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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 5, 2021 11:56:28 GMT -5
Okay I consider myself to be relatively new to VT so this may have been covered before (maybe ad nauseam) BUT I was wondering why so much disdain for the 6-2 keeps popping up. Personally I like having three attackers in the front row continually and having a typically bigger block to go against opposing team's OH.
What, if anything, makes a 5-1 a preferred offense?
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Post by ltdks01 on May 5, 2021 11:59:49 GMT -5
Okay I consider myself to be relatively new to VT so this may have been covered before (maybe ad nauseam) BUT I was wondering why so much disdain for the 6-2 keeps popping up. Personally I like having three attackers in the front row continually and having a typically bigger block to go against opposing team's OH. What, if anything, makes a 5-1 a preferred offense? its often quite hard for 6-2 to get their offense established really consistently if your two setters can’t deliver the same ball regularly |
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Post by Kingsley on May 5, 2021 12:00:16 GMT -5
Cathy George
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 5, 2021 12:06:09 GMT -5
Boy George! Are we naming Georges?  |
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Post by n00b on May 5, 2021 12:06:58 GMT -5
You need two six-rotation OHs, because you run out of subs quickly if you’re subbing both setters and a DS.
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Post by n00b on May 5, 2021 12:09:03 GMT -5
Also, if a 6-2 is always your system, you probably won’t be able to recruit nearly as good of setters as you would be if you run a 5-1.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 5, 2021 12:09:47 GMT -5
Okay I consider myself to be relatively new to VT so this may have been covered before (maybe ad nauseam) BUT I was wondering why so much disdain for the 6-2 keeps popping up. Personally I like having three attackers in the front row continually and having a typically bigger block to go against opposing team's OH. What, if anything, makes a 5-1 a preferred offense? its often quite hard for 6-2 to get their offense established really consistently if your two setters can’t deliver the same ball regularly I assume you mean that the 5-1 setter has more time to get into a groove? Not sure if a good setter isn't able to put the ball where it needs to be from the get go. |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 5, 2021 12:10:31 GMT -5
You need two six-rotation OHs, because you run out of subs quickly if you’re subbing both setters and a DS. Are there less subs in college than in Club? |
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Post by n00b on May 5, 2021 12:13:51 GMT -5
You need two six-rotation OHs, because you run out of subs quickly if you’re subbing both setters and a DS. Are there less subs in college than in Club? There are more (15 in college), but teams are better, so sideout percentages are higher, so you get through more rotations in a set. |
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Post by Kingsley on May 5, 2021 12:21:18 GMT -5
To be fair to our beloved 6-2, some of the gripes about the 6-2 are less about the system itself and more about not having the appropriate personnel to run the 6-2 efficiently.
Recruiting two quality setters to run a 6-2 is hard. Putting two terminal opposites on the floor is not a layup, either.
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Post by mikegarrison on May 5, 2021 12:22:57 GMT -5
its often quite hard for 6-2 to get their offense established really consistently if your two setters can’t deliver the same ball regularly I assume you mean that the 5-1 setter has more time to get into a groove? Not sure if a good setter isn't able to put the ball where it needs to be from the get go. I believe the issue is more about the hitters. They have to adjust to one setter, and then the other setter, and then the first setter, etc. If your setters set very similar balls, then this is not a problem. But if they don't, it can be a problem. |
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Post by BuckysHeat on May 5, 2021 12:27:23 GMT -5
6-2 pros:
Always have 3 front row hitters and blockers
6-2 cons:
Differences in setting style/location/ability
No right side backrow attack (outside of Baylor and PSU in NCAA, not really an issue often)
Run out of subs quicker
5-1 pros:
One setter for all hitters, better consistency
3 rotations you have a right side backrow option (provided you are not using a DS for your RS)
Not as many subs used, more flexibility for coaches
5-1 cons:
No true RS attack from the front row for 3 rotations
May have a smaller block on RS (but not all times)
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 5, 2021 12:39:23 GMT -5
6-2 pros: Always have 3 front row hitters and blockers 6-2 cons: Differences in setting style/location/ability No ride side backrow attack (outside of Baylor and PSU in NCAA, not really an issue often) Run out of subs quicker 5-1 pros: One setter for all hitters, better consistency 3 rotations you have a right side backrow option (provided you are not using a DS for your RS) Not as many subs used, more flexibility for coaches 5-1 cons: No true RS attack from the front row for 3 rotations May have a smaller block on RS (but not all times) Thanks for the summation! |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 5, 2021 12:47:22 GMT -5
I assume you mean that the 5-1 setter has more time to get into a groove? Not sure if a good setter isn't able to put the ball where it needs to be from the get go. I believe the issue is more about the hitters. They have to adjust to one setter, and then the other setter, and then the first setter, etc. If your setters set very similar balls, then this is not a problem. But if they don't, it can be a problem. My DD's an RS and only gets ONE setter so I didn't really key in on this. Is the onus on the setters or on the hitters to adjust. I figure in reality it's both but I still put that mostly on the setter. |
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Post by silverchloride on May 5, 2021 12:51:34 GMT -5
When my DDs team run a 6-2, they usually switch the Setter and RS. Is that typically what happens?
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