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Hawaii
Oct 3, 2005 17:04:24 GMT -5
Post by potatocrisp on Oct 3, 2005 17:04:24 GMT -5
Whats going on with this team?? I was fortunate to be in Hawaii last week and went to a match there. Even though Hawaii won, they did not look like the team from last year. I guess last year each starter was secured that spot..so the team could gel. also, wasn't Jamie Houston on fire for the beginning of the season..what happened to her?
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Hawaii
Oct 3, 2005 17:30:12 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2005 17:30:12 GMT -5
This has been discussed ad nauseam on this board, but this is a quick recap. Hawaii has had numerous injuries this season, Shoji has said that Hittle and Mason will probably never be 100% this season. The only way to get them to 100% is for two weeks or more of rest, and they simply can't afford to do that right now.
The injuries have forced the coaching staff to make numerous lineup changes. This is one of the reasons why I think KK is struggling this year. Hawaii hasn't really had a set lineup all year, the players don't have the timing down on the sets and are confused at times.
Last year Hawaii had the same lineup basically all season. If a player was struggling Shoji didn't have too many options on the bench, so even if Arnott or Boogard was struggling they stayed in the match for the most part. This year with more depth Shoji is more quick to make substituitons when a player is struggling. Some Hawaii fans have said though that Shoji is has gone too far in the other direction by making too many substitutions and not letting someone play out of a slump. It's too bad we won't see a fully healthy Hawaii team this year.
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Hawaii
Oct 3, 2005 17:40:27 GMT -5
Post by 808 on Oct 3, 2005 17:40:27 GMT -5
It's too bad we won't see a fully healthy Hawaii team this year. I also think it's too bad that, injuries aside, no one has been able to grab those open spots as their own. The only one, recently, has been Juliana, who has pretty much (I think) locked up the MB2 position opposite Victoria. She's been connecting much better offensively and her blocking and court awareness are coming along. You can just see her brimming with confidence on the court. I had hoped that one or two of the OHs, knowing that there would be a lot of competition for playing time, would have been able to improve their games over the summer enough to separate themselves from the others.
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Hawaii
Oct 3, 2005 17:50:24 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2005 17:50:24 GMT -5
I think Hittle would have been one of those OH's. She had a good spring, and I think led the team in kills in the match against Nebraska. Watching her play, it's clear she's not same player pre-injury. Mason looks to be picking up her game though, and maybe she can claim one of the OH spots.
Jamie Houston has had flashes of brilliance but (understandably) she makes those freshman mistakes. Hopefully she'll work hard and avoid injury and she can have a breakout season next year.
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Hawaii
Oct 3, 2005 20:18:56 GMT -5
Post by SaltNPepper on Oct 3, 2005 20:18:56 GMT -5
This has been discussed ad nauseam on this board, but this is a quick recap. Hawaii has had numerous injuries this season, Shoji has said that Hittle and Mason will probably never be 100% this season. The only way to get them to 100% is for two weeks or more of rest, and they simply can't afford to do that right now. The injuries have forced the coaching staff to make numerous lineup changes. This is one of the reasons why I think KK is struggling this year. Hawaii hasn't really had a set lineup all year, the players don't have the timing down on the sets and are confused at times. Last year Hawaii had the same lineup basically all season. If a player was struggling Shoji didn't have too many options on the bench, so even if Arnott or Boogard was struggling they stayed in the match for the most part. This year with more depth Shoji is more quick to make substituitons when a player is struggling. Some Hawaii fans have said though that Shoji is has gone too far in the other direction by making too many substitutions and not letting someone play out of a slump. It's too bad we won't see a fully healthy Hawaii team this year. I really don't understand what you're saying here. First you says "The only way to get them to 100% is for two weeks or more of rest, and they simply can't afford to do that right now" and later say "This year with more depth Shoji is more quick to make substituitons when a player is struggling." That seems like a contradiction to me. If that have that much depth this year, why would it be a problem to let someone sit out 2 or 3 weeks if that's what it would take to get them healthy? Maybe 2 or 3 weeks would not do it? Maybe they really don't have the depth? Something doesn't seem to connect for me.
