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Post by tacojohn on Sept 20, 2024 21:11:56 GMT -5
I think it's a minority of voices who have been over worried about Carly. She did well in this match. Badgers can be way better. Not even close to touching their ceiling yet. She did pretty good for playing in front of 15,000 people as a replacement for the #2 recruit in the country. Lots of pressure there and she did her job. There were some misses of course but to be expected. Why is the 6-2 off the table? It's the same team as last year except for the two setters...which yes I recognize is a big deal. But the strength of the team is the front so why not go back to that? Why not go back to that for this year and then change to the 6-1 next year after Smrek, Franklin, Robinson and Crawford are gone? I'm honestly asking the question because I don't fully understand. Is it because Carly isn't good enough or don't want to make Charlie mad? Or is the general view with volleyball that a 6-1 is more preferable? Because the 6-1 ain't looking great right now. Or is the idea it should look great when people are more healthy?
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Post by tacojohn on Sept 20, 2024 21:13:24 GMT -5
I like it. Schumacher and Crawford can set decently enough. My off the cuff idea is to roll with no-setter when they are in a rut and need a boost. Bring in the big lineup and put the hammer down. Kind of like a hockey team that is playing like crap and the coach brings out the 4th line to get fiesty, start hitting guys and change the tone. Too many service errors? Bring out the big guns. Cant serve receive for crap? Time for the hammer. I started writing this post as a joke but am starting to like this idea 😀 Put CC, Booth & Smrek in the front row together and call them The Hanson Sisters! Keep old time Volleyball alive! YES! So awesome
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Post by robtearle on Sept 20, 2024 21:17:01 GMT -5
FWIW: Smrek had some sort of strap or bandage on her knee. Maybe a bandage over the incision site from the video (if that was indeed an incision site), or maybe a "patellar tendon strap".
(A strap will help keep the tendon "in place" and keep the patella gliding over the joint 'correctly', Otherwise the cartilage on the underside of the patella can become irritated, and the tendon sore.)
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Post by maigrey on Sept 20, 2024 21:43:09 GMT -5
I think it's a minority of voices who have been over worried about Carly. She did well in this match. Badgers can be way better. Not even close to touching their ceiling yet. She did pretty good for playing in front of 15,000 people as a replacement for the #2 recruit in the country. Lots of pressure there and she did her job. There were some misses of course but to be expected. Why is the 6-2 off the table? It's the same team as last year except for the two setters...which yes I recognize is a big deal. But the strength of the team is the front so why not go back to that? Why not go back to that for this year and then change to the 6-1 next year after Smrek, Franklin, Robinson and Crawford are gone? I'm honestly asking the question because I don't fully understand. Is it because Carly isn't good enough or don't want to make Charlie mad? Or is the general view with volleyball that a 6-1 is more preferable? Because the 6-1 ain't looking great right now. Or is the idea it should look great when people are more healthy? If you mean a 5-1 instead of a 6-1. In any case you have a lot more options and consistency with a 5-1 then you do with a 6-2. I don't think there's been a 6-2 offense that has one a national championship. I think Wisconsin got the farthest with the final four, but it does have its limitations.
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 20, 2024 21:54:31 GMT -5
She did pretty good for playing in front of 15,000 people as a replacement for the #2 recruit in the country. Lots of pressure there and she did her job. There were some misses of course but to be expected. Why is the 6-2 off the table? It's the same team as last year except for the two setters...which yes I recognize is a big deal. But the strength of the team is the front so why not go back to that? Why not go back to that for this year and then change to the 6-1 next year after Smrek, Franklin, Robinson and Crawford are gone? I'm honestly asking the question because I don't fully understand. Is it because Carly isn't good enough or don't want to make Charlie mad? Or is the general view with volleyball that a 6-1 is more preferable? Because the 6-1 ain't looking great right now. Or is the idea it should look great when people are more healthy? If you mean a 5-1 instead of a 6-1. In any case you have a lot more options and consistency with a 5-1 then you do with a 6-2. I don't think there's been a 6-2 offense that has one a national championship. I think Wisconsin got the farthest with the final four, but it does have its limitations. 2002-03 USC ran a 6-2. They were a buzz saw. 1 loss in 2 years, 16-14 in the fifth to Stanford at home in 2002. Just loaded with talent.
