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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 6, 2024 17:34:05 GMT -5
Chaim just isn't good at anything. At this point in his career he isn't above average in any skill and most of his skills, particularly his defense and mobility are way below average. you always seem to blame Chaim for their lack of success. But Tri hasn't done anything to help this team either. In fact most teams serve him and he hasn't been able to sideout on a consistant level. Yes, Tri has a higher ceiling but he's also very error prone. In that USA3 v USA4 match, Tri carried Cri/Chaim and Chaim blew it with errors/terrible 1 over Tri had big serves and blocks to keep the team in it
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 6, 2024 17:57:24 GMT -5
Assuming it's his back, that isn't something that can be reversed. Tiger Woods couldn't do it, Phil Mickelsen couldn't do it, and they had tens of millions of dollars to throw at the problems. It may be that the Sørum who was the equal of Anders is no more. As with those two golf greats, it's sad to see. Sorum was never the equal of Mol. Only b/c the best defender on tour will never be the equal (in importance, or to put it another way, correlated to win %) of the best blocker on tour. Who was a better defender than Sørum from 2017 through 2021? Not Krasilnikov. Close though. Who else would you propose?
2023 though we've got de Groot and Ahman, possibly Perusic who are playing great.
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Post by VT Karen on Mar 6, 2024 18:21:07 GMT -5
you always seem to blame Chaim for their lack of success. But Tri hasn't done anything to help this team either. In fact most teams serve him and he hasn't been able to sideout on a consistant level. Yes, Tri has a higher ceiling but he's also very error prone. In that USA3 v USA4 match, Tri carried Cri/Chaim and Chaim blew it with errors/terrible 1 over Tri had big serves and blocks to keep the team in it Okay I need to watch this match. Was Chaim that bad?
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Post by guest2 on Mar 7, 2024 5:01:55 GMT -5
Sorum was never the equal of Mol. Only b/c the best defender on tour will never be the equal (in importance, or to put it another way, correlated to win %) of the best blocker on tour. Who was a better defender than Sørum from 2017 through 2021? Not Krasilnikov. Close though. Who else would you propose? 2023 though we've got de Groot and Ahman, possibly Perusic who are playing great.
I think there are two things. 1. if Sorum was the best defender, it wasn't by a lot. Ahmed when he was playing well was right there IMO and some others. I agree with you that the block is more important and also Mol was the best blocker by miles. Sorum, if he was the best defender, was incrementally better. 2. as a sideout player they were never close. For teams playing conventional styles, Mol has been the best sideout player for a very long time.
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Post by swift on Mar 7, 2024 5:05:54 GMT -5
Assuming it's his back, that isn't something that can be reversed. Tiger Woods couldn't do it, Phil Mickelsen couldn't do it, and they had tens of millions of dollars to throw at the problems. It may be that the Sørum who was the equal of Anders is no more. As with those two golf greats, it's sad to see. Sorum was never the equal of Mol. But he was definitely better. His drop off, and the fact that Anders' blocking isn't what it was, has me questioning if they will ever be the clear no. 1s again. Just like with Phil, Randy, Whitmarsh, etc. any time a new and dominant blocker comes on the scene, players start figuring out how to attack them. They still get their blocks, but if they don't continue to improve, their impact diminishes. I feel like Anders is at that stage now. Still getting a lot of blocks, but when was the last time you remember him really dominating a top team at the net? The way it seemed like he did almost every match a few years ago There was a time though when Sorum was an absolute sideout machine. At that time he was mainly hitting hard angle or line. These days seem to be gone. Probably due to his injuries. He's still good but not quite as good anymore as he was. He's relying more on shots nowadays and you can pick those up easier than defending his hard driven balls that don't have a lot of topspin and almost float a bit. I agree that Mol hasn't been as dominant at the net lately. Maybe because of the more complex offense a lot of teams are running and therefore Mol needs to move around more. Maybe offensive players have also become a little bit better (or bigger) or more adjusted to hitting against Mol in the meantime. I'm not sure. Against the Netherlands he got a lot of touches but not a lot of blocks. Their problem seems to be that if they don't get a lot of blocks they don't get a lot of stops. Because Sorum just isn't the best defender or out of system player imo. Now add Mol's unforced errors every now and then and Sorum's slightly weaker sideout game and you lose more games. I think this is also the reason why Mol is trying to generate more offense/pressure from the service line with his jump serve. They know they need to do more. A few years ago when they were unbeatable they didn't even need any service pressure because of Mol's blocking and Sorum's high sideout percentage.
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Post by mrknuckle on Mar 7, 2024 9:15:02 GMT -5
It is incredible how Sorum can perform at a reasonable level despite his injuries. He is moving slowly in his approach and seems to do shots like 70 percent of the time. That is almost unheard of. Shows that his shots are very accurate. But of course that playstyle will never be among the best. Spikes are better than shots.
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Post by tamz on Mar 7, 2024 11:07:24 GMT -5
Treo off to a disastrous start against NED.
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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 7, 2024 11:11:16 GMT -5
In that USA3 v USA4 match, Tri carried Cri/Chaim and Chaim blew it with errors/terrible 1 over Tri had big serves and blocks to keep the team in it Okay I need to watch this match. Was Chaim that bad? I think so, now it's the time to step up and not fold. Time to make plays and not blow it. Crunch time wins close matches, gotta be mentally strong and execute
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Post by blackmambabeto on Mar 7, 2024 11:15:00 GMT -5
Treo off to a disastrous start against NED. hopefully this goes 3
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Post by ajm on Mar 7, 2024 13:31:44 GMT -5
Maybe I’m overstating it, but watching the Swedes go up against the quick offense of Lupo/Rossi feels like it might be a transcendent moment in this sport.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Mar 7, 2024 14:15:00 GMT -5
Lupo/Rossi go home losing all three of their final sets by two points, 30-28 today. Long flight
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Mar 7, 2024 15:11:26 GMT -5
Treo get SVDV in the Round of 12. Let's go boysssss, send him home.
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 7, 2024 15:36:38 GMT -5
The more I watch de Groot, the more I'm starting to think he is better than even Perusic. I think he and Ahman are the preeminent Littles in the game right now, just in very different ways. Even if Krasilnikov comes back, no way he still has the cat like reflexes de Groot is just growing into right now. Plus de Groot appears to cover ground as well as Ahman does.
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 7, 2024 15:56:15 GMT -5
Treo get SVDV in the Round of 12. Let's go boysssss, send him home. best possible matchup... though I won't be watching in protest of the felon playing.
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Post by burnabyjo on Mar 7, 2024 18:21:06 GMT -5
The more I watch de Groot, the more I'm starting to think he is better than even Perusic. I think he and Ahman are the preeminent Littles in the game right now, just in very different ways. Even if Krasilnikov comes back, no way he still has the cat like reflexes de Groot is just growing into right now. Plus de Groot appears to cover ground as well as Ahman does. agreed, I think Ahman is a bit better with the range and versatility he has from years of jump setting and attacking 2 balls in every scenario we can imagine. De groot is great too though.
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