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Post by T Gap on Feb 17, 2024 16:57:47 GMT -5
Legitimate trial, got it. The evidence and witnesses in Trump's document case is all from: his own audio and video; testimony, texts, emails, photo and video from his family and people he hired and appointed. It's being tried in Florida with a Republican judge who joined the Republican Federalist Society 25 years ago who DONALD.TRUMP. APPOINTED. Is that trial legitimate? If not, exactly WHAT SCENARIO would? "I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any votes!" - Donald J.Trump Oh my God, you actually managed to keep it brief T/gaping hole. As usual, you have no answer, Cult Boy
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Post by T Gap on Feb 17, 2024 17:00:15 GMT -5
Legitimate trial, got it. The evidence and witnesses in Trump's document case is all from: his own audio and video; testimony, texts, emails, photo and video from his family and people he hired and appointed. It's being tried in Florida with a Republican judge who joined the Republican Federalist Society 25 years ago who DONALD.TRUMP. APPOINTED. Is that trial legitimate? If not, exactly WHAT SCENARIO would? "I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any votes!" - Donald J.Trump Oh my God, you actually managed to keep it brief T/gaping hole. Is that trial legitimate? I'll wait for your non answer
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Post by T Gap on Feb 17, 2024 17:11:54 GMT -5
Legitimate trial, got it. The evidence and witnesses in Trump's document case is all from: his own audio and video; testimony, texts, emails, photo and video from his family and people he hired and appointed. It's being tried in Florida with a Republican judge who joined the Republican Federalist Society 25 years ago who DONALD.TRUMP. APPOINTED. Is that trial legitimate? If not, exactly WHAT SCENARIO would? "I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any votes!" - Donald J.Trump Oh my God, you actually managed to keep it brief T/gaping hole. Red State, Trump appointed judge. You can't answer because you're in a cult. Same scenario with Blue State, Biden appointed judge: I'd respect the verdict. It's not difficult.
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Post by BearClause on Feb 17, 2024 17:42:35 GMT -5
He loved urine so much that he sold his own Trump branded urine test. I suppose he could try and sell more of those.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 17, 2024 18:57:49 GMT -5
He loved urine so much that he sold his own Trump branded urine test. I suppose he could try and sell more of those. I think the saddest thing is you are actually an example, a parent to children. And look how petty and nasty you are. You Democrats truly need some deep counseling. This is way past the norm. Your poor kids. They’re gonna grow up just like you.
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Post by bobinmd on Feb 17, 2024 19:14:42 GMT -5
Oh my God, you actually managed to keep it brief T/gaping hole. As usual, you have no answer, Cult Boy No answer to a lot of things here. He was asked what it was you posted that was inaccurate. Instead he loves the adolescent distraction attempts. 388 M + +
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 17, 2024 19:15:33 GMT -5
He loved urine so much that he sold his own Trump branded urine test. I suppose he could try and sell more of those. I think the saddest thing is you are actually an example, a parent to children. And look how petty and nasty you are. You Democrats truly need some deep counseling. This is way past the norm. Your poor kids. They’re gonna grow up just like you. Way past the norm? LOL You excuse Trump's massive fraud as what every business person does. The thing is, this law is the same law that Trump was accused of violating when he was sued over Trump University, a case which he quietly settled. Trump doesn't care about the law. In this case, his financial statement valued a property that was appraised at $30M at $161M, and even after he requested a new appraisal because he learned that he couldn't develop the property, the appraisal came back at $5M, and Trump still continued to value it at $161M on his financial statements. That's just outright fraud, no way around it.
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Post by akbar on Feb 18, 2024 10:27:36 GMT -5
Insider.com
Knew he was being watched The AG's office believes Trump knew he was under investigation in March 2019. That's when the AG served her very first fraud-probe subpoena, demanding records from Trump's favorite lender, Deutsche Bank.
Two months later, Trump's outside accountants, Mazars USA, got a subpoena. Cushman-Wakefield, Trump's go-to assessor, got one a month later. Trump Org lawyers met with the AG's office regarding these subpoenas throughout the summer of 2019.
Yet the following Halloween, the AG's office has said, Trump still issued an intentionally inflated 2019 net worth statement, claiming he was worth $6.1 billion, well over twice his actual worth. The statement's accuracy was certified by Donald Trump, Jr., and by then-Trump Org CFO Allen Weisselberg.
erwise occupied. But Trump continued frauding over the next four years, as a civilian, inflating his net worth in official banking documents even as the AG's investigation pressed forward, the judge found.
