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Post by gatekeeper on May 4, 2024 11:02:04 GMT -5
I’m surprised the video of the DUI hasn’t been released. Do we think that will ever be public?
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on May 4, 2024 11:02:06 GMT -5
This is why John Cook should’ve disciplined Harper the first time, could’ve prevented this. Oh yes, the ol’ DUI being a gateway to shoplifting! *eyeroll*I mean…. Yes . She’s obviously in a crisis right now, some time apart from the sport would’ve done a lot. *eye rolls too*
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Post by gazelle1 on May 4, 2024 11:06:56 GMT -5
Osborne actually believed he was doing the right thing by keeping him in the fold. That of course can be debated. What Osborne was afraid of if he kicked him off, ironically was exactly what happened. I think Osborne thought Phillips could help him win another national title. And he did, even though they probably didn't need him (to be fair, the game with undefeated Florida was thought to be a close matchup before the game, so it's not clear that Osborne knew that Phillips wouldn't be needed). If he was a third-stringer, I think there's no doubt that he would have been kicked off the team permanently. But stars get treated differently than other players. Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this isn't true. Osborne didn't keep Phillips on the team to win another title. He didn't need Phillips to win a title that year. Osborne kept Phillips on because he knew Phillips had no family (he was an orphan), no friends outside of the football team, and no structure or institution other than the football team that could moderate Phillips and perhaps keep Phillips focused on something positive. Ultimately, there was nothing that could keep Phillips from descending into a dark path, but Osborne tried. Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this.
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 4, 2024 11:25:25 GMT -5
I think Osborne thought Phillips could help him win another national title. And he did, even though they probably didn't need him (to be fair, the game with undefeated Florida was thought to be a close matchup before the game, so it's not clear that Osborne knew that Phillips wouldn't be needed). If he was a third-stringer, I think there's no doubt that he would have been kicked off the team permanently. But stars get treated differently than other players. Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this isn't true. Osborne didn't keep Phillips on the team to win another title. He didn't need Phillips to win a title that year. Osborne kept Phillips on because he knew Phillips had no family (he was an orphan), no friends outside of the football team, and no structure or institution other than the football team that could moderate Phillips and perhaps keep Phillips focused on something positive. Ultimately, there was nothing that could keep Phillips from descending into a dark path, but Osborne tried. Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this. I’m confused, didn’t I just say that?
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Post by bbg95 on May 4, 2024 11:28:19 GMT -5
I think Osborne thought Phillips could help him win another national title. And he did, even though they probably didn't need him (to be fair, the game with undefeated Florida was thought to be a close matchup before the game, so it's not clear that Osborne knew that Phillips wouldn't be needed). If he was a third-stringer, I think there's no doubt that he would have been kicked off the team permanently. But stars get treated differently than other players. Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this isn't true. Osborne didn't keep Phillips on the team to win another title. He didn't need Phillips to win a title that year. Osborne kept Phillips on because he knew Phillips had no family (he was an orphan), no friends outside of the football team, and no structure or institution other than the football team that could moderate Phillips and perhaps keep Phillips focused on something positive. Ultimately, there was nothing that could keep Phillips from descending into a dark path, but Osborne tried. Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this. Lol. Again, it wasn't actually clear at the time (not in retrospect) if Phillips was needed. I remember because I was living in Lincoln in 1995. If you don't think that a star player like Phillips was treated differently than some third-stringer who never played would be, then you're naive.
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Post by gazelle1 on May 4, 2024 11:31:00 GMT -5
Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this isn't true. Osborne didn't keep Phillips on the team to win another title. He didn't need Phillips to win a title that year. Osborne kept Phillips on because he knew Phillips had no family (he was an orphan), no friends outside of the football team, and no structure or institution other than the football team that could moderate Phillips and perhaps keep Phillips focused on something positive. Ultimately, there was nothing that could keep Phillips from descending into a dark path, but Osborne tried. Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this. I’m confused, didn’t I just say that? Yes, you did. Sorry. I was responding to bbg95.
