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Post by biodogtexas on May 5, 2024 4:23:25 GMT -5
People are always very happy to request that other people face the consequences of their actions, even if they might not be so quick to insist upon it if they were talking about their own actions. Welcome to the human condition. That's why we're supposed to have outside, unbiased people making these decisions.
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Post by knapplc on May 5, 2024 7:26:20 GMT -5
anyone who actually thinks that of him is a corrupt pos just like him. Learn to spell his name.
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Post by rjaege on May 5, 2024 7:45:38 GMT -5
Again my problem with Harper is honestly the timing. She KNEW she was under a microscope because of the DUI. She knew that she honestly had to be on her best behavior, especially as the rumor was she resisted arrest etc. But she CHOSE to do this? She KNEW what she was doing, she knew her actions would have consequences but she didn’t care. Running a red light? DUI, intoxication in public, etc, all not good but can understand as mistakes happen, especially under the influence. Stealing? She had Full knowledge on what she was doing, she was fully coherent and aware of her actions but chose to do it This is a huge slap in the face not only to Nebraska, but her teammates. It’s incredibly selfish and quite frankly, stupid. That’s my problem Actually its not your problem. It's hers. It appears she has been suspended from the team by the AD. The question I have is this a recent episodic problem or a longer term pattern with her. I don't know and neither do others. P.S. Shoplifting is rampant. One reason is our society and how we approach punishment. If we had a quick acting legal system followed by a quickly administered punishment there would be lot less crime. For example, shoplifting would be rare IF: a trial within 48 hours followed by public caning for first offense thievery, hand amputation for 2nd offense and execution for 3rd offense (more humane than letting them starve wo hands). But that is not the society we live in.
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Post by rjaege on May 5, 2024 8:09:01 GMT -5
The AD is new. If he stepped in, I wonder how Cook and he will get along. This might test that. Watch the end of the post spring game presser. Coach Cook was asked about HM's status going forward. His answer: it is out of my hands ... My interpretation is that HM has been indefinitely suspended by the AD, probably in consultation with NU administration, but not by Coach Cook.
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Post by gazelle1 on May 5, 2024 8:25:12 GMT -5
The AD is new. If he stepped in, I wonder how Cook and he will get along. This might test that. Watch the end of the post spring game presser. Coach Cook was asked about HM's status going forward. His answer: it is out of my hands ... My interpretation is that HM has been indefinitely suspended by the AD, probably in consultation with NU administration, but not by Coach Cook. Yeah, I agree. If it is out of Cook's hands, that means the AD's office has taken over the case. I doubt that is good news for Harper Murray.
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Post by babybacksets on May 5, 2024 8:27:08 GMT -5
And this might also be difficult to understand seeing as so GD many of you aren’t getting it, but the karenesque piling on does nothing but prove that some of you really aren’t interested in anything but that. No one here thinks she is above receiving adequate consequences for her actions, but this “Tut-Tut” volleytalk high counsel that finds the need to be the arbiter of what should happen to her is annoying, although I’m sure you all enjoy that about yourselves. Just get your torches and pitchforks and show up to her house already. Maybe spray paint all her clothes with scarlet letter “Ts” or “DDs”? Like wtf do y’all want and think Harper Murray owes any of you b*tches? 😂 Talk about misplaced anger. If you're so annoyed, just ignore the thread. Easy. I'm not sure labeling Harper's Chest with "DDs" would be appropriate. That's both inaccurate and would likely constitute sexual harassment, lol. That's a pretty shameful suggestion. Women are more than their bodies. Only because that last part was funny I’m gonna overlook the rest of how annoying you’ve been.
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 5, 2024 8:49:42 GMT -5
Watch the end of the post spring game presser. Coach Cook was asked about HM's status going forward. His answer: it is out of my hands ... My interpretation is that HM has been indefinitely suspended by the AD, probably in consultation with NU administration, but not by Coach Cook. Yeah, I agree. If it is out of Cook's hands, that means the AD's office has taken over the case. I doubt that is good news for Harper Murray. I don’t believe that’s what he meant.
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Post by rjaege on May 5, 2024 9:07:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. If it is out of Cook's hands, that means the AD's office has taken over the case. I doubt that is good news for Harper Murray. I don’t believe that’s what he meant. That is what I meant.
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Post by rjaege on May 5, 2024 9:22:38 GMT -5
Many tried to help LP, in vain. In the end the individual is responsible for their actions. Hopefully HM realizes this and makes needed behavioral changes. NE Athletic Department will provide support, but in the end it is up to HM. Osbourne played a SPOUSE ABUSER! That isn't helping. Osbourne was (IS) a corrupt POS that would do anything for a win. NE athletics and fan need to move past that slimebag. Then we got drunk Solich honored here as well. Solich smelled of alcohol at practice and NU did nothing. Most people knew. No surprise Harper gets off light. Does she get a visit from the police about this? Probably should to check for other stolen items. Shoplifting is generally not a one off crime. Tom Osborne was a great coach and mentor to his players. Many former NE players have said he was a critical mentor in shaping their lives. Suggest you not falsely denigrate him in their presence, they might forget what he taught them. But then I suspect face to face confrontation is not your style.
