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Post by swaggyp on Dec 16, 2023 18:49:39 GMT -5
We're living through the aftermath of that; more balance please. It’s ironic that the direction of this team now is largely based on the aftermath of getting beaten down by Stanford in 2019. Kelly wanted to be able to terminate more OOS, and he have that now, but we might have stood a much better chance against Texas had we fielded the 2019 back row (“O-line”) in the FF to dig and pass much better. Texas was clearly digging up just about everything we hit over, and so goes the old adage… “defense wins championships.” I agree with this, I think the Stanford match was a seminal moment for him. Not that he necessarily changed his core ideas or anything but I think he stopped trying to recreate the "ball doesn't hit the floor" team of 2013 and started trying to build the volleyball equivalent of bullyball. I suppose a lot of Badger fans are thinking maybe he bet wrong after Thursday night, but idk, I think he's had a pretty good run since 2019. I love it when I see Julia being taller than 5 of the 6 players across the net.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 16, 2023 18:49:52 GMT -5
The thing about finding a backup setter is that the best candidate is someone who has started at setter in the past for multiple years, but has an awesome freshman coming in behind her and was set to lose her starting spot. Ideally she'd be at least 6 feet tall because she'll be running a 5-1 and will need to be able to contribute to the block. Bonus points if she's a culture fit, but I guess the only way you would know that is if she already had relationships on the team. She'll probably be a one-and-done player, so if she had already graduated that would be kind of the best fit. And it's always nice to have someone from the midwest...maybe somewhere like Greenwood, Indiana. It would be cool if a player like that became available. MJ has said her college volleyball career is over. Ah. I figured there was another setter from Greenwood in the portal. I get it now.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 16, 2023 18:56:00 GMT -5
To carter booth, who said she wanted to leave the gophers to play for Wisconsin to experience a national championship: uh, no comment. Let’s not do this. Please. Yeah, because the Gophers made it so far. And jeez people, why does the post season immediately start with "who's going to transfer out"? You are being ridiculous. Why would someone go in the portal who played all season because "they might not" play the following season. Aren't these the most competitive athletes out there? They aren't going to think they are going to be benched, they are going to keep working hard. The people that have transferred out weren't playing or their time was reduced. For Booth, there was a coaching change.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 16, 2023 18:58:28 GMT -5
A Minnesota fan talking sh*t after losing in the 2nd round while Wisconsin lost in the F4 is wild. Nice job of missing the point. Which is? That she left for a team that was one match from the final, versus a team that barely made the tournament? PS I don't mind MN, so this is all directed to you, not the team or the other MN fans.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 16, 2023 18:59:47 GMT -5
It’s ironic that the direction of this team now is largely based on the aftermath of getting beaten down by Stanford in 2019. Kelly wanted to be able to terminate more OOS, and he have that now, but we might have stood a much better chance against Texas had we fielded the 2019 back row (“O-line”) in the FF to dig and pass much better. Texas was clearly digging up just about everything we hit over, and so goes the old adage… “defense wins championships.” I agree with this, I think the Stanford match was a seminal moment for him. Not that he necessarily changed his core ideas or anything but I think he stopped trying to recreate the "ball doesn't hit the floor" team of 2013 and started trying to build the volleyball equivalent of bullyball. I suppose a lot of Badger fans are thinking maybe he bet wrong after Thursday night, but idk, I think he's had a pretty good run since 2019. I love it when I see Julia being taller than 5 of the 6 players across the net. He's not wrong. The drive to improve OOS attacking helps the team be more resilient. You can't be solely focused on getting in system, but you still need a level of good passing and defensive play. Badgers are hitting better than almost anybody OOS, but they are still hitting well over 100 points better in system. GG has had some truly amazing matches this year, but the team just has not been deep so when she is off there hasn't been an obvious solution. At the very least we need somebody to come of the bench and provide a real lift when she is down. It would be nice if we didn't have to pass with two out of necessity.
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Post by nederlander on Dec 16, 2023 18:59:49 GMT -5
As a Texas fan, I was hoping it would be Skinner. But Franklin certainly deserves the honor. For most of the season she was the best player in the country. I really enjoyed watching her play this year.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 16, 2023 18:59:52 GMT -5
Oh come on, people. GG had a rough night last night, but she came in clutch so many other times this year; we wouldn’t have even been still playing last night without her. We don’t want anyone to leave. Exactly. Maybe next time wait 48 hours before going back to VT after a loss.
