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Post by nakedcrayon on May 5, 2021 21:34:59 GMT -5
I love a 6-2 at the beginning of the season in club...opportunity for them to show the parents who actually watch who is the better setter and RS and also it gives me the ability to allow girls playing time in the actual season when we are way above or way below our opponents level
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Post by pogoball on May 6, 2021 0:07:24 GMT -5
A 6-2 brings to mind the football saying "If you have 2 quarterbacks, you have none".
Not all setters are the same. If one is better -- and one always is -- then your team is significantly better with that one setting.
Blocking is not as important as the consistent quality of the set. Look at national team setters over the last 20 years, you will see many who were considered small by even college standards. Some even small by high school standards.
Extra blockers or attackers just pale in significance to having a quality setter. Personally, I've also found that the threat of a setter attack makes the offense work better than having a third attacker. Most blockers can't commit to that second ball and effectively block the third.
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Post by ay2013 on May 6, 2021 2:33:59 GMT -5
One giant Con of running a 6-2 that no one has mentioned is how much it handicaps your middle blockers when attacking. Some middles are elite off of one foot behind the setter. Unless you are running a ton of crossing patterns with the MB and the RS, that middle cant go behind and spread the offense. If that middle has professional aspirations, this can set them back years. I'm not sure why these professional teams even NEED to run a slide. 6 rotation scoring opposites already spread the offense. The men don't bother.
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Post by Disc808 on May 6, 2021 2:45:29 GMT -5
One giant Con of running a 6-2 that no one has mentioned is how much it handicaps your middle blockers when attacking. Some middles are elite off of one foot behind the setter. Unless you are running a ton of crossing patterns with the MB and the RS, that middle cant go behind and spread the offense. If that middle has professional aspirations, this can set them back years. I'm not sure why these professional teams even NEED to run a slide. 6 rotation scoring opposites already spread the offense. The men don't bother. Maybe because a good slide attack can be more effective than a D ball? The men can probably close the block on a slide quicker
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Post by volleyballer8992 on May 6, 2021 8:11:53 GMT -5
I believe the issue is more about the hitters. They have to adjust to one setter, and then the other setter, and then the first setter, etc. If your setters set very similar balls, then this is not a problem. But if they don't, it can be a problem. My DD's an RS and only gets ONE setter so I didn't really key in on this. Is the onus on the setters or on the hitters to adjust. I figure in reality it's both but I still put that mostly on the setter. Hitters will always have some bit of adjustment, no setter can deliver a ball 100% of the time perfectly. Tempo is something that comes in to play here and that falls more on the setter and the ability of the setter. Most teams like their offenses to run on a certain tempo, and it's at the discretion of whether a setter can keep the offense in tempo (in system) as the 1st touch becomes less accurate.
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Post by crando on May 9, 2021 23:37:39 GMT -5
Lots of good points. On the championships thing, USC won back-to-back ('02 & '03??) with a 6-2, and the Sharpley-Wendell duo at Stanford was excellent in the mid-90s.
But, it's hard to win a championship without one of the 5 best setters in the country. And if you have one of the 5 best setters in the country, why would you want to have her NOT set half the time; conversely, does anyone ever have TWO of the 5 best setters in the country?
Also at the highest level, good back-row attacking (RS hitting Ds or OH hitting pipes) can give you the 3-hitter effect, without forcing hitters to switch back and forth from one setter's tempo/style to someone else's. The harder someone can hit the ball, and the more someone can jump forward into a set to hit it a little closer to the net, the more a back-row attack is almost as effective as a front-row attach. Also, setters are often groomed to be leaders; you'd rather not take your best leader off the court half the time.
At not-top-10/20-ish D-I, at HS and club, it's hard to get someone who can set, is quick, and isn't a blocking liability, so 6-2s are more common. People who can set great, and block the other team's best hitter, are rare. So a decent number of 6-2s are "I'll give up a little setting quality to have much a better block"; some RS players are more of just blockers, because with 6 hitters you can get away with not setting 1 (or 2) of them very much.
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