I would say that when you go to a program that has a pretty large fan base and a passionate following, the opportunities for NIL are a lot higher than for programs that don’t have much of a following.
“We have not entered a pay-for-play type of deal here with our program. What schools are and will there be more of that going in, I think we’ll find out in a couple weeks?"
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Post by skolgophers on Jun 14, 2024 11:13:39 GMT -5
Very interesting in light of The Badgers' relatively recent portal adventures:
“I would just say that if somebody is going somewhere because of the money, they’re not going to be a fit for our program,” Sheffield said. “But I would say that when you go to a program that has a pretty large fan base and a passionate following, the opportunities for NIL are a lot higher than for programs that don’t have much of a following.
“We have not entered a pay-for-play type of deal here with our program. What schools are and will there be more of that going in, I think we’ll find out in a couple weeks?"
I don’t think this would apply to MN/Acevedo, as I’m pretty sure MNs NIL money is probably less than that of WIs. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 14, 2024 11:16:52 GMT -5
I'm not sure that NIL has anything to do with any recent WI transfer stuff.
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Post by 25or624 on Jun 14, 2024 11:28:31 GMT -5
Very interesting in light of The Badgers' relatively recent portal adventures:
“I would just say that if somebody is going somewhere because of the money, they’re not going to be a fit for our program,” Sheffield said. “But I would say that when you go to a program that has a pretty large fan base and a passionate following, the opportunities for NIL are a lot higher than for programs that don’t have much of a following.
“We have not entered a pay-for-play type of deal here with our program. What schools are and will there be more of that going in, I think we’ll find out in a couple weeks?"
I don’t think this would apply to MN/Acevedo, as I’m pretty sure MNs NIL money is probably less than that of WIs. I'm sure you're right about Acevedo. I don't know if The Badgers offered a scholarship to her, but she was really clear about her choice in the interview I watched, i.e., she was all in on KC's Pillars of The Program and Minnesota has what she is looking for.
The Landfair move to Nebraska drew a lot of scrutiny in this context, but as usual around here, there was more smoke than fire.
I should also add that I was thinking more about "pay-for-play" than NIL, as in "going somewhere because of the money".
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Post by slxpress on Jun 14, 2024 11:29:12 GMT -5
I'm not sure that NIL has anything to do with any recent WI transfer stuff. I feel like if a top notch program loses on a portal recruitment to either Texas or Nebraska, there’s always a chance NIL was a contributing factor. Heck, I feel like it can be a contributing factor coming out of high school. When I read those quotes, to me the name that popped into my head wasn’t Acevedo. It was Landfair. |
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jun 14, 2024 11:31:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure that NIL has anything to do with any recent WI transfer stuff. I feel like if a top notch program loses on a portal recruitment to either Texas or Nebraska, there’s always a chance NIL was a contributing factor. Heck, I feel like it can be a contributing factor coming out of high school. When I read those quotes, to me the name that popped into my head wasn’t Acevedo. It was Landfair. But Nebraska has a larger following than does Wisconsin. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 14, 2024 11:38:35 GMT -5
I'm not sure that NIL has anything to do with any recent WI transfer stuff. I feel like if a top notch program loses on a portal recruitment to either Texas or Nebraska, there’s always a chance NIL was a contributing factor. Heck, I feel like it can be a contributing factor coming out of high school. When I read those quotes, to me the name that popped into my head wasn’t Acevedo. It was Landfair. It might be contributing in that case, but I'm also told there were lots of contributing factors that were not related to NIL. So what tipped the balance? I don't know. |
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Post by slxpress on Jun 14, 2024 11:41:10 GMT -5
I feel like if a top notch program loses on a portal recruitment to either Texas or Nebraska, there’s always a chance NIL was a contributing factor. Heck, I feel like it can be a contributing factor coming out of high school. When I read those quotes, to me the name that popped into my head wasn’t Acevedo. It was Landfair. But Nebraska has a larger following than does Wisconsin. They sure do. I’d say Wisconsin is a clear second though. I’m not quite sure of your point, though. To me he’s saying if we’re outbid, it probably wasn’t a good fit in any case. However, for young ladies who are interested in NIL opportunities, we have them right here at Wisconsin. I think he’s plenty smart to understand NIL is important, so he wants to make it clear he’s supportive of it and Wisconsin has more than their fair share of opportunities. But he’s not interested in bidding wars. That’s how I read it. |