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 16, 2023 19:02:27 GMT -5
Anyone know the status of Wrobel’s injury? I really hope we can see her come out and just ball next year. She looks pretty good on the sidelines. I think she was injured early in the season and then they tried to see if they could hang on to a red shirt, which I think they did.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 16, 2023 19:04:06 GMT -5
As a Texas fan, I was hoping it would be Skinner. But Franklin certainly deserves the honor. For most of the season she was the best player in the country. I really enjoyed watching her play this year. It was really a toss up to me. I would have been fine with a co NPOY. But I think the committee tends to like an OH who is a primary passer.
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Post by maigrey on Dec 16, 2023 19:13:33 GMT -5
It’s ironic that the direction of this team now is largely based on the aftermath of getting beaten down by Stanford in 2019. Kelly wanted to be able to terminate more OOS, and he have that now, but we might have stood a much better chance against Texas had we fielded the 2019 back row (“O-line”) in the FF to dig and pass much better. Texas was clearly digging up just about everything we hit over, and so goes the old adage… “defense wins championships.” I think our 2024 back row of Orzul, GG, Schumacher, Damrow, and Chan will be good enough that we don’t need another back row player from the portal. I don't think we should assume that Oz will be in the back row full-time.
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Post by nederlander on Dec 16, 2023 19:14:07 GMT -5
As a Texas fan, I was hoping it would be Skinner. But Franklin certainly deserves the honor. For most of the season she was the best player in the country. I really enjoyed watching her play this year. It was really a toss up to me. I would have been fine with a co NPOY. But I think the committee tends to like an OH who is a primary passer. It definitely could have gone either way. I think Skinner might have won if Texas as a team hadn't stumbled more along the way. Second half of season Skinner was incredible.
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Post by maigrey on Dec 16, 2023 19:16:33 GMT -5
As a Texas fan, I was hoping it would be Skinner. But Franklin certainly deserves the honor. For most of the season she was the best player in the country. I really enjoyed watching her play this year. It was really a toss up to me. I would have been fine with a co NPOY. But I think the committee tends to like an OH who is a primary passer. I'm not being sarcastic, but with Skinner even really in the conversation before the tournament started? I could definitely be B1G biased...
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 16, 2023 19:57:03 GMT -5
Mark Stewart [Milwaukee Journal Sentinel] has an overview of the 2024 Badgers online this AM. He doesn't identify a source, but I'll assume this is based on more than an educated guess:
"Wrobel, a 6-foot-4 outside hitter, didn’t play this season but is expected to compete for playing time next season. The departure of Thomas-Ailara creates a void that will need to be filled." 1. If I'm not mistaken- that's he first "news" we've had about Wrobel's 2024 potential status, isn't it? Anyway- I suppose we'll see what happens. Unfortunately (for we fans), it will remain an "up in the air/who knows?" thing for many more months. 2. Re Landfair: One thing that seems to be overlooked here (though certainly not on the Minn threads) is the "fact" that Landfair, for her continued commitment to the Program, demanded that she be used as a 6-RO. She presumably wants the experience for her international-play future. Good for her. But I don't see Coach and Staff submitting to that demand. And- I don't see her subsequent poor serve-receive stats, and oft-panned defensive body of work, as contributing positively to next season's Team needs. 3. My guess is that we'll concentrate on back row/setter stuff. As everyone has noted- we've got the "firepower". That's my final answer. (Until next week, of course...) Interesting. I had heard she may never play. Guess we'll know in the Spring...
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 16, 2023 20:01:23 GMT -5
1. If I'm not mistaken- that's he first "news" we've had about Wrobel's 2024 potential status, isn't it? Anyway- I suppose we'll see what happens. Unfortunately (for we fans), it will remain an "up in the air/who knows?" thing for many more months. I think she's been dressed for the tournament matches. I interpreted that as her being ready to go if something terrible happened. Agreed. That's the way I took it. Which made the, "She may never be well enough to play" I heard not believeable.
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Post by savannahbadger on Dec 16, 2023 21:31:20 GMT -5
[If Orzol or Wrobel is OH2 next year, I will fear rotation 4 every time it comes up. I was fearing a whole bunch of shanks when Sarah was passing, like she did toward the end of 2022. I’m glad that fear turned out to be almost entirely unfounded.
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