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Post by bobinmd on Apr 9, 2024 7:42:46 GMT -5
What you hate about others is what you despise blah blah blah I have never responded to anyone with a blah blah blah blah. That’s just lazy and cowardly. You don’t respond much at all (see ‘Holiday unanswered question’ thread). Irony alert 🚨 you calling others “lazy”. So Hol, what was it the Maryland Governor said that was self serving (during the disaster) and what was it the Louisiana Governor said that wasn’t? Thanks in advance. Ps: With the Orange cultists, every accusation is a confession. 83.3 MILLION! 355 MILLION!
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Post by longboards on Apr 9, 2024 7:57:29 GMT -5
No governor's are saying you must stand and salute a BLM flag or a rainbow flag. Everyone has the right to choose that. Think about it 🤡. What countries FORCE their citizens to stand and salute. You know the answer, go hide in another thread. no they just demanded people wear masks and if any business dared to be open when they said they couldn’t they arrested them. You do remember those Covid days. I've consistently disagreed with shutting down business and leaving Walmart and Target open. Requiring a mask to be worn didn't infringe on any constitutional rights. Regardless, that's a weak association with mandating someone to stand for the anthem.
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 9, 2024 9:21:49 GMT -5
BTW, I pretty much never would stand for the National Anthem before sporting events, because I have found playing the anthem before sporting events to be a very stupid tradition. The pressure of sitting post 9/11 was too great for me to do this - although even post 9/11 - this is among the more stupid traditions in sports. It is long past time - they need to stop this tradition before every sporting event. These kinds of litmus tests for one's patriotism needs to stop. This is enormously disappointing. This is a simple basic way to honor the people who have died at an early age so we didn’t end up being Nazis. It’s to honor them in a simple way that lasts a mere few minutes. How pompous and sanctimonious of you to act like it means nothing to other people. It should. Maybe you should take some time and walk some cemeteries so you truly understand the sacrifice that took place so YOU could have a life you do now. How incredibly selfish. Here is a thought. At the Church I go to - we take communion once a month (12X a year). Part of the reason for doing this - instead of 52X a year - because doing it too often can take away how serious we 'remember' and maybe fall into just a more meaningless and less thoughtful routine. I would suggest - playing the National Anthem less often would probably be a much better way to 'honor our serviceman' - as when it is played it would become more special (less routine) and we could legitimately think about those people that sacrificed and not just have a blanked reaction.
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Post by bobinmd on Apr 9, 2024 9:30:22 GMT -5
This is enormously disappointing. This is a simple basic way to honor the people who have died at an early age so we didn’t end up being Nazis. It’s to honor them in a simple way that lasts a mere few minutes. How pompous and sanctimonious of you to act like it means nothing to other people. It should. Maybe you should take some time and walk some cemeteries so you truly understand the sacrifice that took place so YOU could have a life you do now. How incredibly selfish. Here is a thought. At the Church I go to - we take communion once a month (12X a year). Part of the reason for doing this - instead of 52X a year - because doing it too often can take away how serious we 'remember' and maybe fall into just a more meaningless and less thoughtful routine. I would suggest - playing the National Anthem less often would probably be a much better way to 'honor our serviceman' - as when it is played it would become more special (less routine) and we could legitimately think about those people that sacrificed and not just have a blanked reaction. Having served our country across the world and, speaking for myself, I am in agreement with you and like your suggestion as well.
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Post by manyshaped on Apr 9, 2024 9:30:50 GMT -5
This is enormously disappointing. This is a simple basic way to honor the people who have died at an early age so we didn’t end up being Nazis. It’s to honor them in a simple way that lasts a mere few minutes. How pompous and sanctimonious of you to act like it means nothing to other people. It should. Maybe you should take some time and walk some cemeteries so you truly understand the sacrifice that took place so YOU could have a life you do now. How incredibly selfish. Here is a thought. At the Church I go to - we take communion once a month (12X a year). Part of the reason for doing this - instead of 52X a year - because doing it too often can take away how serious we 'remember' and maybe fall into just a more meaningless and less thoughtful routine. I would suggest - playing the National Anthem less often would probably be a much better way to 'honor our serviceman' - as when it is played it would become more special (less routine) and we could legitimately think about those people that sacrificed and not just have a blanked reaction. random but a riff off of what you posted - my mom’s church has a separate service for communion once a month for the very same reason - they want to highlight the importance of it and not slot it in a regular service between offering and praise and worship
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 9, 2024 9:32:41 GMT -5
I already know that if I check the threads here on Volleytalk about whether Twitter, as a private company, has a right to not publish speech they disagree with, your opinion was that they are too big and important to be allowed to have the same freedom that you are currently saying private schools should have the right to have. The lessons from the Twitter files as produced by Matt Taibbi - was the Government was censoring speech through Twitter and other social network companies. Now - one could argue that the ownership of Twitter always agreed with the Government speech - and only the Government speech, therefore they were just editing/censoring content based on their opinion (which aligned with the Government). But it could also be argued that the Government's ability to wield its weight with prosecution, fines or Government harassment was pushing private companies into censorship from any speech the Government found offensive or bad. Or that Government imposing what is allowable speech on private citizens or companies is a really bad thing for a country to do. This is the basic blueprint for any Totalitarian Government. Even if one agrees with the Government on a particular issue - for them to dictate censorship for alternative opinions is a really bad thing - and this we found from the Twitter Files was happening.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Apr 9, 2024 9:35:42 GMT -5
This is enormously disappointing. This is a simple basic way to honor the people who have died at an early age so we didn’t end up being Nazis. It’s to honor them in a simple way that lasts a mere few minutes. How pompous and sanctimonious of you to act like it means nothing to other people. It should. Maybe you should take some time and walk some cemeteries so you truly understand the sacrifice that took place so YOU could have a life you do now. How incredibly selfish. Here is a thought. At the Church I go to - we take communion once a month (12X a year). Part of the reason for doing this - instead of 52X a year - because doing it too often can take away how serious we 'remember' and maybe fall into just a more meaningless and less thoughtful routine. I would suggest - playing the National Anthem less often would probably be a much better way to 'honor our serviceman' - as when it is played it would become more special (less routine) and we could legitimately think about those people that sacrificed and not just have a blanked reaction. Good take BP. We do the same at our church where communion is concerned. Saving the anthem for Championship games and the start of club tournaments, for example, might return some of the meaning and gravitas to the ritual.
