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Post by trojansc on Dec 22, 2023 22:16:04 GMT -5
Adding a conference tournament as the last week, after a single-round-robin, might be the least bad option (imho), and I hate it. You could conceivably do it with the top four, six (two byes), or eight teams (play Wed if needed, and then Fri/Sat). I plan on complaining uselessly once the schedules start coming out. In a true round-robin, a team can't be too upset about being excluded from a conference tournament or sending them to a lower tournament if they are in the bottom half. If it had to be one week for the tournament, for example, you could send #1-#8 or #1-10 as the 'top' tournament and #9-#18 or #11-#18 to the 'consolation' tournament. This would definitely protect RPI. But I could see teams being upset about having to play three matches in the final week of the season (though plenty of mid-majors do this anyways). There's creative options, but a 20-game regular conference season schedule is just not the option the Big Ten should commit to. THERE'S NO REASON THE SUN BELT SHOULD BE SCHOOLING THE BIG TEN IN RPI SCHEDULING |
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Post by JT on Dec 22, 2023 22:19:37 GMT -5
If it had to be one week for the tournament, for example, you could send #1-#8 or #1-10 as the 'top' tournament and #9-#18 or #11-#18 to the 'consolation' tournament. This would definitely protect RPI. But I could see teams being upset about having to play three matches in the final week of the season (though plenty of mid-majors do this anyways). If you have more than 8 teams in the tournament, you run the risk of having to play four matches in the final week of the season. |
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Post by vbruh on Dec 22, 2023 22:21:10 GMT -5
Just a thought, and something I did back in the day with a D3 soccer conference that worked well...3 tiers of post season playoffs based on regular season standings. Top 6 play for title, etc. Gives each tier of teams a chance to improve RPI, play against similar level of team. Top third example:
1st
4th
5th winner
3rd winner
6th
2nd
17 game regular season, with potential to play 3 extra games, top seeds playing 2 extra games.
This year would have looked like this:
Nebraska
Purdue
Minnesota Winner
Penn St. Winner
Indiana
Wisconsin
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Post by vbdiva on Dec 22, 2023 22:25:43 GMT -5
Wisconsin at #1 is a bold choice for a team graduating both setters. New setter coming in who is very good ... This is her Sophomore year.... she's 5 times better now, bigger, stronger and more experienced.... |
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Post by knapplc on Dec 22, 2023 22:28:05 GMT -5
THERE'S NO REASON THE SUN BELT SHOULD BE SCHOOLING THE BIG TEN IN RPI SCHEDULING What? |
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Post by trojansc on Dec 22, 2023 22:34:00 GMT -5
If it had to be one week for the tournament, for example, you could send #1-#8 or #1-10 as the 'top' tournament and #9-#18 or #11-#18 to the 'consolation' tournament. This would definitely protect RPI. But I could see teams being upset about having to play three matches in the final week of the season (though plenty of mid-majors do this anyways). If you have more than 8 teams in the tournament, you run the risk of having to play four matches in the final week of the season. Sure. Which, if the #8-#10 Big Ten Team ends up making the Championship, they could have easily earned themselves a tournament bid that they didn't have coming into the week. But, I still think this can easily be avoided with some creative scheduling. Or the Big Ten could have 'pods' in the Final Week or Two while giving the AQ to the regular season champion after 8 weeks with little mini-tournaments that don't count for tournament AQ means. Guarantee #1 plays #4 and #3 in the 2nd to last week, and #2, #5 int he last week. There's so many options to max RPI, seeds, and tournament bid potential WITHOUT a 20-game regular season schedule. I know some of this may sound weird, but, it's an 18-team conference with spread out geography - you'll have to get creative with the unnecessary emphasis on RPI that our current sport has. |
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Post by vbdiva on Dec 22, 2023 22:35:44 GMT -5
IMHO, best would be a Power League setup:
Based on your previous year's performance, six teams in each division play the others twice within their power division, plus 8 matches of other power groups. For a total of 18 matches.