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 20, 2024 22:05:43 GMT -5
Why is the 6-2 off the table? The 6-2 worked because the styles of setting between Izzy & MJ were pretty similar. Sheffield has specifically stated that the 6-2 really wouldn't work because of how different Charlie & Carly set their balls. I thought that came up in the recent podcast episode with coach & Carlini, and that his answer was pretty much a "not likely" on the 6-2.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 20, 2024 22:45:22 GMT -5
Troy match
Points scored during the serve of server:
Orzol: 4 points scored, 5 times serve lost GG: 14 points scored, 5 times serve lost Franklin: 10 points scored, 5 times serve lost CC: 6 points scored, 6 times serve lost Schumacher: 1 point scored, 3 times serve lost Charlie: 2 points scored, 6 times serve lost Devyn: 0 points scored, 2 times serve lost Smrek: 1 point scored, 1 time serve lost Damrow: 1 point scored, 1 time serve lost
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Sideout percents by server for the year (lower number the better)
Charlie: 0.600 Orzol: 0.545 GG: 0.444 Franklin: 0.585 Schumacher: 0.634 CC: 0.617 Devyn: 0.673 Smrek: 0.714 Chan: 0.429 Carly: 0.529 Van Wie: 0500 Damrow: 0500
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 20, 2024 22:58:30 GMT -5
Troy match Points scored during the serve of server: Orzol: 4 points scored, 5 times serve lost GG: 14 points scored, 5 times serve lost Franklin: 10 points scored, 5 times serve lost CC: 6 points scored, 6 times serve lost Schumacher: 1 point scored, 3 times serve lost Charlie: 2 points scored, 6 times serve lost Devyn: 0 points scored, 2 times serve lost Smrek: 1 point scored, 1 time serve lost Damrow: 1 point scored, 1 time serve lost ----------- Sideout percents by server for the year (lower number the better) Charlie: 0.600 Orzol: 0.545 GG: 0.444 Franklin: 0.585 Schumacher: 0.634 CC: 0.617 Devyn: 0.673 Smrek: 0.714 Chan: 0.429 Carly: 0.529 Van Wie: 0500 Damrow: 0500 Thanks so much all your work in doing this, before and now!
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Post by spicycheesebread on Sept 20, 2024 23:19:39 GMT -5
I think it's a minority of voices who have been over worried about Carly. She did well in this match. Badgers can be way better. Not even close to touching their ceiling yet. Why is the 6-2 off the table? I'm honestly asking the question because I don't fully understand. Is it because Carly isn't good enough or don't want to make Charlie mad? Or is the general view with volleyball that a 6-1 is more preferable? Because the 6-1 ain't looking great right now. Or is the idea it should look great when people are more healthy? Quick summation borrowed from this VT thread: 6-2 pros: + More front row attackers 6-2 cons: - Differences in setting style/location/ability - No right side backrow attack (not really an issue, few teams outside of Baylor and PSU use this) - Run out of subs quicker The OH and Middles have to adjust/build chemistry with two setters. Not an easy feat. A big reason Dane Rettke was so successful is because she had five years to be fluid with one setter. The chemistry between Hilley-Rettke was spectacular by the end. Charlie is a long-term investment. There's no coincidence her father is coaching LOVB Madison and Carlini joined the staff. This program is focused on helping Charlie develop into an all-around elite, national team-caliber setter. That requires Charlie develop her blocking. Having her sit out three rotations every set takes away significantly from her playing time and growth. With the way this league's parity and NIL is shaping, we'll see even less of the 6-2 than we did before. Far more sets going extra points and coaches afraid of exhausting their subs. Historical data doesn't lie -- very few teams have won a championship with the 6-2 (zero since USC in 2003), and the ones that did happened to have two elite setters. NIL era makes if even tougher to have two elite setters sharing the rotations.
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