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Post by gazelle1 on May 4, 2024 11:34:34 GMT -5
Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this isn't true. Osborne didn't keep Phillips on the team to win another title. He didn't need Phillips to win a title that year. Osborne kept Phillips on because he knew Phillips had no family (he was an orphan), no friends outside of the football team, and no structure or institution other than the football team that could moderate Phillips and perhaps keep Phillips focused on something positive. Ultimately, there was nothing that could keep Phillips from descending into a dark path, but Osborne tried. Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this. Lol. Again, it wasn't actually clear at the time if Phillips was needed at the time. I remember because I was living in Lincoln in 1995. Nebraska's 3 toughest games that year were against Kansas, Kansas State, and Colorado (all of whom finished in the top 10 in the final AP poll) They played all those games without Phillips. That Nebraska team was stacked at all the positions, but particularly at the running back position. They didn't need Phillps to win the national title that year, and Osborne's motivation for keeping Phillips on the team had nothing to do with winning games.
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Post by bbg95 on May 4, 2024 11:39:08 GMT -5
Lol. Again, it wasn't actually clear at the time if Phillips was needed. I remember because I was living in Lincoln in 1995. Nebraska's 3 toughest games that year were against Kansas, Kansas State, and Colorado (all of whom finished in the top 10 in the final AP poll) They played all those games without Phillips. That Nebraska team was stacked at all the positions, but particularly at the running back position. They didn't need Phillps to win the national title that year, and Osborne's motivation for keeping Phillips on the team had nothing to do with winning games. The naivete of Nebraska fans about this is hilarious (and it's not like Phillips was the only player to get arrested). Continue to believe what you want. In the real world, those of us who are not blinded by team loyalty know that Osborne was an amazing coach but also not above special treatment for stars.
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Post by gazelle1 on May 4, 2024 11:44:37 GMT -5
Nebraska's 3 toughest games that year were against Kansas, Kansas State, and Colorado (all of whom finished in the top 10 in the final AP poll) They played all those games without Phillips. That Nebraska team was stacked at all the positions, but particularly at the running back position. They didn't need Phillps to win the national title that year, and Osborne's motivation for keeping Phillips on the team had nothing to do with winning games. The naivete of Nebraska fans about this is hilarious (and it's not like Phillips was the only player to get arrested). Continue to believe what you want. I have 2 friends (whose opinions I trust) who know the Osborne family well. They agree with what I am saying here. I feel quite confident in saying what I did about Osborne's motivations regarding Phillips. You can believe what you want. It's no skin off my back.
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Post by jcvball22 on May 4, 2024 12:07:41 GMT -5
I really feel bad for her teammates…Her actions affect everyone around her and no doubt everyone on the team has a pit in their stomach about this. Volleyball is an extracaricular team sport and what an individual who’s a member of that team does has ripple effects on everyone around her and the school itself. Hopefully the school and the athletic department handle it appropriately. My personal opinion no one cares about? First thing to go as a consequence is any extra activities, that means volleyball. Time to focus on school, herself, and maturing into an adult. Sometimes everything that comes with being a student athlete, ESPECIALLY now with NIL money, is just too much for some people. Whatever is going on, might be best to go back to a more simple life without the celebrity of Nebraska volleyball and focus on the things that really matter. Agree with first paragraph, but not 2nd. At this point, the primary career path HM has professed is WVB. Don't agree with pulling that away from her at this point. She has clearly damaged her pro WVB prospects in the short term, but she can change and amend that. However, in the end, she is the one that must implement the corrective behavior required. Well too freaking bad. She can profess any career path she wants. Plenty of people don't get to work in their preferred career path, many of them because of criminal records, which she will now have. Quite a few countries will not authorize a working visa (which she would need to play overseas) due to a DUI. Adding to that with petty theft charges isn't going to help. She is no longer a minor, so those are going to be on her record for a while. And it's not like she can just transfer to another school, as those charges are a discretionary disqualifying item for admissions. Do I think she should be permanently banned from the team/volleyball? Absolutely not. But she should definitely be taking a (redshirt) year away from the program to get her crap together, get whatever help she needs, and sort through her legal issues and any ramifications from them. Coddling her and telling her she is special because she is an amazing volleyball player is likely, at least, a partially contributing factor to all of this. Now, it's time to grow up.
