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Post by huskerfrosh on May 4, 2024 9:41:59 GMT -5
she a baddie posting this yesterday and yeah glo should be the teams theme next year 🤣🤣🤣 https://www.tiktok.com/@harperrmurrayy/video/7364531401351253290 Stomp a lil' %*$# ho with some shell toes (Yeah, Glo!) Slappin' rap bitches and makin' bail, ho (Yeah, Glo!) Two-tone Cartier match the nails, ho (Yeah, Glo!) No competition, these bitches stale, ho (Yeah, Glo!) Cuban on Cuban, my %*$# in layers, ho (Yeah, Glo!) Say they get money, but I can't tell, ho (Yeah, Glo!) Keep runnin' circles around these snail hoes (Yeah, Glo!) And my %*$# bumpin' up in the jail, ho OHHHHH MYYYYYYY ..... what.a.disgrace. No empathy. No compassion. NO EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE.
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Post by bbg95 on May 4, 2024 9:43:33 GMT -5
This thread is like a qualification tournament for the Reading Olympics. So far, no one has advanced to the Finals. Speak for yourself. Some of us know how to read. And, uh, I wouldn't exactly say you would be a medal threat in that event, lol.
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Post by volleyguy on May 4, 2024 9:43:59 GMT -5
Two primary sources for NIL: advertisers and donors. Advertisers don't pay for bad role models, at least not at NE. Many NE donors are very negative on the type of behavior HM has involved herself in. They are letting it be known that their contributions are at risk. Nebraska donors may be big on sanctimony, but they're also big on winning. No doubt everyone wants to see an end to the headlines and negative attention, but suggesting they are threatening to end their support is pure hyperbole at this point.
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Post by volleyguy on May 4, 2024 9:48:56 GMT -5
This thread is like a qualification tournament for the Reading Olympics. So far, no one has advanced to the Finals. Speak for yourself. Some of us know how to read. And, uh, I wouldn't exactly say you would be a medal threat in that event, lol. So you think that the shoplifting is going to be blamed on her drinking problem? How does that work? She was so drunk, she forgot to pay, and then drove away? Cynically, I predict: This episode and the DUI will be blamed on having a drinking problem. Which may or may not be true, but claiming addiction is likely to garner more sympathy and forgiveness than the alternative narrative that she willfully made bad choices. Over the summer she'll spend some time at an in-patient detox facility, and in the fall she will emerge with a very carefully choreographed apology tour - interviews with friendly parties, a podcast or two, public apology on Insta. That's the smart PR move, both for her and Nebraska volleyball. I think this is right. I don't think she'll get kicked off the team because she's so talented, and I'm a cynic. I'm guessing they will give her a real suspension for at least one regular season match this time (being suspended for a meaningless exhibition doesn't count). Either way, I hope she gets some help.
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Post by bbg95 on May 4, 2024 9:49:36 GMT -5
It’s Nebraska Athletics….they rolled with Lawrence Phillips until he couldn’t help them win😉. She’ll get all the support she needs if she can do that, then she will quietly move on in a fashion that is posed as mutuality beneficial…. Lol, they rolled with Lawrence Phillips the whole way. He was reinstated for the last four games in 1995 and started the Fiesta Bowl against Florida.
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Post by mervinswerved on May 4, 2024 9:50:30 GMT -5
Two primary sources for NIL: advertisers and donors. Advertisers don't pay for bad role models, at least not at NE. Many NE donors are very negative on the type of behavior HM has involved herself in. They are letting it be known that their contributions are at risk. I'm intimately familiar with how NIL works, but thanks.
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Post by gazelle1 on May 4, 2024 10:09:00 GMT -5
It’s Nebraska Athletics….they rolled with Lawrence Phillips until he couldn’t help them win😉. She’ll get all the support she needs if she can do that, then she will quietly move on in a fashion that is posed as mutuality beneficial…. Lol, they rolled with Lawrence Phillips the whole way. He was reinstated for the last four games in 1995 and started the Fiesta Bowl against Florida. Phillips was suspended for all but the last regular season game against Oklahoma and then the Fiesta Bowl. The interesting thing to me is that the 1995 Nebraska team didn't need Phillips. His backup was Ahman Green...the same Ahman Green who would go on to have a stellar pro career with the Green Bay Packers. That 1995 Nebraska team was loaded.
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 4, 2024 10:22:42 GMT -5
Lol, they rolled with Lawrence Phillips the whole way. He was reinstated for the last four games in 1995 and started the Fiesta Bowl against Florida. Phillips was suspended for all but the last regular season game against Oklahoma and then the Fiesta Bowl. The interesting thing to me is that the 1995 Nebraska team didn't need Phillips. His backup was Ahman Green...the same Ahman Green who would go on to have a stellar pro career with the Green Bay Packers. That 1995 Nebraska team was loaded.  Osborne actually believed he was doing the right thing by keeping him in the fold. That of course can be debated. What Osborne was afraid of if he kicked him off, ironically was exactly what happened.