In 2020, more AG subpoenas snowed down. The Trump Organization got one. So did the company's leadership, from Trump on down to Patrick Birney, an assistant finance guy, trial evidence showed.
(Some fun 2020 deposition facts: responding to his subpoena, Birney memorably swore that Weisselberg, the Trump Org CFO, told him, "Donald likes to see it go up." And Weisselberg and Eric Trump invoked the Fifth Amendment more than 500 times each in their subpoena-ordered depositions.)
Still, even as the AG's microscope focused ever tighter, the 2020 financial statement issued at year's end again more than doubled Trump's net worth, saying it was $4.7 billion rather than $2.2 billion, as officials say it actually was.
In 2021, Trump kept at it, the AG argued, even as Mazars very publicly dropped Trump as a client. Even as Weisselberg and Trump Org were indicted on payroll-tax fraud charges that a jury would convict on a year later.
"While the investigation was ongoing, defendants continued their efforts to actively conceal their fraud," state lawyers said in a filing last month.
That includes Trump "failing to turn over more than one million pages of documents" in defiance of an AG subpoena, and "refusing to sit for testimony absent court order."
On October 29, 2021 — AG microscope be damned — Trump claimed that he was worth $4.5 billion, nearly $2 billion higher than his actual worth. And Eric Trump certified the claim as accurate.
"Defendants were aware of our investigation since the middle of March 2019," Andrew Amer, a lawyer for James, said in closings.
But over the next three years, "they issued three more statements of financial condition with the fraud continuing, while they knew they were under investigation for this activity."
Not his first fraud rodeo It wasn't even Trump's first fraud rodeo, the AG's lawyers have noted.
In previous years, Trump has settled allegations of fraud involving the Trump Foundation, Trump University, and the 2017 Inaugural Committee, Amer pointed out in closings.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 18, 2024 12:58:27 GMT -5
Why do democrats always remind me of greasy oily used car salesman.
Was one single bank defrauded?
Was a single bank unhappy with the Trump organization?
Like every other business the Trump organization was trying to get a more competitive interest rate. Since they had always paid their loans back in spades and even sometimes before the deadline, the banks considered them very solid customers. So who did they defraud? Absolutely no one.
With a property down the street from Mar-a-Lago bringing $200 million, it’s obviously it’s obvious the Trump organization did not overinflate Mar-a-Lago worth.
This is all about politics. If Donald Trump was not a candidate nor had he ran for president this wouldn’t even be an issue. People like Akbar, are as worthless and useless to this country is a bag of %*$#.
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Post by longboards on Feb 18, 2024 13:01:33 GMT -5
Why do democrats always remind me of greasy oily used car salesman. Was one single bank defrauded? Was a single bank unhappy with the Trump organization? Like every other business the Trump organization was trying to get a more competitive interest rate. Since they had always paid their loans back in spades and even sometimes before the deadline, the banks considered them very solid customers. So who did they defraud? Absolutely no one. With a property down the street from Mar-a-Lago bringing $200 million, it’s obviously it’s obvious the Trump organization did not overinflate Mar-a-Lago worth. This is all about politics. If Donald Trump was not a candidate nor had he ran for president this wouldn’t even be an issue. People like Akbar, are as worthless and useless to this country is a bag of %*$#. "Since they had always paid their loans back in spades and even sometimes before the deadline, the banks considered them very solid customers." I don't think you know what going bankrupt entails...
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 18, 2024 13:07:49 GMT -5
Why do democrats always remind me of greasy oily used car salesman. Was one single bank defrauded? Was a single bank unhappy with the Trump organization? Like every other business the Trump organization was trying to get a more competitive interest rate. Since they had always paid their loans back in spades and even sometimes before the deadline, the banks considered them very solid customers. So who did they defraud? Absolutely no one. With a property down the street from Mar-a-Lago bringing $200 million, it’s obviously it’s obvious the Trump organization did not overinflate Mar-a-Lago worth. This is all about politics. If Donald Trump was not a candidate nor had he ran for president this wouldn’t even be an issue. People like Akbar, are as worthless and useless to this country is a bag of %*$#. Yes, the banks who gave him loans were defrauded, because the loan terms they gave him were based on inaccurate and fraudulent information. Mar-a-Lago has a permanent deed restriction which limits its uses, so it is likely not a valid comparision to the $200 million dollar property down the street. As usual, Trump is valuing the property at its best possible imagined use, even though that use is not possible. The same thing happened with his Silver Springs property that was valued by him and Eric at $161M, when it was actually 5M. Again, the only argument Trump has is that it's political and that everyone does what he does, except that eveyone doesn't do what he does.