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Post by northwoods on May 4, 2024 12:18:59 GMT -5
It’s Nebraska Athletics….they rolled with Lawrence Phillips until he couldn’t help them win😉. She’ll get all the support she needs if she can do that, then she will quietly move on in a fashion that is posed as mutuality beneficial…. Lol, they rolled with Lawrence Phillips the whole way. He was reinstated for the last four games in 1995 and started the Fiesta Bowl against Florida. They did kinda shuffle him out to the NFL a year early when that wasn’t all that normal which worked out great😲. But if Cook ever does address this and says it’s better to keep HM “in the fold”, you know the same script is in the AD office in a break glass in case of multiple arrests box.
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Post by babybacksets on May 4, 2024 12:19:07 GMT -5
Did they also watch their father die slowly in front of them? You people are such sick fux You don’t know what people are going through. Bunch of idiot judge judies Nope. That’s a really tragic situation that i’m sure still hurts her deeply, and I feel for her. Unfortunately, tragedy happens to everyone in their lifetime, and you can’t use it as a shield to act however you please 13 years later. Oh I’m sorry, I forgot you are the determiner of how tragedy affects you and when. By all means continue on with being grand justice of human behavior. JFC the things you sanctimonious people will do just for the sake of feeling right on the internet.
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 4, 2024 12:46:10 GMT -5
Agree with first paragraph, but not 2nd. At this point, the primary career path HM has professed is WVB. Don't agree with pulling that away from her at this point. She has clearly damaged her pro WVB prospects in the short term, but she can change and amend that. However, in the end, she is the one that must implement the corrective behavior required. Well too freaking bad. She can profess any career path she wants. Plenty of people don't get to work in their preferred career path, many of them because of criminal records, which she will now have. Quite a few countries will not authorize a working visa (which she would need to play overseas) due to a DUI. Adding to that with petty theft charges isn't going to help. She is no longer a minor, so those are going to be on her record for a while. And it's not like she can just transfer to another school, as those charges are a discretionary disqualifying item for admissions. Do I think she should be permanently banned from the team/volleyball? Absolutely not. But she should definitely be taking a (redshirt) year away from the program to get her crap together, get whatever help she needs, and sort through her legal issues and any ramifications from them. Coddling her and telling her she is special because she is an amazing volleyball player is likely, at least, a partially contributing factor to all of this. Now, it's time to grow up. How did you arrive at a year out of curiosity? What is it do you believe that would accomplish? Could she not address the challenges she has and stay with program? I’m not agreeing or disagreeing, just curious.
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Post by babybacksets on May 4, 2024 12:59:24 GMT -5
she a baddie posting this yesterday and yeah glo should be the teams theme next year 🤣🤣🤣 https://www.tiktok.com/@harperrmurrayy/video/7364531401351253290 Stomp a lil' %*$# ho with some shell toes (Yeah, Glo!) Slappin' rap bitches and makin' bail, ho (Yeah, Glo!) Two-tone Cartier match the nails, ho (Yeah, Glo!) No competition, these bitches stale, ho (Yeah, Glo!) Cuban on Cuban, my %*$# in layers, ho (Yeah, Glo!) Say they get money, but I can't tell, ho (Yeah, Glo!) Keep runnin' circles around these snail hoes (Yeah, Glo!) And my %*$# bumpin' up in the jail, ho OHHHHH MYYYYYYY ..... what.a.disgrace. No empathy. No compassion. NO EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE. Omfg It’s really all about the sanctimony with you people isn’t it? Why not burn Choboy and Jackson for dancing with her and showing her love rather than icing her out?
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Post by ilalum92 on May 4, 2024 13:00:54 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the Nebraska Student body Code of Conduct says about actions like this? Most University’s have them.
She should held accountable for all of her actions, whether in a court of law and/or by the University.
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