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Post by bbg95 on May 4, 2024 10:24:24 GMT -5
Lol, they rolled with Lawrence Phillips the whole way. He was reinstated for the last four games in 1995 and started the Fiesta Bowl against Florida. Phillips was suspended for all but the last regular season game against Oklahoma and then the Fiesta Bowl. The interesting thing to me is that the 1995 Nebraska team didn't need Phillips. His backup was Ahman Green...the same Ahman Green who would go on to have a stellar pro career with the Green Bay Packers. That 1995 Nebraska team was loaded. Admittedly, it's been a long time, so I don't recall exactly from my personal memory. Wikipedia says he was reinstated for the Iowa State game.
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Post by bbg95 on May 4, 2024 10:30:40 GMT -5
Phillips was suspended for all but the last regular season game against Oklahoma and then the Fiesta Bowl. The interesting thing to me is that the 1995 Nebraska team didn't need Phillips. His backup was Ahman Green...the same Ahman Green who would go on to have a stellar pro career with the Green Bay Packers. That 1995 Nebraska team was loaded. Osborne actually believed he was doing the right thing by keeping him in the fold. That of course can be debated. What Osborne was afraid of if he kicked him off, ironically was exactly what happened. I think Osborne thought Phillips could help him win another national title. And he did, even though they probably didn't need him (to be fair, the game with undefeated Florida was thought to be a close matchup before the game, so it's not clear that Osborne knew that Phillips wouldn't be needed). If he was a third-stringer, I think there's no doubt that he would have been kicked off the team permanently. But stars get treated differently than other players.
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Post by bborr on May 4, 2024 10:50:34 GMT -5
It’s Nebraska Athletics….they rolled with Lawrence Phillips until he couldn’t help them win😉. She’ll get all the support she needs if she can do that, then she will quietly move on in a fashion that is posed as mutuality beneficial…. Lol, they rolled with Lawrence Phillips the whole way. He was reinstated for the last four games in 1995 and started the Fiesta Bowl against Florida. I really don’t think what Osborne did with Phillips 30 years ago is relevant to what Nebraska athletics and Cook do with Murray.
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Post by GoGophs on May 4, 2024 10:55:52 GMT -5
I understand that and it’s a tough situation to determine what the consequences will be. I don’t envy the people making those decisions. I agree that I’d also be hesitant to completely kick her off the team because it could feel to her like taking away the thing she loves most and one would hope that volleyball could be a stabilizing factor for her. But at the same time, that might be what’s needed to send the clearest message to her. She was facing legal consequences for one thing but continued to disobey laws by shoplifting. Sometimes people need to hit rock bottom to pivot forward in the right direction. Maybe suspending her from the team for a year (just spit balling here) could make her stop annd think and facilitate a more positive direction. Ultimately I’m concerned about her and hope she gets support she needs as a person, not a very talented volleyball player. I know nothing about her personally so the pressure is really on those around her that do to do the best they can to positively impact her. You're treating her like a kid in high school with involved parents. She's not. She's a Young adult that's some mixture of spoiled, entitled, flaky, irresponsible, unaccountable, and unwell. There's no one who can force to take even a single shred of accountability for her actions. There are no consequences outside of the courtroom that anyone can make her face that she doesn't want to. One second of adversity and she can leave to go get paid somewhere else. Fair points, and I actually agree with the general sentiment you have - I'll also admit that being a parent may be jading my perspective. You're 100% right that no one can force her to take accountability for her actions, only she can right the ship. Either way, there needs to be a response from the powers that be around her. Whether she choses to use those consequences in a positive or negative way is her prerogative.
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Post by gatekeeper on May 4, 2024 11:02:04 GMT -5
I’m surprised the video of the DUI hasn’t been released. Do we think that will ever be public?
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on May 4, 2024 11:02:06 GMT -5
This is why John Cook should’ve disciplined Harper the first time, could’ve prevented this. Oh yes, the ol’ DUI being a gateway to shoplifting!  *eyeroll*I mean…. Yes . She’s obviously in a crisis right now, some time apart from the sport would’ve done a lot. *eye rolls too*
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Post by gazelle1 on May 4, 2024 11:06:56 GMT -5
Osborne actually believed he was doing the right thing by keeping him in the fold. That of course can be debated. What Osborne was afraid of if he kicked him off, ironically was exactly what happened. I think Osborne thought Phillips could help him win another national title. And he did, even though they probably didn't need him (to be fair, the game with undefeated Florida was thought to be a close matchup before the game, so it's not clear that Osborne knew that Phillips wouldn't be needed). If he was a third-stringer, I think there's no doubt that he would have been kicked off the team permanently. But stars get treated differently than other players. Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this isn't true. Osborne didn't keep Phillips on the team to win another title. He didn't need Phillips to win a title that year. Osborne kept Phillips on because he knew Phillips had no family (he was an orphan), no friends outside of the football team, and no structure or institution other than the football team that could moderate Phillips and perhaps keep Phillips focused on something positive. Ultimately, there was nothing that could keep Phillips from descending into a dark path, but Osborne tried. Anyone who knows Tom Osborne knows this.
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