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Post by blue-footedbooby on Apr 8, 2024 9:56:24 GMT -5
Not really. www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-war-economy-faces-tough-times-ahead-says-imfs-georgieva-2024-02-12/Russia's war economy is in for tough times due to the outflow of people and shortages of technology, the International Monetary Fund's managing director Kristalina Georgieva said on Monday, even as high military spending boosts economic growth. The economy rebounded sharply from a slump in 2022, annual data showed last week, but the growth relies heavily on state-funded arms and ammunition production and masks problems that are hampering an improvement in Russians' living standards. ******** Russia-based economists have highlighted the poor quality of economic growth, pointing out that missiles and shells may contribute to higher GDP but offer limited benefit to the population. "I actually think the Russian economy is (in) for very tough times because of the outflow of people and because of the reduced access to technology that comes with the sanctions," Georgieva said. Unbelievable. So brainwashed that your only response after being given evidence that the mainstream media was in fact wrong about Russia is to post more nonsense predictions from the mainstream media! .......Oh so their economy is getting a boost from military spending? ...How does that compare to a country that gets it's GDP boost from printing money? Still not too late to move there. You would fit right in. "Russia losing close to 1,000 soldiers every day, UK intelligence says. Losing nearly a thousand soldiers a day isn't stopping the Russians from launching mass attacks on Ukraine, the UK's defense ministry said in an intelligence dispatch on Sunday"
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Post by n00b on Apr 8, 2024 10:55:28 GMT -5
Or this. They can’t afford to lose and they can’t afford to win. Being in a state of war is keeping their economy ticking, along with barring money from leaving Russia. So the US has helped developed a situation where the only possible path forward is continued war and death. And you’re posting this like it’s a positive?
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 8, 2024 10:59:00 GMT -5
Or this. They can’t afford to lose and they can’t afford to win. Being in a state of war is keeping their economy ticking, along with barring money from leaving Russia. So the US has helped developed a situation where the only possible path forward is continued war and death. And you’re posting this like it’s a positive? It was Putin’s decision to invade, and no one else’s.
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Post by n00b on Apr 8, 2024 11:09:41 GMT -5
So the US has helped developed a situation where the only possible path forward is continued war and death. And you’re posting this like it’s a positive? It was Putin’s decision to invade, and no one else’s. I completely agree. I’m only talking about the US’s response and actions after Putin invaded.
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 8, 2024 11:12:27 GMT -5
It was Putin’s decision to invade, and no one else’s. I completely agree. I’m only talking about the US’s response and actions after Putin invaded. Do you think the US's response(s) have not been positive, and if so, how so? I'm having difficulty understanding your meaning in terms of your response to what bear posted.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 8, 2024 11:24:27 GMT -5
Great job VT forum partisans. All your predictions about the Russian economy failing and the their military being "depleted" were wrong. www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2024/04/03/russian-military-almost-completely-reconstituted-us-official-says/How many Ukrainian lives and billions did you squander believing the zionist, corporate controlled media that acted as if we would compel another superpower on the other side of the World to submit? How low has our World standing sunk thanks to sheep like you pledging your loyalty to one of these sick corrupt parties? The initial invasion plans called for torturing and killing as many as 3 million Ukrainians, including all the leadership, so that Russia could pacify the rest. You are having conniptions that a small fraction of that number have been killed and you are calling for capitulation. You are a tool of Russian propaganda. Putin looks willing to go to an unsustainable war economy and sacrifice several million of his own people to achieve his ends. Rather than stop him, your plan is capitulation, so that they can continue to torture and kill leadership in other neighboring countries, until they have the entire former USSR back under their iron grip. That is your plan to help people?
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Post by hbmb10k on Apr 8, 2024 12:43:05 GMT -5
"initial invasion plans called for torturing and killing as many as 3 million Ukrainians, including all the leadership,"......LOL!
Absurd! The stupidest thing I've read on the internet in Months!. And that is a high high bar. Completely, utterly, false!
What zionist corporate controlled "news site" injected this fact into your three brain cells?
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Post by hbmb10k on Apr 8, 2024 12:45:11 GMT -5
Hey ya'll! We have this plan to take back the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine. I think it should involve torture and killing 3 million.....LOL Hilarious!
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Post by HOLIDAY on Apr 8, 2024 13:04:08 GMT -5
"initial invasion plans called for torturing and killing as many as 3 million Ukrainians, including all the leadership,"......LOL! Absurd! The stupidest thing I've read on the internet in Months!. And that is a high high bar. Completely, utterly, false! What zionist corporate controlled "news site" injected this fact into your three brain cells? Are you giving advice on how to build credibility with these cockamamie posts?