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Post by volleyball303 on May 5, 2024 10:06:25 GMT -5
Again my problem with Harper is honestly the timing. She KNEW she was under a microscope because of the DUI. She knew that she honestly had to be on her best behavior, especially as the rumor was she resisted arrest etc. But she CHOSE to do this? She KNEW what she was doing, she knew her actions would have consequences but she didn’t care. Running a red light? DUI, intoxication in public, etc, all not good but can understand as mistakes happen, especially under the influence. Stealing? She had Full knowledge on what she was doing, she was fully coherent and aware of her actions but chose to do it This is a huge slap in the face not only to Nebraska, but her teammates. It’s incredibly selfish and quite frankly, stupid. That’s my problem Actually its not your problem. It's hers. It appears she has been suspended from the team by the AD. The question I have is this a recent episodic problem or a longer term pattern with her. I don't know and neither do others. P.S. Shoplifting is rampant. One reason is our society and how we approach punishment. If we had a quick acting legal system followed by a quickly administered punishment there would be lot less crime. For example, shoplifting would be rare IF: a trial within 48 hours followed by public caning for first offense thievery, hand amputation for 2nd offense and execution for 3rd offense (more humane than letting them starve wo hands). But that is not the society we live in. I would bet Nebraska still has DAs who take crimes like shoplifting pretty seriously. More so than most of the country. This could also be a mental health issue and I think the school should be careful with how the punish her. Clearly with the NIL money she does not need to steal 3 $12 rings.
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Post by bbg95 on May 5, 2024 10:29:52 GMT -5
People are always very happy to request that other people face the consequences of their actions, even if they might not be so quick to insist upon it if they were talking about their own actions. People are hypocrites. News at 11.
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Post by usavolley01 on May 5, 2024 10:40:59 GMT -5
It’s obvious this likely isn't going to end well, actions have consequences, but I hope the public is able to be empathetic towards the fact that she is young and immature. We all have moments of recklessness and bad judgement in our youth - fortunately most of us don’t have to learn hard lessons with this level of attention.
The internet can be cruel. She is human, and deserves the space to grow from this without internet trolls attacking her. I hope she gets the help she needs and is able to come out on the other side of this a more humble and resilient person.
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Post by volleyguy on May 5, 2024 10:43:38 GMT -5
Again my problem with Harper is honestly the timing. She KNEW she was under a microscope because of the DUI. She knew that she honestly had to be on her best behavior, especially as the rumor was she resisted arrest etc. But she CHOSE to do this? She KNEW what she was doing, she knew her actions would have consequences but she didn’t care. Running a red light? DUI, intoxication in public, etc, all not good but can understand as mistakes happen, especially under the influence. Stealing? She had Full knowledge on what she was doing, she was fully coherent and aware of her actions but chose to do it This is a huge slap in the face not only to Nebraska, but her teammates. It’s incredibly selfish and quite frankly, stupid. That’s my problem To me, the timing is just a symptom of the problem (perhaps, a symptom of a very big problem). The real question is, what is Harper's underlying problem? The fact that the absurdity or self-destructiveness of it is obvious to us doesn't mean that it is obvious to her (although it could be). That's not meant as an excuse, but simply to say that none of us can presume to know what is going on with her, although we can surely presume that there is something very serious going on.
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 5, 2024 10:51:21 GMT -5
The AD is new. If he stepped in, I wonder how Cook and he will get along. This might test that. Watch the end of the post spring game presser. Coach Cook was asked about HM's status going forward. His answer: it is out of my hands ... My interpretation is that HM has been indefinitely suspended by the AD, probably in consultation with NU administration, but not by Coach Cook. I highly, highly doubt that.
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 5, 2024 10:51:53 GMT -5
Again my problem with Harper is honestly the timing. She KNEW she was under a microscope because of the DUI. She knew that she honestly had to be on her best behavior, especially as the rumor was she resisted arrest etc. But she CHOSE to do this? She KNEW what she was doing, she knew her actions would have consequences but she didn’t care. Running a red light? DUI, intoxication in public, etc, all not good but can understand as mistakes happen, especially under the influence. Stealing? She had Full knowledge on what she was doing, she was fully coherent and aware of her actions but chose to do it This is a huge slap in the face not only to Nebraska, but her teammates. It’s incredibly selfish and quite frankly, stupid. That’s my problem To me, the timing is just a symptom of the problem (perhaps, a symptom of a very big problem). The real question is, what is Harper's underlying problem? The fact that the absurdity or self-destructiveness of it is obvious to us doesn't mean that it is obvious to her (although it could be). That's not meant as an excuse, but simply to say that none of us can presume to know what is going on with her, although we can surely presume that there is something very serious going on. Exactly.
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