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Post by jsquare on Apr 9, 2024 9:40:08 GMT -5
Here is a thought. At the Church I go to - we take communion once a month (12X a year). Part of the reason for doing this - instead of 52X a year - because doing it too often can take away how serious we 'remember' and maybe fall into just a more meaningless and less thoughtful routine. I would suggest - playing the National Anthem less often would probably be a much better way to 'honor our serviceman' - as when it is played it would become more special (less routine) and we could legitimately think about those people that sacrificed and not just have a blanked reaction. Good take BP. We do the same at our church where communion is concerned. Saving the anthem for Championship games and the start of club tournaments, for example, might return some of the meaning and gravitas to the ritual. Why is this an issue for you?
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Post by joetrinsey on Apr 9, 2024 9:41:24 GMT -5
Here is a thought. At the Church I go to - we take communion once a month (12X a year). Part of the reason for doing this - instead of 52X a year - because doing it too often can take away how serious we 'remember' and maybe fall into just a more meaningless and less thoughtful routine. I would suggest - playing the National Anthem less often would probably be a much better way to 'honor our serviceman' - as when it is played it would become more special (less routine) and we could legitimately think about those people that sacrificed and not just have a blanked reaction. Having served our country across the world and, speaking for myself, I am in agreement with you and like your suggestion as well.
Yeah. National Anthems before international sporting events are awesome. I didn't like FIVB going away from them. It's sort of the point of "sportsmanship." You represent your country, I'll represent mine, we'll do an athletic contest showcasing the physical and tactical prowess of our fighting-age populations and then shake hands at the end and agree to not kill each other for a little while. Me standing respectfully while your anthem plays is a pretty good proxy for, "I respect you enough to not wage war against you."
But what's the point of playing a National Anthem before a contest between two different parts of the same country. If anything, play a school or a state song or something.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Apr 9, 2024 9:44:44 GMT -5
Good take BP. We do the same at our church where communion is concerned. Saving the anthem for Championship games and the start of club tournaments, for example, might return some of the meaning and gravitas to the ritual. Why is this an issue for you? Did I claim that it was an issue? BP had a good take and I commented. Coming from a country that doesn’t play the anthem for every high school game or have a pledged oath to their flag, I come at some of these rituals with a different perspective. But never did I say, as far as I can remember, that I had “an issue” with them. Judging from this and the other thread, you’re seeming really thirsty for attention today. 🤷🏾♂️ EDIT—- I also made a comment on the Time Zones thread, if you need to follow me around. 😄
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Post by jsquare on Apr 9, 2024 9:53:18 GMT -5
Why is this an issue for you? Did I claim that it was an issue? BP had a good take and I commented. Coming from a country that doesn’t play the anthem for every high school game or have a pledged oath to their flag, I come at some of these rituals with a different perspective. But never did I say, as far as I can remember, that I had “an issue” with them. Judging from this and the other thread, you’re seeming really thirsty for attention today. 🤷🏾♂️ EDIT—- I also made a comment on the Time Zones thread, if you need to follow me around. 😄 Who cares if sports events takes 90 seconds to pay tribute to our country?
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Post by mervinswerved on Apr 9, 2024 9:54:00 GMT -5
Did I claim that it was an issue? BP had a good take and I commented. Coming from a country that doesn’t play the anthem for every high school game or have a pledged oath to their flag, I come at some of these rituals with a different perspective. But never did I say, as far as I can remember, that I had “an issue” with them. Judging from this and the other thread, you’re seeming really thirsty for attention today. 🤷🏾♂️ EDIT—- I also made a comment on the Time Zones thread, if you need to follow me around. 😄 Who cares if sports events takes 90 seconds to pay tribute to our country? I do! It's a silly tradition.
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Post by jsquare on Apr 9, 2024 9:57:39 GMT -5
Who cares if sports events takes 90 seconds to pay tribute to our country? I do! It's a silly tradition. Don't take part in it. Go get a coke.
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Post by mervinswerved on Apr 9, 2024 10:01:25 GMT -5
I do! It's a silly tradition. Don't take part in it. Go get a coke. It's funny to see the positions you work yourself into purely out of reflexive opposition to certain people.
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Post by jsquare on Apr 9, 2024 10:02:47 GMT -5
Don't take part in it. Go get a coke. It's funny to see the positions you work yourself into purely out of reflexive opposition to certain people. how so?
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