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Post by BadgerAce42 on Dec 19, 2023 22:20:19 GMT -5
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Dec 19, 2023 22:31:32 GMT -5
We’ve heard so much about Charlie’s decision making and VB IQ. I am an MJ and Izzy Stan, but I’m stoked to see our returning hitters with Fire-bringer (Dev, please come back). The connections might take a hot minute to sort thru since she’s coming in June, but there were too many times the Badgers were predictable this year, with outsides getting trapped (we’re just lucky Tank is a baller). Let’s get it, Charlie!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2023 22:34:24 GMT -5
Really excited to see this one ball out badger style
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 19, 2023 22:35:30 GMT -5
Which recruits did they start with in '22 & '23 and fill in with transfers? '22 maybe? They had 2 and maybe knew 1 had back problems. '23 they had 1 recruit. You can't fill in around recruits if you don't have any recruits to fill in around. At that point, you're hoping the portal grants you a future NPOY and an All-American middle blocker and another middle blocker who is key to your team. What happens these last 2 years if the portal hadn't produced those players but 2nd tier or lower talent instead. What's this last season look like without Franklin, Booth, and Crawford? Are they a top 16 tourney team? Do they make it to the Elite 8 and beyond? Sheffield, Dildine, and White bet on the portal. What if they'd have lost that bet? Which is certainly a possibility. Now I think you are being intentionally obtuse but I'll explain this one more time. The '22 and '23 classes were to build around Ashburn, Robinson, Hammill, Smrek and Orzol. Smrek and Robinson were middles, they liked them on the right, so they go new middles to allow them to play RS - no uncommitted senior could have allowed them to make that move. They were able to upgrade to Franklin and then TTA was an opportunity in I think someone said February of this year - there's no unsigned senior this spring who was going to be an upgrade from Orzol. Barnes graduated so they were able to plan to bring in a very talented freshman in GG and arguably she was the weakest of the group, so imagine if they went after freshman for all of these positions? Even freshman recruited 2+ years out is a risk (see Jardine and Wrobel). This team was a legit contender for another national championship. It was great work by the staff. The hard part is what comes next, but they are off to a strong start. I'm not being intentionally obtuse. Thanks for the conversation.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 19, 2023 23:50:05 GMT -5
I have watched this young lady play for the national team. I thought she was the best setter and maybe the best player. This does not surprise me.
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Post by bballnut90 on Dec 19, 2023 23:50:50 GMT -5
First and foremost, I want to say I am SO glad this team is going back to a 5-1. I loved Ashburn/Hammill but historically speaking, 6-2s just don't win titles.
Going into next year, I'm hoping that the Badgers keep Robinson/Orzol out of the portal. If Fuerbringer is as good as advertised, I think we have huge potential with a lineup of: S-Fuerbringer MB-Booth MB-Robinson RS-Smrek OH-Franklin OH-portal pickup or Shadd-Ceres L-Orzol DS-Damrow DS-GG
We are elite at all hitter positions aside from L2 with this lineup, and depending on what the portal brings, we could be elite at all positions. Crawford is the woman out, but ultimately I think we need more offense from MB and Booth/Robinson are better options despite CC's great blocking.
I think the biggest concern going into next season is passing. Wisconsin was fine but not an elite passing team a year ago. Madi Skinner did a number on us, but Texas also obliterated Nebraska's passers who typically pass at very high clips. Not discrediting Texas, but I think the semis and finals were flukey by all 3 teams, Texas served the best they ever have it completely broke Wisconsin/Nebraska in an unexpected way. I don't expect we'll see a display like that again next year in the tournament.
I like keeping Orzol at libero since she's a solid passer and defender. GG is a spark plug DS and I thought she largely passed well in a DS role compared to being a libero last year. Her backcourt chemistry with Orzol was also noticeable, as GG thrives playing left back defense and Orzol is strong in middle back. I'm not ready to throw the towel in on her yet, I thought she made big strides this past year even if she struggled in serve receive against Texas. She also brings great energy to the court. I'm not sure how Damrow fits in, but being a top 10 recruit as a libero means she hopefully sees the court and makes an impact. If we can keep this as our DS/libero unit, I'm very happy with it.
If we don't find a great fit for the second outside via the portal, I also like Orzol filling that role. She isn't the heaviest arm but she's a good passer and has proven to be a solid option. She's a great all around player and is just someone you want on the court. To be honest I'd rather have her out there at L2 than Landfair or a player like Thomas-Ailara. We have heavy hitters and one of the best outlets in the country in Franklin who you can rely on to get the job done on any given play. We don't need a ton of offense from Orzol if she's L2. The downside is that we'll need to find a different libero, and that means either Damrow gets the job done or GG needs to really improve her passing and mental work. I still like her more as a DS where she doesn't have the same level of responsibility.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 19, 2023 23:52:45 GMT -5
We’ve heard so much about Charlie’s decision making and VB IQ. I am an MJ and Izzy Stan, but I’m stoked to see our returning hitters with Fire-bringer (Dev, please come back). The connections might take a hot minute to sort thru since she’s coming in June, but there were too many times the Badgers were predictable this year, with outsides getting trapped (we’re just lucky Tank is a baller). Let’s get it, Charlie! I absolutely love Izzy and MJ. They made huge strides this year. I wish they had an award for two headed setters. Charlie is just different to almost anybody, though.
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 19, 2023 23:59:05 GMT -5
The downside is that we'll need to find a different libero, and that means either Damrow gets the job done or GG needs to really improve her passing and mental work. I still like her more as a DS where she doesn't have the same level of responsibility. Shumacher is great by all accounts. Chan could have a say too. I like Orzol at L2 if one of them pans out.
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 20, 2023 0:08:36 GMT -5
Landfair announcement in t-minus 48 hours. TMZ reports. Back to her home state and Illinois?
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 20, 2023 0:35:39 GMT -5
Jurevicious is followed by CC and Lola Schumacher on Instagram... Rutherford followed by Sarah, Devyn, & Carter... For whatever that's worth...
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Dec 20, 2023 0:41:34 GMT -5
Excited to see her play in college. I think if Wisconsin runs a 5-1 with her, it’s really going to elevate this team.
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Post by 25or624 on Dec 20, 2023 0:54:03 GMT -5
Excited to see her play in college. I think if Wisconsin runs a 5-1 with her, it’s really going to elevate this team. While you're here, is Whitney going to start for Texas? Is she displacing someone if she does? Thanks.
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 20, 2023 1:20:45 GMT -5
Excited to see her play in college. I think if Wisconsin runs a 5-1 with her, it’s really going to elevate this team. Don't bring in somebody as elite as her and put her in a 6-2, unless you have a super talented incumbent setter.
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Post by 200backer on Dec 20, 2023 9:14:52 GMT -5
Jurevicious is followed by CC and Lola Schumacher on Instagram... Rutherford followed by Sarah, Devyn, & Carter... For whatever that's worth... I don’t think this means anything, they probably just kinda know each other, the highest level of any sport is a small world. Also people follow people on instagram even if it is a very loose connection
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Post by swaggyp on Dec 20, 2023 11:48:02 GMT -5
> Not discrediting Texas, but I think the semis and finals were flukey by all 3 teams, Texas served the best they ever have it completely broke Wisconsin/Nebraska in an unexpected way. I think this statement probably does discredit Texas more than a little but in general I agree with you. Texas' numbers on the serve were excellent all year, but to do what they did to two very good defensive teams, and an elite passing team like Nebraska, that is an outlier, no doubt. I'm excited for next season too.
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