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Post by bbg95 on Jul 17, 2024 20:00:45 GMT -5
I don't think there's much tea here. Despite the good things that Frantti might bring, I don't think it's a stretch to assume that Frantti's (over-all) demeanor and/or energy is or can be off-putting to Karch. He certainly wouldn't be the only one with this opinion. If that's the reason he made the decision, he's incompetent.
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 17, 2024 20:02:42 GMT -5
Frantti has a bf, turkish ceo of football club. Maybe when she didn't made it to the roster that was her sign. Maybe they are planning to get married? But for bajema? I don't know what happened to her. I think the Frantti/Skinner decision was pretty much a toss up and the nod went to the younger player(for a change) VNL week 2 both came in, provided a spark and made significant contributions…..and then erred & got blocked a bunch. if you take Frantti, only 1 player on that roster is under 30 come LA. I think Karch felt the need (in a tossup) to have more continuity going forward. I think the goal should be to win this tournament, not worry about continuity for a tournament in four years. And Plummer shouldn't have been a lock.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jul 17, 2024 20:05:25 GMT -5
I don't think there's much tea here. Despite the good things that Frantti might bring, I don't think it's a stretch to assume that Frantti's (over-all) demeanor and/or energy is or can be off-putting to Karch. He certainly wouldn't be the only one with this opinion. If that's the reason he made the decision, he's incompetent. well it wouldnt be the first time see: Destinee, Logan, etc.
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Post by northwoods on Jul 17, 2024 20:24:28 GMT -5
I think the Frantti/Skinner decision was pretty much a toss up and the nod went to the younger player(for a change) VNL week 2 both came in, provided a spark and made significant contributions…..and then erred & got blocked a bunch. if you take Frantti, only 1 player on that roster is under 30 come LA. I think Karch felt the need (in a tossup) to have more continuity going forward. that feels like giving a lot of credit to a staff that has historically ignored the development part and just hoped for the best when they get to club lol You don’t need to be a staff of rocket scientist to see that this roster was showing its age & physically breaking down during VNL ….and shame on the other players in the gym the last 3 years for not making change just obvious by out playing the vets. They get to defend gold which is something, but the next generation needs to step up next quad and Avery, Dana and KP (maybe Hentz) are a good core.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jul 17, 2024 20:37:31 GMT -5
that feels like giving a lot of credit to a staff that has historically ignored the development part and just hoped for the best when they get to club lol You don’t need to be a staff of rocket scientist to see that this roster was showing its age & physically breaking down during VNL ….and shame on the other players in the gym the last 3 years for not making change just obvious by out playing the vets. They get to defend gold which is something, but the next generation needs to step up next quad and Avery, Dana and KP (maybe Hentz) are a good core. which would be great and dandy if they (the usa staff) werent continually wasting opportunities. 2023 was a complete waste. Instead of integrating new players with potential for LA, we got several that werent in consideration for Paris at all. Even this year they still gave time to Cuttino, Parsons (no offense Sarah, you were robbed in Tokyo), and Haneline when Eggelston, Hoffman, and Jimerson all had better pro seasons and higher ceilings (in regards to LA) than any of the aforementioned. I'm not even sure you can blame the other players for not outplaying the vets because 1) they're not getting the opportunity half of the time 2) it doesnt matter anyways. See the setters, opposites, and middles on this roster. JWO is probably the only player on this roster that you can say without a doubt that her performance on court is what earned her spot and not other factors.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 21:43:33 GMT -5
Would Frantti like to join the NORCECA Champions instead… no kumbaya and her energy will definitely match Team Chaos Or is that only allowed for Turkey I'm a fan of something like this happening. If you get slighted by your national team, other teams get a crack at you. With a limit of one transfer per national team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 21:46:47 GMT -5
Who cares if it’s off putting to karch tho. It works. Every time she has come in she has helped turn the tide and energy of the match in USAs favor. Turkey Serbia Turkey again and other matches. That should matter way more than whether she bothers karch or etc. Just how I feel! Do your parents know you're on the internet? lol This seems unnecessary. There are plenty of Karch haters on this board, lol!
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Post by bruinsgold on Jul 17, 2024 21:49:34 GMT -5
Is Frantti in the portal???
Like, has anyone checked to verify yet?
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Post by volleyguy on Jul 17, 2024 21:51:10 GMT -5
Do your parents know you're on the internet? lol This seems unnecessary. There are plenty of Karch haters on this board, lol! Apparently some people fail to realize that. That is why parental supervision is essential.
