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Post by volleyguy on May 9, 2024 14:30:17 GMT -5
They could just as easily work the other way around. In Vegas, for example, the Thrill President ran one of the largest clubs on the area for a long time. That could be his project. That will depend on PVF sticking around long enough for LOVB to adopt the franchise model. His only option right now will be to allow LOVB to totally buy him out and allow him a share (it would be a pretty small share at this point considering the number of venture capitalists yet have signed) in the company. I'm not sure keeping the club and using the failed pro-franchise as a write-off wouldn't be more financially beneficial. I assume part of LOVB’s ultimate plan is to grow the league. It’s a cheap and easy means of expansion that will also discourage competitors.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 9, 2024 14:47:42 GMT -5
Yes. LOVB has chosen not to have that many home matches. If they want to change that, they don't need to buy PVF to do it. And Supernovas playing 12 home matches versus 6 for LOVB Omaha is not going to be that imapctful, especially with how the leagues are stacking up against each other in terms of star power, quality, media distribution, etc. Look at what NFL teams have done with 8 home games. Just depends on how important you think locals being able to see your team is. Between Omaha’s home weekends, they will go 5 weeks in which they will play a single home match - on a weeknight. I don’t really know what to think at this point. I really like what PVF has done in terms of match production. I think attendance has been good (some places better than others), so they’re reaching the local community. But PVF fell flat on a TV/streaming deal and LOVB clearly landed the tier A athletes. The biggest hurdle for me to get on board with LOVB in season 1 is the non-competitive nature of everything they’re doing. The league dividing up even teams. All six teams make the playoffs. Neutral site matches. It just seems like an exhibition tour to me. And I don’t find that particularly interesting. That was slightly off topic but I think there is a significant Supernovas fan base that actually attends matches that matters. 10,000 fans attending 6 extra matches playing $20 per ticket is not an insignificant amount of money. I think the Omaha attendance isn't tied to the Supernovas though. They're gonna pack 10K+ for LOVB Omaha too. That is a lot of revenue, but even Omaha may or may not be in the black. That's basically the only source of revenue, and payroll is probably eating up half of it, plus housing, travel, facilities fees, contributions to the league/prize pool, etc., etc. And no other team is selling nearly as many tickets, and we know they're not making much from the USAV advertising.
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Post by stanfordvb on May 9, 2024 16:31:35 GMT -5
what are some PVF players that might want to consider transferring hypothetically Chausee has been rumored to LOVB Madison. Names I would want to see based on play this season: Lazareva, Hentz, Edmonds, Kipp, Cooper, Brown, Stone, Tomkom, TTA, McCage, Nunaviller... There are others but those are the ones that come to mind... yea chausse is apparently going to lovb Madison... heard edmond was offered and declined. Fortunately for her but unfortunately for us, pvf will pay hentz more than lovb would so she probably won't be leaving yet imo. Kipp has signed to go overseas again im pretty sure
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Post by avid 2.0 on May 9, 2024 17:22:12 GMT -5
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Post by spideas on May 9, 2024 18:23:27 GMT -5
Chausee has been rumored to LOVB Madison. Names I would want to see based on play this season: Lazareva, Hentz, Edmonds, Kipp, Cooper, Brown, Stone, Tomkom, TTA, McCage, Nunaviller... There are others but those are the ones that come to mind... yea chausse is apparently going to lovb Madison... heard edmond was offered and declined. Fortunately for her but unfortunately for us, pvf will pay hentz more than lovb would so she probably won't be leaving yet imo. Kipp has signed to go overseas again im pretty sure Thanks for the update... You are right about Kipp heading to Vakifbank...
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Post by katn on May 10, 2024 13:11:51 GMT -5
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Post by avid 2.0 on May 14, 2024 11:40:30 GMT -5
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Post by knapplc on May 14, 2024 11:54:50 GMT -5
2011. Never forget.
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Post by bbg95 on May 14, 2024 15:23:47 GMT -5
So which teams got the best coaches?
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Post by avid 2.0 on May 14, 2024 15:31:03 GMT -5
So which teams get the best coaches? in terms of success Bonitta: World Champion, 2x Champions League Champion, 2x Italian League Champion Barbolini: 2x World Cup Champion, 4x Champions League Champion, 5x Italian League Champion Paulo: 2x Olympic Gold Medalist, 9x Grand Prix (former VNL champion) as an assistant, 5x Brazilian League champion as head coach Tama: Olympic gold medalist, 3x VNL champion as an assistant, 1x German League champion as an assistant Matt: VNL Broze, World Cup Champion, 2x VNL silver as an assistant for USA men Fritz: i dont know lol Bonitta and Barbolini probably have the best international reputation. I've heard a lot of good things about Tama
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Post by bbg95 on May 14, 2024 15:44:52 GMT -5
So which teams get the best coaches? in terms of success Bonitta: World Champion, 2x Champions League Champion, 2x Italian League Champion Barbolini: 2x World Cup Champion, 4x Champions League Champion, 5x Italian League Champion Paulo: 2x Olympic Gold Medalist, 9x Grand Prix (former VNL champion) as an assistant, 5x Brazilian League champion as head coach Tama: Olympic gold medalist, 3x VNL champion as an assistant, 1x German League champion as an assistant Matt: VNL Broze, World Cup Champion, 2x VNL silver as an assistant for USA men Fritz: i dont know lol Bonitta and Barbolini probably have the best international reputation. I've heard a lot of good things about Tama Thanks. I guess I feel pretty good about Tama to Salt Lake then.
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Post by Norah Sus on May 14, 2024 16:19:13 GMT -5
So which teams get the best coaches? in terms of success Fritz: i dont know lol Fritz: Coached the 2003 Big 12 Champions lol
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Post by aggielonghorn on May 14, 2024 18:33:55 GMT -5
what are some PVF players that might want to consider transferring hypothetically Chausee has been rumored to LOVB Madison. Names I would want to see based on play this season: Lazareva, Hentz, Edmonds, Kipp, Cooper, Brown, Stone, Tomkom, TTA, McCage, Nunaviller... There are others but those are the ones that come to mind... Some of these names are have already resigned to PVF. Some are on the board for PVF. Some are franchise players which would be hard to leave that guaranteed money
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Post by spideas on May 14, 2024 18:36:21 GMT -5
Chausee has been rumored to LOVB Madison. Names I would want to see based on play this season: Lazareva, Hentz, Edmonds, Kipp, Cooper, Brown, Stone, Tomkom, TTA, McCage, Nunaviller... There are others but those are the ones that come to mind... Some of these names are have already resigned to PVF. Some are on the board for PVF. Some are franchise players which would be hard to leave that guaranteed money Thanks for the update... I did not factor in the political / financial dimension... I was just thinking of the athletes that I have enjoyed watching this year in PVF (and a number of them in Athletes Unlimited)
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Post by milkmandan on May 14, 2024 21:58:43 GMT -5
Fritz - got fired by Kansas State
EDIT: The Omaha professional volleyball franchises, for being one of only two markets with teams in both leagues, are not exactly taking big swings when it comes to hiring coaches.
We've seen how it worked out with the Supernovas, and Fritz pretty much sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the other LOVB coaches' resumes.
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