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Post by slxpress on Jun 14, 2024 11:49:23 GMT -5
I feel like if a top notch program loses on a portal recruitment to either Texas or Nebraska, there’s always a chance NIL was a contributing factor. Heck, I feel like it can be a contributing factor coming out of high school. When I read those quotes, to me the name that popped into my head wasn’t Acevedo. It was Landfair. It might be contributing in that case, but I'm also told there were lots of contributing factors that were not related to NIL. So what tipped the balance? I don't know. In many cases I’m aware of, the player isn’t necessarily fully cognizant of the reason they made the decision they did. But if you’re the sales guy who came in 2nd in closing a deal, you have to chalk it up to something. I cannot tell you the amount of times I chalked it up to something outside my control, and consoled myself with why I didn’t really want them as a client anyway. It’s a pretty natural thing to do. The bottom line for me is that Wisconsin has a really good thing going. I think Sheffield would like to beat out Nebraska and/or Texas for more mutual recruiting targets, but hey, join the club. If he wants to insinuate that possibly some of those decisions aren’t going his way because of NIL, I don’t have a huge problem with that. It’s not like he put anyone on blast. I feel like he made it anonymous enough we’re led to draw our own conclusions. Which is how it should be, IMO. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 14, 2024 12:18:31 GMT -5
It might be contributing in that case, but I'm also told there were lots of contributing factors that were not related to NIL. So what tipped the balance? I don't know. If he wants to insinuate that possibly some of those decisions aren’t going his way because of NIL, I don’t have a huge problem with that. It’s not like he put anyone on blast. I feel like he made it anonymous enough we’re led to draw our own conclusions. Which is how it should be, IMO. I guess I don't think that he was insinuating anything of the sort. He was addressing the link between NIL and recruiting, probably in response to Punzel's question. He's just stating the principles that he has consistently espoused ever since NIL became a thing: players for whom NIL is the primary concern are probably not a good fit, he doesn't sell the program using NIL, but he doesn't avoid the topic if it comes up, and UW is actively developing NIL opportunities on a case by case basis. He actually has said he considers NIL an important part of the athletes' education. The original poster was linking those comments to specific transfers, but I don't think they were linked at all since he has said those things many times. I guess he would have not have gone after Landfair or Acevedo if their main priority was NIL. That's not to say NIL didn't make a difference to Landfair's final decision, but there were also substantial technical academic issues from UWs side, at least so I'm told. |
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jun 14, 2024 12:28:35 GMT -5
But Nebraska has a larger following than does Wisconsin. They sure do. I’d say Wisconsin is a clear second though. I’m not quite sure of your point, though. To me he’s saying if we’re outbid, it probably wasn’t a good fit in any case. However, for young ladies who are interested in NIL opportunities, we have them right here at Wisconsin. I think he’s plenty smart to understand NIL is important, so he wants to make it clear he’s supportive of it and Wisconsin has more than their fair share of opportunities. But he’s not interested in bidding wars. That’s how I read it. My point is Sheffield likely wasn’t alluding to Landfair, because he said, “the opportunities for NIL are a lot higher [at Wisconsin] than for programs that don’t have much of a following.” Landfair chose Nebraska over Wisconsin and Nebraska has an even larger following, so he couldn’t have been referring to Landfair. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jun 14, 2024 12:29:28 GMT -5
AFAIK, we (Varsity Collective / VC Connect) do not have the ability to guarantee five- or six-figure stipends or luxury apartments/cars or anything of the sort, and those are things that other schools that are clearly beating us at NIL routinely offer all their VB athletes. Wisconsin is behind on NIL, and it will come back to bite us.
That being said, I'm sure there were subtle or unconscious fit concerns for our transfer prospects that went elsewhere - sometimes, for reasons you can't explain, the vibe of a place just feels right, like Harry Potter grabbing his wand for the first time. When that happens, you just have to role with it. I felt that way at my first campus visit to the college where I attended undergrad - I just knew it was the one.
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