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Post by longboards on Apr 8, 2024 13:24:24 GMT -5
Hey ya'll! We have this plan to take back the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine. I think it should involve torture and killing 3 million.....LOL Hilarious! Do you support the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 8, 2024 13:57:29 GMT -5
Hey ya'll! We have this plan to take back the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine. I think it should involve torture and killing 3 million.....LOL Hilarious! Do you somehow deny that the initial goal was to take Kiev and overthrow the elected government? Their own docs estimated up to 8% of the population could not be pacified and would have to be killed, or imprisoned and tortured, to pacify the rest. Do a little math.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 8, 2024 18:21:41 GMT -5
"initial invasion plans called for torturing and killing as many as 3 million Ukrainians, including all the leadership,"......LOL! Absurd! The stupidest thing I've read on the internet in Months!. And that is a high high bar. Completely, utterly, false! What zionist corporate controlled "news site" injected this fact into your three brain cells? BTW, those "absurd" numbers that are the "stupidest thing (you've) read on the internet in Months", were found in Russian documents, and are based on atrocities Russia committed in Chechnya. I'm sure the Zionist corporate controlled news sites are lying to me about how many Muslims the Russians killed to subjugate that Muslim population and control that Muslim country. OK, on your recommendation, I checked, and I'm glad I did. You were right that I was not getting the true story from the Western media My zionist corporate controlled news site reported that conservatively 50k and up to 100k Chechens were killed out of a population of 1.1 million, or 4.5% to 9%, but when I reach outside of the western media, I get an entirely different story. Al Jazeera says the real number is 300k, or 27%. You were right to laugh at my post. I so dramatically UNDER reported what the Russians are willing to do. Thanks for enlightening me as to how much worse and more evil Putin run Russia is than I even thought. Thank you for setting me straight.
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 8, 2024 22:13:00 GMT -5
Great job VT forum partisans. All your predictions about the Russian economy failing and the their military being "depleted" were wrong. www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2024/04/03/russian-military-almost-completely-reconstituted-us-official-says/How many Ukrainian lives and billions did you squander believing the zionist, corporate controlled media that acted as if we would compel another superpower on the other side of the World to submit? How low has our World standing sunk thanks to sheep like you pledging your loyalty to one of these sick corrupt parties? The initial invasion plans called for torturing and killing as many as 3 million Ukrainians, including all the leadership, so that Russia could pacify the rest. You are having conniptions that a small fraction of that number have been killed and you are calling for capitulation. You are a tool of Russian propaganda. Putin looks willing to go to an unsustainable war economy and sacrifice several million of his own people to achieve his ends. Rather than stop him, your plan is capitulation, so that they can continue to torture and kill leadership in other neighboring countries, until they have the entire former USSR back under their iron grip. That is your plan to help people? Paid trolls have no morals...
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Post by n00b on Apr 8, 2024 22:17:00 GMT -5
I completely agree. I’m only talking about the US’s response and actions after Putin invaded. Do you think the US's response(s) have not been positive, and if so, how so? I'm having difficulty understanding your meaning in terms of your response to what bear posted. If the goal is more peace, less war, and fewer deaths, then no. I don't think the US responses in Ukraine or Israel have been positive.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 8, 2024 22:48:52 GMT -5
It was Putin’s decision to invade, and no one else’s. I completely agree. I’m only talking about the US’s response and actions after Putin invaded. Nobody intervened on behalf of the Chechens when Russia invaded. Are they better off or worse off than Ukrainians? Keep in mind that Al Jazeera reported that the Russian's killed 300k Chechens (27% of the pre war population), and now dominates the country with a puppet government that rules with an iron fist, nearly 20 years later. Is that the kind of peaceful outcome that you propose for Ukraine, without aid? The Russians actually fought two wars against the Chechens. The first war didn't go well. The second war, just 3 years after the first ended, brought Putin to power with ruthless tactics. Here is how it is described in Wiki: "According to human rights activists, Russian troops systematically committed the following crimes in Chechnya: the destruction of cities and villages, not justified by military necessity; shelling and bombardment of unprotected settlements; summary extrajudicial executions and killings of civilians; torture, ill-treatment and infringement of human dignity; serious bodily harm intentionally inflicted on persons not directly participating in hostilities; deliberate strikes against the civilian population, civilian and medical vehicles; illegal detentions of the civilian population and enforced disappearances; looting and destruction of civilian and public property; extortion; taking hostages for ransom; corpse trade. There were also rapes, which, along with women, were committed against men. According to the Minister of Health of Ichkeria, Umar Khanbiev, Russian forces committed organ harvesting and organ trade during the conflict." That was the "Peaceful" result in Chechnya when the west stayed out of it.
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