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Post by jwvolley on Apr 29, 2024 13:28:17 GMT -5
I’m just fascinated that any ego in the world would need that much stroking that you actually start a thread about yourselves and then never stop talking about it.? What kind of self centeredness is that? holiday you start at least 3 pointless, misleading threads an hour in off the net lmao. 😭😂
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Post by rjaege on Apr 29, 2024 13:48:15 GMT -5
I see a lot of “cook won’t do anything”… yet isn’t that the absolute precedent lol? Texas’s Micaya White was pulled over by the police while driving, failed a sobriety test, smelled heavily of alcohol, and admitted to underage drinking and driving and yet, she played with the collegiate national team in the spring and didn’t miss a single match the following year with Texas... It’s literally how every coach has operated in the past. Beyond that I advocated for her forgiveness. She was a phenomenal player. She’s not defined by one dumb mistake. She grew from it. There's a difference between a dui, and a dui while also obstructing and having a fake id. People legitimately go to jail all the time for what she did. The obstructing charge isn't even eligible for pre-trial diversion like the others. Wrong about NE law. Obstructing in this context means the arresting officer didn't feel she followed his instructions well or quickly enough. A misdemeanor that is eligible for diversion. It is much different and less serious than resisting arrest, also a misdemeanor. There is a degree of subjectivity to the obstruction charge, thus it is often dropped.
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Post by babybacksets on Apr 29, 2024 14:12:51 GMT -5
42 pages
Bunch of absolute crazy people
Turn tf up Harper, be outsssiiiide bb girl
Just don’t get behind the wheel again lol
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Post by statsqueen on Apr 29, 2024 14:48:58 GMT -5
I’m just fascinated that any ego in the world would need that much stroking that you actually start a thread about yourselves and then never stop talking about it.? What kind of self centeredness is that? holiday you start at least 3 pointless, misleading threads an hour in off the net lmao. My analytics are proprietary. If you're offering to pay my consulting fee, I'm happy to share more. Otherwise, I'm not going to teach you how to think about volleyball and conduct predictive analytics for free.
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Post by jwvolley on Apr 29, 2024 15:14:40 GMT -5
Translation: he’s got nothing.
Anyways
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Post by clivehusker on Apr 29, 2024 16:17:43 GMT -5
and already has had dozens of articles come out about it in less than 24 hours. That is more than would happen to anyone on here if they were in her shoes. I'm not sure what else people want from this - for harper to face added consequences bc she happens to be an athlete with a following? Why can't she just face the same consequences you and I would? It is about the team/NCAA letting her off the hook. Which they will.
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Post by clivehusker on Apr 29, 2024 16:21:27 GMT -5
Does she get a punishment from the ncaa/university you think ? This isn’t (and shouldn’t be) the NCAA’s problem. It should be. And it is the NCAA's fault it should be. The Transfer Portal. Right now teams are walking on eggshells around players, because upset them too much they transfer. Which is why the NCAA should dole out the punishments not schools, that follow them to where they transfer. Player gets suspended by the NCAA, it follows them.
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Post by rjaege on Apr 29, 2024 16:56:43 GMT -5
This isn’t (and shouldn’t be) the NCAA’s problem. It should be. And it is the NCAA's fault it should be. The Transfer Portal. Right now teams are walking on eggshells around players, because upset them too much they transfer. Which is why the NCAA should dole out the punishments not schools, that follow them to where they transfer. Player gets suspended by the NCAA, it follows them. The NCAA has no legal standing to punish athletes for traffic, misdemeanor, or felony violations. Nor should they. It would be a significant violation of SA civil rights. Violations of law are up to the DA's and AG's to prosecute. The accused have rights including a presumption of innocence under our legal system.
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Post by usavolleyball on Apr 29, 2024 16:58:56 GMT -5
This isn’t (and shouldn’t be) the NCAA’s problem. It should be. And it is the NCAA's fault it should be. The Transfer Portal. Right now teams are walking on eggshells around players, because upset them too much they transfer. Which is why the NCAA should dole out the punishments not schools, that follow them to where they transfer. Player gets suspended by the NCAA, it follows them. The NCAA can hardly enforce any of their own rules these days, and you want them stepping in regarding matters that get fully adjudicated in the court system? That is, odd.
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Post by stanfordvb on Apr 29, 2024 17:37:16 GMT -5
holiday you start at least 3 pointless, misleading threads an hour in off the net lmao. My analytics are proprietary. If you're offering to pay my consulting fee, I'm happy to share more. Otherwise, I'm not going to teach you how to think about volleyball and conduct predictive analytics for free. Hey again!! You didn't answer me earlier... I want you to defend or explain why harper is a 'sus passer' and not up to par with being 6-ro with the stats from her season. You keep ignoring every post that has asked for further explanation OR you could admit you had no clue what u were talking about. I'll take either
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Post by photos1 on Apr 29, 2024 18:04:37 GMT -5
The NCAA has no legal standing to punish athletes for traffic, misdemeanor, or felony violations. Nor should they. It would be a significant violation of SA civil rights. Violations of law are up to the DA's and AG's to prosecute. The accused have rights including a presumption of innocence under our legal system. What??? She should be suspended until further investigation…many other leagues do the same thing…its optics…whats good for the league and not doing anything is bad Achtung, achtung, achtung, show me your papers….📑 …what other leagues are suspending players for out of season actions? The Nazi conference in ‘38 for the paper hanger’s Germany? ‘77 Communist conference in Cambodia/Pol Pot? ‘81 Romanian Dictator conference with Ceaușescu? That’s just silly… 🏐
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 29, 2024 18:47:57 GMT -5
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Post by photos1 on Apr 29, 2024 19:18:38 GMT -5
Just a point of context, the NFL is a professional league and there is a personal behavior clause written into every contract. In addition to many NFL players falling into that clause in their contracts, some like Peterson go on TV and try to defend their actions (in Peterson’s case, beating the hell out of children with a stick). There is no personal behavior clause in a NCAA letter of intent or scholarship papers. So it’s really apple’s and oranges… I wonder how many of your friends or co-workers have received a DUI…did they get fired? Did you unfriend them for this deviant behavior? This is so amusing watching the teatotalers calling for the lynching… yes, lynching… sorry🏐
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Post by n00b on Apr 29, 2024 19:37:38 GMT -5
Just a point of context, the NFL is a professional league and there is a personal behavior clause written into every contract. In addition to many NFL players falling into that clause in their contracts, some like Peterson go on TV and try to defend their actions (in Peterson’s case, beating the hell out of children with a stick). There is no personal behavior clause in a NCAA letter of intent or scholarship papers. So it’s really apple’s and oranges… I wonder how many of your friends or co-workers have received a DUI…did they get fired? Did you unfriend them for this deviant behavior? This is so amusing watching the teatotalers calling for the lynching… yes, lynching… sorry🏐 I'm not saying it should happen here. But athletes have definitely been kicked off teams for less. Violation of team rules.
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Post by biodogtexas on Apr 29, 2024 20:43:25 GMT -5
There's a difference between a dui, and a dui while also obstructing and having a fake id. People legitimately go to jail all the time for what she did. The obstructing charge isn't even eligible for pre-trial diversion like the others. Wrong about NE law. Obstructing in this context means the arresting officer didn't feel she followed his instructions well or quickly enough. A misdemeanor that is eligible for diversion. It is much different and less serious than resisting arrest, also a misdemeanor. There is a degree of subjectivity to the obstruction charge, thus it is often dropped. Well, i'm certainly no expert so i definitely could be wrong, but I got it from the University of Nebraska itself I have no doubt charges might get dropped. The law is always applied equally to everyone, afterall.
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