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Post by bobinmd on Feb 18, 2024 13:09:15 GMT -5
Why do democrats always remind me of greasy oily used car salesman. Was one single bank defrauded? Was a single bank unhappy with the Trump organization? Like every other business the Trump organization was trying to get a more competitive interest rate. Since they had always paid their loans back in spades and even sometimes before the deadline, the banks considered them very solid customers. So who did they defraud? Absolutely no one. With a property down the street from Mar-a-Lago bringing $200 million, it’s obviously it’s obvious the Trump organization did not overinflate Mar-a-Lago worth. This is all about politics. If Donald Trump was not a candidate nor had he ran for president this wouldn’t even be an issue. People like Akbar, are as worthless and useless to this country is a bag of %*$#. That’s a whole lot of ignoring. If Orange had not done all those things this wouldn’t even be an issue. His co-conspirators will testify and that’s just his RICO case, but focus on dresses Hol. 355 + + M. ✝️
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Post by jsquare on Feb 18, 2024 13:10:10 GMT -5
Why do democrats always remind me of greasy oily used car salesman. Was one single bank defrauded? Was a single bank unhappy with the Trump organization? Like every other business the Trump organization was trying to get a more competitive interest rate. Since they had always paid their loans back in spades and even sometimes before the deadline, the banks considered them very solid customers. So who did they defraud? Absolutely no one. With a property down the street from Mar-a-Lago bringing $200 million, it’s obviously it’s obvious the Trump organization did not overinflate Mar-a-Lago worth. This is all about politics. If Donald Trump was not a candidate nor had he ran for president this wouldn’t even be an issue. People like Akbar, are as worthless and useless to this country is a bag of %*$#. All the banks that did business with Trump were defrauded. He obtained favorable interest rates because of his inflated appraisals. Banks lost money because of FRAUD. This has nothing to do with Democrats.
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Post by BearClause on Feb 18, 2024 13:18:05 GMT -5
Why do democrats always remind me of greasy oily used car salesman. Was one single bank defrauded? Was a single bank unhappy with the Trump organization? Like every other business the Trump organization was trying to get a more competitive interest rate. Since they had always paid their loans back in spades and even sometimes before the deadline, the banks considered them very solid customers. So who did they defraud? Absolutely no one. With a property down the street from Mar-a-Lago bringing $200 million, it’s obviously it’s obvious the Trump organization did not overinflate Mar-a-Lago worth. This is all about politics. If Donald Trump was not a candidate nor had he ran for president this wouldn’t even be an issue. People like Akbar, are as worthless and useless to this country is a bag of %*$#. "Since they had always paid their loans back in spades and even sometimes before the deadline, the banks considered them very solid customers." I don't think you know what going bankrupt entails... I would point out that Deutsche Bank did drop Trump as a customer for any new loans. And in the past they did consider him a poor risk but lent to him anyways. A lot of their public statements on Trump seem more like damage control, but it’s telling that they simply won’t provide new loans to Trump. www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/12/deutsche-bank-severs-ties-with-donald-trumpThe relationship has survived various scandals. In 2008, Trump sued the bank’s real estate division after he defaulted on a $40m repayment, used to fund the construction of the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago. He accused Deutsche of co-causing the financial crisis and demanded $3bn in compensation. Instead of dumping him as a client, Deutsche’s private wealth division stepped in and loaned him more money to pay off the existing debt. Deutsche has resisted efforts by Democrats in the House and Senate to explain its relationship with Trump – and to clarify if Russian state banks or entities underwrote some of his debts.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 18, 2024 17:47:22 GMT -5
Why do democrats always remind me of greasy oily used car salesman. Was one single bank defrauded? Was a single bank unhappy with the Trump organization? Like every other business the Trump organization was trying to get a more competitive interest rate. Since they had always paid their loans back in spades and even sometimes before the deadline, the banks considered them very solid customers. So who did they defraud? Absolutely no one. With a property down the street from Mar-a-Lago bringing $200 million, it’s obviously it’s obvious the Trump organization did not overinflate Mar-a-Lago worth. This is all about politics. If Donald Trump was not a candidate nor had he ran for president this wouldn’t even be an issue. People like Akbar, are as worthless and useless to this country is a bag of %*$#. "Since they had always paid their loans back in spades and even sometimes before the deadline, the banks considered them very solid customers." I don't think you know what going bankrupt entails... that’s not what this investigation was about remember? It was about the businesses based in New York. And they never defaulted on the loan. So how can you prosecute someone who is never defaulted or Defrauded anybody. In fact they couldn’t find a single bank or business that was unhappy with the Trump organization. In other words you’re a bunch of political hacks who need your balls racked
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