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Post by Disc808 on Feb 28, 2024 17:58:49 GMT -5
this is where I say that the USA needs to start developing passing opposites if we aren’t going to develop huge point scorers over there lol I had this thought today. is there a reason why investing in good passers but weak attackers as opposites isnt a thing? I feel like China/Japan have done this.. But feels like with today’s serving there seems to be a shortage of well rounded passer / attackers on the outside lol |
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Post by Reach on Feb 28, 2024 19:30:56 GMT -5
I had this thought today. is there a reason why investing in good passers but weak attackers as opposites isnt a thing? I feel like China/Japan have done this.. But feels like with today’s serving there seems to be a shortage of well rounded passer / attackers on the outside lol China has done it as long as 2004 iirc.. they’ve always had a big stick on the left to score a majority of their points. 2004 is the worst example with Feng distributing to all hitters like no other.. but that opposite, can’t remember name, would pass and then run a myriad of combos. She was awesome. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Feb 28, 2024 19:33:08 GMT -5
I had this thought today. is there a reason why investing in good passers but weak attackers as opposites isnt a thing? well there’s a rotation that’s pretty much impossible to have your opposite pass (rotation 2)never forget byu Purdue when byu got stuck in the shank tank with koerber stuck out of the passing formation in ro 2 Oh we'll NEVER forget!  |
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Post by Longhorn20 on Feb 28, 2024 20:53:02 GMT -5
this is where I say that the USA needs to start developing passing opposites if we aren’t going to develop huge point scorers over there lol I had this thought today. is there a reason why investing in good passers but weak attackers as opposites isnt a thing? I feel like Courtney-Lush could have been perfect for this. Fantastic pin blocker, great passer. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Feb 29, 2024 2:08:32 GMT -5
I feel like China/Japan have done this.. But feels like with today’s serving there seems to be a shortage of well rounded passer / attackers on the outside lol China has done it as long as 2004 iirc.. they’ve always had a big stick on the left to score a majority of their points. 2004 is the worst example with Feng distributing to all hitters like no other.. but that opposite, can’t remember name, would pass and then run a myriad of combos. She was awesome. Zhou Suhong. It was very common in Asian-style volleyball (China, Korea and Japan would all run variations) to have a multi-skilled player at opp who would pass dimes and run combos, and a non-passing L1 who could crush quick balls in trans. It was really only in the last ten-twenty years that Asian teams moved to "Western style." |
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Post by memorybankrupt on Feb 29, 2024 13:08:20 GMT -5
China has done it as long as 2004 iirc.. they’ve always had a big stick on the left to score a majority of their points. 2004 is the worst example with Feng distributing to all hitters like no other.. but that opposite, can’t remember name, would pass and then run a myriad of combos. She was awesome. Zhou Suhong. I looooved Suhong Zhou. Great combos and slide. Amazing defender. China with Gong at OPP and LYY/ZT at OH is somewhat similar to the 2004 team in roles. I think if USA used Plummer in a heavy attacking/less passing and used a less attacking/heavy passing OPP I wouldn't hate it. I would also second Courtney-Lusch. It was very common in Asian-style volleyball (China, Korea and Japan would all run variations) to have a multi-skilled player at opp who would pass dimes and run combos, and a non-passing L1 who could crush quick balls in trans. It was really only in the last ten-twenty years that Asian teams moved to "Western style." |
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Post by Reach on Feb 29, 2024 17:03:37 GMT -5
Zhou Suhong. I looooved Suhong Zhou. Great combos and slide. Amazing defender. China with Gong at OPP and LYY/ZT at OH is somewhat similar to the 2004 team in roles. I think if USA used Plummer in a heavy attacking/less passing and used a less attacking/heavy passing OPP I wouldn't hate it. I would also second Courtney-Lusch. It was very common in Asian-style volleyball (China, Korea and Japan would all run variations) to have a multi-skilled player at opp who would pass dimes and run combos, and a non-passing L1 who could crush quick balls in trans. It was really only in the last ten-twenty years that Asian teams moved to "Western style." China doesn’t have the ball control or the setting they had in 2004. Nobody does lol. That team was sick |
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Post by akinradeheaux on Feb 29, 2024 20:42:38 GMT -5
China doesn’t have the ball control or the setting they had in 2004. Nobody does lol. That team was sick Nobody could read Feng Kun. Russian middles on the verge of tears. |
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Post by Reach on Feb 29, 2024 21:57:31 GMT -5
China doesn’t have the ball control or the setting they had in 2004. Nobody does lol. That team was sick Nobody could read Feng Kun. Russian middles on the verge of tears. Vodka tears… |
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Post by bigredhimbo on Mar 1, 2024 15:19:03 GMT -5
Nobody could read Feng Kun. Russian middles on the verge of tears. Vodka tears… cool superpower actually, might burn a bit though |
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Post by Reach on Mar 1, 2024 15:43:38 GMT -5
cool superpower actually, might burn a bit though But actually it’s just a effect of the sideline poppers… |
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Post by Reach on Mar 1, 2024 15:44:35 GMT -5
Speaking of Russia, do they ever get to play volleyball again because their leader is stupid or what?
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Post by c4ndlelight on Mar 1, 2024 15:47:27 GMT -5
I had this thought today. is there a reason why investing in good passers but weak attackers as opposites isnt a thing? well there’s a rotation that’s pretty much impossible to have your opposite pass (rotation 2)never forget byu Purdue when byu got stuck in the shank tank with koerber stuck out of the passing formation in ro 2 It is virtually impossible, yet somehow the Japanese NT used to do it. The setter would release from middle back - I don't think it would be viable with how much better/faster serves are today. I would have to go re-watch some old China to see what they did with Zhou in Ro2. |
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Post by bigredhimbo on Mar 1, 2024 15:56:29 GMT -5
cool superpower actually, might burn a bit though But actually it’s just a effect of the sideline poppers… i wouldn't know 😊 bitch lmao |
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Post by tablealgebra on Mar 1, 2024 23:50:31 GMT -5
well there’s a rotation that’s pretty much impossible to have your opposite pass (rotation 2)never forget byu Purdue when byu got stuck in the shank tank with koerber stuck out of the passing formation in ro 2 It is virtually impossible, yet somehow the Japanese NT used to do it. The setter would release from middle back - I don't think it would be viable with how much better/faster serves are today. I would have to go re-watch some old China to see what they did with Zhou in Ro2. Yeah, feels like just serving right at the setter would cause massive problems. I don't understand why more teams don't do it in rotation 1. |
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