RED: Wisconsin, Penn St, USC, Oregon, Nebraska, Purdue
WHITE: Michigan St, Ohio St, Michigan, UCLA, Minnesota, Indiana
BLUE: Washington, Rutgers, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, Northwestern
Say Michigan wins all their White Div matches, 10-0, upset a couple in the Red division, 3-1, and 3-1 in Blue Division -- They could ultimately still be B1G Champions at 16-2, so every match counts!
Actually, I think RED Division winner(s) are automaticly the overall B1G Champion, the others would get a small flag, "B1G White Div Champs" etc. Makes you want to be in the red from the start or work towards for the following season.
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Post by trojansc on Dec 22, 2023 22:38:08 GMT -5
THERE'S NO REASON THE SUN BELT SHOULD BE SCHOOLING THE BIG TEN IN RPI SCHEDULING What? The Sun Belt created a system within their conference schedule to max their tournament bids and it was brilliant. The Big Ten has not (and from what the rumors are for 2024, also WILL not). There is some buy-in from bottom teams needed in every conference (i.e Rutgers/Iowa/Alabama/Virginia Tech/Arizona/etc.) needing them to schedule as weak as possible and rack up wins, but, you can still prevent as much RPI damage from potentially happening within your conference schedule. |
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Post by photos1 on Dec 22, 2023 22:45:45 GMT -5
Here are too early rankings for 2024 Big Ten… 1. Wisconsin 2. Nebraska 3. Penn State 4. USC 5. Purdue 6. Oregon 7. Minnesota 8. Ohio State 9. UCLA 10. Washington 11. Illinois 12. Indiana 13. Maryland 14. Michigan State 15. Northwestern 16. Michigan 17. Rutgers 18. Iowa Nebraska won the conference by 2 matches in 2023, while starting 4 freshman, 1 sophomore and 1 junior…and they had no seniors and you pick Wisconsin to win the conference? Interesting…just funny. If Nebraska pulls themselves away from tik-tok and NIL opportunities long enough to train properly, I doubt Wisconsin will beat them. Keller at USC is a good coach and I image they will always be very formidable but Fields will be gone and they are going to have to find ways to replace that huge hole in their offense. I image they will bring in at least one big time name from the portal, but I don’t see them being better than Purdue or Penn State. I doubt they will even be better than Oregon. As long as Indiana has Haworth they are a threat, but there is something wrong with the culture in Bloomington-there is no reason they weren’t in the tournament in ‘23, but they weren’t. Except for Iowa again being the worst team in the conference, most of the rest is just a crapshoot. Maybe the picture will get a little clearer when the portal is mined. I think Haskell is gonna have to get Wisconsin some back row help, but who knows. I believe they will get 10 bids to the tournament. 🏐 |
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Post by vbdiva on Dec 22, 2023 22:47:54 GMT -5
Here are too early rankings for 2024 Big Ten… 1. Wisconsin 2. Nebraska 3. Penn State 4. USC 5. Purdue 6. Oregon 7. Minnesota 8. Ohio State 9. UCLA 10. Washington 11. Illinois 12. Indiana 13. Maryland 14. Michigan State 15. Northwestern 16. Michigan 17. Rutgers 18. Iowa Nebraska won the conference by 2 matches in 2023, while starting 4 freshman, 1 sophomore and 1 junior…and they had no seniors and you pick Wisconsin to win the conference? Interesting…just funny. If Nebraska pulls themselves away from tik-tok and NIL opportunities long enough to train properly, I doubt Wisconsin will beat them. Keller at USC is a good coach and I image they will always be very formidable but Fields will be gone and they are going to have to find ways to replace that huge hole in their offense. I image they will bring in at least one big time name from the portal, but I don’t see them being better than Purdue or Penn State. I doubt they will even be better than Oregon. As long as Indiana has Haworth they are a threat, but there is something wrong with the culture in Bloomington-there is no reason they weren’t in the tournament in ‘23, but they weren’t. Except for Iowa again being the worst team in the conference, most of the rest is just a crapshoot. Maybe the picture will get a little clearer when the portal is mined. I think Haskell is gonna have to get Wisconsin some back row help, but who knows. I believe they will get 10 bids to the tournament.