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Post by trojansc on Jul 17, 2024 21:54:15 GMT -5
I don't think there's much tea here. Despite the good things that Frantti might bring, I don't think it's a stretch to assume that Frantti's (over-all) demeanor and/or energy is or can be off-putting to Karch. He certainly wouldn't be the only one with this opinion. If that's the reason he made the decision, he's incompetent. Maybe some of pro experts may have a different opinion, but, the USA has to be the best federation if a coach was looking to have the most weapons/depth/potential to make a best possible 'team'. I know, there's a lack of go-to OPP, but I think USA has some players who could potentially fill that role, or at least be good enough with the pieces around them. It just seems like the final product that USA puts out seems so much weaker than their ceiling should be given the personnel and player pool.
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Post by Disc808 on Jul 17, 2024 22:00:04 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this was shared earlier and I missed it, but a blog from Cook on Paris training and practice. Larson is playing front row in this, so I wonder when the injury occurred. Hopefully it’s minor
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jul 17, 2024 22:01:57 GMT -5
If that's the reason he made the decision, he's incompetent. Maybe some of pro experts may have a different opinion, but, the USA has to be the best federation if a coach was looking to have the most weapons/depth/potential to make a best possible 'team'. I know, there's a lack of go-to OPP, but I think USA has some players who could potentially fill that role, or at least be good enough with the pieces around them. It just seems like the final product that USA puts out seems so much weaker than their ceiling should be given the personnel and player pool. There's not a country in the world with a larger player pool. And they have the resources to boot. The player depth isnt what it once was (whether that is a result of Karch or not is another story). Afaik, USA is one of the top paying jobs. If they're comfortable with being in the USA for large periods of time and they want a project, I dont see why it wouldnt be a top job. The only thing probably holding it back would be the (lack of) ambition of the federation. USA is bottom tier in that department.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jul 17, 2024 22:22:43 GMT -5
This could be the first quad since 1980 where USA didnt earn a global medal
2024: zilch 2017-21: Olympic Gold, VNL Gold x3, World Cup Silver 2013-16: Olympic Bronze, World Championship Gold, World Cup Bronze, 2009-12: Olympic Silver, World Cup Silver, 2005-08: Olympic Silver, World Cup Bronze, 2001-04: World Cup Bronze, World Championship Silver, 1997-2000: Pan Am Games Bronze 1993-96: Grand Prix Bronze 1989-92: Olympic Bronze, World Championship Bronze 1985-88: Pan Am Games Bronze 1981-84: Olympic Silver, Pan Am Games Silver, World Championship Bronze 1980: Soviet Olympics, didnt play.
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 17, 2024 22:31:09 GMT -5
Maybe some of pro experts may have a different opinion, but, the USA has to be the best federation if a coach was looking to have the most weapons/depth/potential to make a best possible 'team'. I know, there's a lack of go-to OPP, but I think USA has some players who could potentially fill that role, or at least be good enough with the pieces around them. It just seems like the final product that USA puts out seems so much weaker than their ceiling should be given the personnel and player pool. There's not a country in the world with a larger player pool. And they have the resources to boot. The player depth isnt what it once was (whether that is a result of Karch or not is another story). Afaik, USA is one of the top paying jobs. If they're comfortable with being in the USA for large periods of time and they want a project, I dont see why it wouldnt be a top job. The only thing probably holding it back would be the (lack of) ambition of the federation. USA is bottom tier in that department. I would think the lack of a real pro league until recently probably also plays a part. Some of our best retire rather than play overseas.
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 17, 2024 22:35:43 GMT -5
This could be the first quad since 1980 where USA didnt earn a global medal 2024: zilch 2017-21: Olympic Gold, VNL Gold x3, World Cup Silver 2013-16: Olympic Bronze, World Championship Gold, World Cup Bronze, 2009-12: Olympic Silver, World Cup Silver, 2005-08: Olympic Silver, World Cup Bronze, 2001-04: World Cup Bronze, World Championship Silver, 1997-2000: Pan Am Games Bronze 1993-96: Grand Prix Bronze 1989-92: Olympic Bronze, World Championship Bronze 1985-88: Pan Am Games Bronze 1981-84: Pan Am Games Silver, World Championship Bronze 1980: Soviet Olympics, didnt play. Thanks for the information. 1984 is missing the Olympic silver.
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