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Hawaii
Oct 3, 2005 21:33:47 GMT -5
Post by 808 on Oct 3, 2005 21:33:47 GMT -5
Something doesn't seem to connect for me. Me too. I, too, wondered why they didn't just have Hittle sit and let her ankle heal, instead of having her play backrow for two weeks. It would have been a good chance to have Keefe (and Arnott) get some work in knowing that there's no one waiting in the wings. They would have had to step it up for the good of the team. Unless, like you say, it really was a situation that 2 weeks of complete rest wouldn't have done her any good.
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Oct 3, 2005 23:45:08 GMT -5
Post by bowman on Oct 3, 2005 23:45:08 GMT -5
Something doesn't seem to connect for me. Me too. I, too, wondered why they didn't just have Hittle sit and let her ankle heal, instead of having her play backrow for two weeks. It would have been a good chance to have Keefe (and Arnott) get some work in knowing that there's no one waiting in the wings. They would have had to step it up for the good of the team. Unless, like you say, it really was a situation that 2 weeks of complete rest wouldn't have done her any good. AMEN... i'm anxious to see more of keefe.. and really, with matches that are in the bag... more of thomas. personally, i think dave is trying so hard to find the right starting mix now that until thats settled, these two will not see very much playing time.
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Hawaii
Oct 4, 2005 0:19:27 GMT -5
Post by Rus Socoli on Oct 4, 2005 0:19:27 GMT -5
Oh Hawaii, my Hawaii Skies are blue, the seas a thousand hues of green In Hawaii, waves are breaking In its rise and fall they call Call for me Sorry, just couldn't resist.
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Hawaii
Oct 4, 2005 8:21:29 GMT -5
Post by Psychopotamus on Oct 4, 2005 8:21:29 GMT -5
They can't afford to sit out a player two weeks? If it two potential starters, I don't see how they can afford NOT to sit them out two weeks and get them back to 100%.
Hawaii is all but a lock to make it to the NCAAs. Why wouldn't you want your team to be 100% by then? The idea is still to win a national title, right? I could see thinking like that if they were, say, undefeated right now, but after suffering those early losses, what is the point at playing them right now?
That is just plain silly. I feel smoke being blown... somewhere it shouldn't be.
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Hawaii
Oct 4, 2005 8:34:54 GMT -5
Post by OverAndUnder on Oct 4, 2005 8:34:54 GMT -5
Shoji has said that Hittle and Mason will probably never be 100% this season. The only way to get them to 100% is for two weeks or more of rest, and they simply can't afford to do that right now. Take your pick: 1) forcing your "difference makers" to play through injuries so you can beat, um Idaho and Boise State, BUT thus ensuring those players will have difficulty playing back-to-back WAC tournament matches leaving the possibility of not getting the automatic berth or any berth for that matter 2) a few weeks of rest for your "difference makers", and maybe some close games or a loss right now (because face it, this year's Wahine, however disorganized, are still going to beat most of their conference) BUT returning those two players at 99.999%, winning out the season and getting that automatic conference champion invite to the NCAAs, and having your team firing on all cylinders in the postseason.
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Hawaii
Oct 4, 2005 12:11:47 GMT -5
Post by gobows on Oct 4, 2005 12:11:47 GMT -5
We have about six weeks left of play before things get serious. Sit out two of the best hitters for two weeks......then how long for them to get back up to speed? Not sure that would work either. Just bad luck all the way around!!!
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Hawaii
Oct 4, 2005 13:13:44 GMT -5
Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 4, 2005 13:13:44 GMT -5
Take your pick: 1) forcing your "difference makers" to play through injuries so you can beat, um Idaho and Boise State Just what the hell are you implying here?
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