Wisconsin also swept your asses on Nov 24th..... and had match point at your stank ass arena |
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Post by vbruh on Dec 22, 2023 22:51:26 GMT -5
Schools are paired for regular season, and travel together to play travel pair:
Oregon-Wash
USC-UCLA
Wisc-Minn
Iowa-Neb
Northwestern-Ill
Indiana-Purdue
Michigan-Michigan St
Ohio St-Penn St
Rutgers-Maryland
This means 4 home weekends, and 4 travel weekends...not bad. Each travel partner plays each other as well, for a 17 game regular season. Playoffs would add either 2 or 3 matches, and I'm guessing the tranches will only help each others' RPI, right?
If there is a way to improve B1G RPI by a playoff round with 2 or 3 tiers, THEN DO IT.
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Post by skolgophers on Dec 22, 2023 23:58:59 GMT -5
Might as well move MN down to 10-12 on that list. Just lost another returning starter to the portal.
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Post by photos1 on Dec 23, 2023 2:16:32 GMT -5
Nebraska won the conference by 2 matches in 2023, while starting 4 freshman, 1 sophomore and 1 junior…and they had no seniors and you pick Wisconsin to win the conference? Interesting…just funny. If Nebraska pulls themselves away from tik-tok and NIL opportunities long enough to train properly, I doubt Wisconsin will beat them. Keller at USC is a good coach and I image they will always be very formidable but Fields will be gone and they are going to have to find ways to replace that huge hole in their offense. I image they will bring in at least one big time name from the portal, but I don’t see them being better than Purdue or Penn State. I doubt they will even be better than Oregon. As long as Indiana has Haworth they are a threat, but there is something wrong with the culture in Bloomington-there is no reason they weren’t in the tournament in ‘23, but they weren’t. Except for Iowa again being the worst team in the conference, most of the rest is just a crapshoot. Maybe the picture will get a little clearer when the portal is mined. I think Haskell is gonna have to get Wisconsin some back row help, but who knows. I believe they will get 10 bids to the tournament.
Wisconsin also swept your asses on Nov 24th..... and had match point at your stank ass arenaAnd Nebraska was in the 2023 National Championship match, and well, Wisconsin was not… just like Wisconsin wasn’t B1G champions… and Nebraska has 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆, and Wisconsin has what, one….? That’s funny. Well, at least Haskell can dig out his checkbook and try to buy more 24 year-old portal players this week or send some stooge to Transylvania or some other 4th world country to bring back another great back row hope who can’t pass… but you seem angry… must be like all the ex-Wisconsin players are angry every Olympic cycle when none of them get to be on the USNT… but, some of them make serviceable practice players… unlike the Nebraska players who get to play and win medals… but you know that…is that why you are so angry. Am I being mean? Probably, but accurate… 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆to one…. 😂 🏐 |
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Post by ay2013 on Dec 23, 2023 3:23:23 GMT -5
New setter coming in who is very good ... Yeah, but a freshman setter could never…..wait, wut?…..never mind. But what is this video supposed to show? Most of it is off of very good passing, and even then, much of the offensive transition was picked up defensively. I’m not saying Charlie F. won’t be a good setter, but I just don’t see how she’s going to make the difference between what Wisconsin did this year and what they will do next year. |
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Post by vbdiva on Dec 23, 2023 8:49:39 GMT -5
And Nebraska was in the 2023 National Championship match, and well, Wisconsin was not… just like Wisconsin wasn’t B1G champions… and Nebraska has 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆, and Wisconsin has what, one….? That’s funny. Well, at least Haskell can dig out his checkbook and try to buy more 24 year-old portal players this week or send some stooge to Transylvania or some other 4th world country to bring back another great back row hope who can’t pass… but you seem angry… must be like all the ex-Wisconsin players are angry every Olympic cycle when none of them get to be on the USNT… but, some of them make serviceable practice players… unlike the Nebraska players who get to play and win medals… but you know that…is that why you are so angry. Am I being mean? Probably, but accurate… 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆to one…. 😂 you wrote this while wearing a nightie and looking into your mirror telling yourself you're such a naughty troll.... You weird bruh. You are too obsessed with the children of the corn... go beyond state lines country bumpkin' 🏐 |
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