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Post by redcard on Dec 30, 2023 17:08:50 GMT -5
I can’t believe someone’s father hasn’t flattened the little !!!!###$$$!!!er….lucky it wasn’t my kid on that team. Time for national news to pick this story up and maybe something will change.
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 30, 2023 17:10:49 GMT -5
A buy-out doesn't seem necessary. There's clearly enough evidence to fire him for cause.
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Post by Mark Richards on Dec 30, 2023 17:41:17 GMT -5
If people show you who they really are believe them
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Post by n00b on Dec 30, 2023 18:16:50 GMT -5
The current players on the team hit the nail on the head: This is about an Administrator who cannot accept the fact that they made a really bad hire. And more importantly, they appear to have made that hire based entirely on trust and the recommendation of their colleagues/friends/previous hires at another institution. Any kind of objective reference and background check would have raised enough flags to make someone consider the value of this hire from the beginning. The sheer willfulness of ignoring so many complaints, not following up on promised meetings, and deliberately mis-stating facts suggests that the problem is much bigger than hiring a bad coach. Anyone who knows Chris or has followed his career knows well that he has a penchant for exaggerating his own role and personal accomplishments. It's pretty hard to exaggerate a 4-24 record in Season one and 1-27 record in Season 2, but somehow he's managed to get other to rationalize it for him. Just incredible. Unfortunately that is the way sports like volleyball work. The AD doesn't want to deal with the minor sports, so they delegate to an associate AD, usually the SWA. If the associate AD does not have connections within the sport, they reach out to anyone they think is connected, which results in people doing favors for each other. This is no different from the good old boy network that had been in operation for years in sports, it is just that there are less connection between the ability and reputations of those recommended and reality. To be fair, you'd think a Kelly Sheffield recommendation would be solid.
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Post by jcvball22 on Dec 30, 2023 18:18:32 GMT -5
Unfortunately that is the way sports like volleyball work. The AD doesn't want to deal with the minor sports, so they delegate to an associate AD, usually the SWA. If the associate AD does not have connections within the sport, they reach out to anyone they think is connected, which results in people doing favors for each other. This is no different from the good old boy network that had been in operation for years in sports, it is just that there are less connection between the ability and reputations of those recommended and reality. To be fair, you'd think a Kelly Sheffield recommendation would be solid. Would you? Because I wouldn’t.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Dec 30, 2023 18:19:28 GMT -5
A buy-out doesn't seem necessary. There's clearly enough evidence to fire him for cause. Completely agree; he doesn’t deserve a buyout. The only reason I’d think they’d go for it would be to avoid any kind of legal action should he be canned. Even though he’s clearly in the wrong, he seems like enough of an as*hole to make some sort of stink of it.
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Post by wonkaman on Dec 30, 2023 18:20:22 GMT -5
Definitely someone who has a lot of baggage. Leaving a club in the middle of a season claiming he had a job in Japan and then being seen a month or so later at a tournament coaching with another club. Perhaps the job in Japan fell through but not a good look. A legend in his own mind.
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Post by n00b on Dec 30, 2023 18:21:07 GMT -5
To be fair, you'd think a Kelly Sheffield recommendation would be solid. Would you? Because I wouldn’t. Before this, yes. I would've thought he'd know who problematic coaches are. There certainly question marks around Sheffield, but I've never heard it being about treating his players poorly.
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 30, 2023 18:21:08 GMT -5
Unfortunately that is the way sports like volleyball work. The AD doesn't want to deal with the minor sports, so they delegate to an associate AD, usually the SWA. If the associate AD does not have connections within the sport, they reach out to anyone they think is connected, which results in people doing favors for each other. This is no different from the good old boy network that had been in operation for years in sports, it is just that there are less connection between the ability and reputations of those recommended and reality. To be fair, you'd think a Kelly Sheffield recommendation would be solid. To be fair, it all depends on what the extent of the relationships was (Sheffield and Gonzalez, and Sheffield and Gawlik). I have no idea how Sheffield knows Chris, but I'm surprised Sheffield waded in on this.
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Post by n00b on Dec 30, 2023 18:23:12 GMT -5
I have no idea how Sheffield knows Chris, but I'm surprised Sheffield waded in on this. I believe the reference to Sheffield's recommendation was during the hiring process, not now. So he didn't choose to be a part of this story. This idiot AD inserted him into it.
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Post by mervinswerved on Dec 30, 2023 18:24:12 GMT -5
Or the AD is exaggerating Sheffield's input into the process in order to add legitimacy to the hire.
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Post by vbjustice on Dec 30, 2023 18:24:45 GMT -5
This surprises….. nobody. What did surprise me was Goree’s multitude of quotes. Just yikes after yikes. agree. They both need to be gone. Disgraceful.
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Post by vbct3 on Dec 30, 2023 18:24:54 GMT -5
I have no idea how Sheffield knows Chris, but I'm surprised Sheffield waded in on this. I believe the reference to Sheffield's recommendation was during the hiring process, not now. So he didn't choose to be a part of this story. This idiot AD inserted him into it. Sheffield inserted himself into it by backing someone with known and documented behavioral issues during the hiring process.
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 30, 2023 18:26:34 GMT -5
I have no idea how Sheffield knows Chris, but I'm surprised Sheffield waded in on this. I believe the reference to Sheffield's recommendation was during the hiring process, not now. So he didn't choose to be a part of this story. This idiot AD inserted him into it. I understand. Gawlik was the one who highlighted the Sheffield recommendation in the hiring announcement. He may or may not have known she was placing so much reliance on his recommendation, or he may have pushed for Chris, perhaps thinking that it being Idaho made it "low-risk, high reward" in a way that it wouldn't be at a major program.
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Post by mervinswerved on Dec 30, 2023 18:30:08 GMT -5
She hired a guy who is well known for being entirely full of sh*t so it stands to reason she may also be full of sh*t.
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