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Post by mop on May 4, 2024 8:07:48 GMT -5
Agreed. I grew up with/have friends that grew up very fortunate, some of them are just entitled. Sorry Did they also watch their father die slowly in front of them? You people are such sick fux You don’t know what people are going through. Bunch of idiot judge judies Nope. That’s a really tragic situation that i’m sure still hurts her deeply, and I feel for her. Unfortunately, tragedy happens to everyone in their lifetime, and you can’t use it as a shield to act however you please 13 years later. |
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Post by mervinswerved on May 4, 2024 8:14:05 GMT -5
Wonder if those NIL contracts have cancelation clauses related to illegal or unacceptable behavior. I suspect so, if not they will be added onto new future contracts. Sure, but if the choice is between keeping her on the payroll or losing her to another school, I imagine Nebraska will keep her on the payroll. Depends on how much she's getting from actual endorsements and how much is coming through their collective. The latter source probably won't change much, if at all. |
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Post by GoGophs on May 4, 2024 8:15:22 GMT -5
I really feel bad for her teammates…Her actions affect everyone around her and no doubt everyone on the team has a pit in their stomach about this. Volleyball is an extracaricular team sport and what an individual who’s a member of that team does has ripple effects on everyone around her and the school itself. Hopefully the school and the athletic department handle it appropriately. My personal opinion no one cares about? First thing to go as a consequence is any extra activities, that means volleyball. Time to focus on school, herself, and maturing into an adult. Sometimes everything that comes with being a student athlete, ESPECIALLY now with NIL money, is just too much for some people. Whatever is going on, might be best to go back to a more simple life without the celebrity of Nebraska volleyball and focus on the things that really matter. Agree with first paragraph, but not 2nd. At this point, the primary career path HM has professed is WVB. Don't agree with pulling that away from her at this point. She has clearly damaged her pro WVB prospects in the short term, but she can change and amend that. However, in the end, she is the one that must implement the corrective behavior required. I understand that and it’s a tough situation to determine what the consequences will be. I don’t envy the people making those decisions. I agree that I’d also be hesitant to completely kick her off the team because it could feel to her like taking away the thing she loves most and one would hope that volleyball could be a stabilizing factor for her. But at the same time, that might be what’s needed to send the clearest message to her. She was facing legal consequences for one thing but continued to disobey laws by shoplifting. Sometimes people need to hit rock bottom to pivot forward in the right direction. Maybe suspending her from the team for a year (just spit balling here) could make her stop annd think and facilitate a more positive direction. Ultimately I’m concerned about her and hope she gets support she needs as a person, not a very talented volleyball player. I know nothing about her personally so the pressure is really on those around her that do to do the best they can to positively impact her. |
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Post by mervinswerved on May 4, 2024 8:20:30 GMT -5
Does she get a visit from the police about this? lol |
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Post by badgerbyproxy on May 4, 2024 8:20:41 GMT -5
Does she get a visit from the police about this? Does it get brought up during her DUI court case? Are those common occurrences in instances like this? It likely won’t be brought up in her court case for the DUI because it’s an unrelated charge. Court cases *should* only focus on the charges being prosecuted. |
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Post by gazelle1 on May 4, 2024 8:34:48 GMT -5
Does she get a visit from the police about this? Does it get brought up during her DUI court case? Are those common occurrences in instances like this? I also wonder about the fact that it was mentioned she went to her car and put on the allegedly stolen rings. Was she driving? I thought after a DUI you get your license suspended, or does that happen after the trial/plea deal/whatever? |
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Post by rjaege on May 4, 2024 8:37:13 GMT -5
Agree with first paragraph, but not 2nd. At this point, the primary career path HM has professed is WVB. Don't agree with pulling that away from her at this point. She has clearly damaged her pro WVB prospects in the short term, but she can change and amend that. However, in the end, she is the one that must implement the corrective behavior required. I understand that and it’s a tough situation to determine what the consequences will be. I don’t envy the people making those decisions. I agree that I’d also be hesitant to completely kick her off the team because it could feel to her like taking away the thing she loves most and one would hope that volleyball could be a stabilizing factor for her. But at the same time, that might be what’s needed to send the clearest message to her. She was facing legal consequences for one thing but continued to disobey laws by shoplifting. Sometimes people need to hit rock bottom to pivot forward in the right direction. Maybe suspending her from the team for a year (just spit balling here) could make her stop annd think and facilitate a more positive direction. Ultimately I’m concerned about her and hope she gets support she needs as a person, not a very talented volleyball player. I know nothing about her personally so the pressure is really on those around her that do to do the best they can to positively impact her. At this point in her life, VB is not an extracurricular activity, it is her chosen career choice. It is her choice to straighten up and salvage that. Ripping it out from under her at this point won't help her, IMO. Also don't forget her family. I hit some rough spots at her age. My family stepped in and helped me straighten up. I was letting my family down and that was a big incentive to straighten out. In the end, it is up to her, to straighten out. We seem to agree we both want her to suceed. We seem to differ some on strategies to achieve that, which to me is what much of this discussion revolves around. And frankly, we dont know what is going on with HM, NE, NIL or family. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 4, 2024 8:45:59 GMT -5
I just don’t understand why? You just made a terrible decision to break the law and put people at risk, but luckily were given the opportunity to learn and grow from it. Then you break the law AGAIN? You have every resource available to you at Nebraska, great NIL, unlimited community support, and athletic talent. It’s just not adding up to me. She obviously has problems, of course it’s obviously not rationale decision making. If you’re able to make a a $350 purchase, stealing a bunch of $5 rings clearly isn’t about the money. It’s all pretty sad. Young person with so much going for her being so self destructive. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 4, 2024 8:48:57 GMT -5
Your premise that somehow Cook is responsible or could have done more is stupid. MH is responsible for her actions. She needs to straighten herself out. Her very promising career is at risk. NE Athletic Dept will do their part to help her, both punitively and proactively, but in the end HM must straighten herself up. She is responsible. Not Cook, not the team, not the AD, nor NE. It is very sad to see a young person squander their opportunities, but it happens. Your reading comprehension could use some work. I didn't say that. What I said was that he didn't really discipline her. And he didn't. Whether a more substantive punishment would have made a difference is unknown. But I stand by saying that a spring match "suspension" is not a real punishment. How do you know what discipline she did or didn’t get?  |
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 4, 2024 8:50:09 GMT -5
I really feel bad for her teammates…Her actions affect everyone around her and no doubt everyone on the team has a pit in their stomach about this. Volleyball is an extracaricular team sport and what an individual who’s a member of that team does has ripple effects on everyone around her and the school itself. Hopefully the school and the athletic department handle it appropriately. My personal opinion no one cares about? First thing to go as a consequence is any extra activities, that means volleyball. Time to focus on school, herself, and maturing into an adult. Sometimes everything that comes with being a student athlete, ESPECIALLY now with NIL money, is just too much for some people. Whatever is going on, might be best to go back to a more simple life without the celebrity of Nebraska volleyball and focus on the things that really matter. I’m sure her teammates are worried about her. |
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Post by rjaege on May 4, 2024 8:52:33 GMT -5
Wonder if those NIL contracts have cancelation clauses related to illegal or unacceptable behavior. I suspect so, if not they will be added onto new future contracts. Sure, but if the choice is between keeping her on the payroll or losing her to another school, I imagine Nebraska will keep her on the payroll. Depends on how much she's getting from actual endorsements and how much is coming through their collective. The latter source probably won't change much, if at all. Suspect the later source is being negatively impacted, especially going forward, and not just for HM. Might explain the current emphasis on "NE Culture", which appears centered on achievement, team sharing, and community participation. A proactive program activity. |
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Post by mervinswerved on May 4, 2024 8:57:02 GMT -5
Sure, but if the choice is between keeping her on the payroll or losing her to another school, I imagine Nebraska will keep her on the payroll. Depends on how much she's getting from actual endorsements and how much is coming through their collective. The latter source probably won't change much, if at all. Suspect the later source is being negatively impacted, especially going forward, and not just for HM. I seriously doubt that. |
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Post by biodogtexas on May 4, 2024 9:06:58 GMT -5
Agree with first paragraph, but not 2nd. At this point, the primary career path HM has professed is WVB. Don't agree with pulling that away from her at this point. She has clearly damaged her pro WVB prospects in the short term, but she can change and amend that. However, in the end, she is the one that must implement the corrective behavior required. I understand that and it’s a tough situation to determine what the consequences will be. I don’t envy the people making those decisions. I agree that I’d also be hesitant to completely kick her off the team because it could feel to her like taking away the thing she loves most and one would hope that volleyball could be a stabilizing factor for her. But at the same time, that might be what’s needed to send the clearest message to her. She was facing legal consequences for one thing but continued to disobey laws by shoplifting. Sometimes people need to hit rock bottom to pivot forward in the right direction. Maybe suspending her from the team for a year (just spit balling here) could make her stop annd think and facilitate a more positive direction. Ultimately I’m concerned about her and hope she gets support she needs as a person, not a very talented volleyball player. I know nothing about her personally so the pressure is really on those around her that do to do the best they can to positively impact her. You're treating her like a kid in high school with involved parents. She's not. She's a Young adult that's some mixture of spoiled, entitled, flaky, irresponsible, unaccountable, and unwell. There's no one who can force to take even a single shred of accountability for her actions. There are no consequences outside of the courtroom that anyone can make her face that she doesn't want to. One second of adversity and she can leave to go get paid somewhere else. |
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Post by rjaege on May 4, 2024 9:16:47 GMT -5
Suspect the later source is being negatively impacted, especially going forward, and not just for HM. I seriously doubt that. Two primary sources for NIL: advertisers and donors. Advertisers don't pay for bad role models, at least not at NE. Many NE donors are very negative on the type of behavior HM has involved herself in. They are letting it be known that their contributions are at risk. |
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Post by rivaldealer on May 4, 2024 9:36:08 GMT -5
she a baddie posting this yesterday and yeah glo should be the teams theme next year 🤣🤣🤣
https://www.tiktok.com/@harperrmurrayy/video/7364531401351253290
Stomp a lil' %*$# ho with some shell toes
(Yeah, Glo!) Slappin' rap bitches and makin' bail, ho
(Yeah, Glo!) Two-tone Cartier match the nails, ho
(Yeah, Glo!) No competition, these bitches stale, ho
(Yeah, Glo!) Cuban on Cuban, my %*$# in layers, ho
(Yeah, Glo!) Say they get money, but I can't tell, ho
(Yeah, Glo!) Keep runnin' circles around these snail hoes
(Yeah, Glo!) And my %*$# bumpin' up in the jail, ho
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