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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 8, 2024 16:29:50 GMT -5
presser for the big Irvine matches & senior week.
huge senior class
expecting some 4 & 5 setters
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Post by VT Karen on Apr 8, 2024 17:04:50 GMT -5
This is going to be a great series!
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Post by robonthemic on Apr 8, 2024 19:25:07 GMT -5
This is going to be a great series! Without a doubt. It would be penultimate if both teams were fully healthy. I'm hoping Clarke Godbold will be out there for LB and hoping Nolan Flexon of UCI are on the court. Clarke has been such a powerhouse for the Beach, but Nathan Harlan has been playing so well. After Flexen's mishap vs. Hawaii on night 2 he wasn't the same. Hoping that it isn't anything too serious and he can take court. |
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Post by VT Karen on Apr 8, 2024 21:20:39 GMT -5
This is going to be a great series! Without a doubt. It would be penultimate if both teams were fully healthy. I'm hoping Clarke Godbold will be out there for LB and hoping Nolan Flexon of UCI are on the court. Clarke has been such a powerhouse for the Beach, but Nathan Harlan has been playing so well. After Flexen's mishap vs. Hawaii on night 2 he wasn't the same. Hoping that it isn't anything too serious and he can take court. Agreed. I haven't followed LBSU too closely this season but it seems like Godbold took the floor against CSUN on 4/6? Does anyone know how he's doing? Regardless, Harlan has a lot of tools that make him important to his team and is one of my favorite players this season. I also hope that Flexen can take the court and be healthy. Additionally, UCI becomes even more dangerous if Flexen can up his efficiency. |
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Post by kb808 on Apr 8, 2024 21:30:43 GMT -5
Hoping for good volleyball.. however won’t be shocked if the Beach sweeps both nights!
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Post by kahusancali on Apr 8, 2024 23:39:56 GMT -5
ESPN+ again? I have access to everything but espn+. The only games I don’t get to watch are big west volleyball matches played in the mainland.
May the best team wins.
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Post by aaronic on Apr 9, 2024 7:44:52 GMT -5
These matches ironically have no impact on the BWC tourney…. Maybe for UCI’s at large chances…?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 9, 2024 12:00:28 GMT -5
These matches ironically have no impact on the BWC tourney…. Maybe for UCI’s at large chances…? the matches have a huge impact on the BWCT the #2 seed for Irvine & Hawaii is at stake. the difference between a 2 & 3 seed in the BWCT is massive, especially this year with the injuries and rosters for Irvine & Hawaii where the depth is an even bigger factor when trying to win 3 matches in 3 days. don't think it's going too far out on a limb to say whoever the #3 seed is, will not be winning the BWCT. ok, not impossible, just a massive difficult hurdle to overcome when your depth is limited for Beach, they've got at least a #2 seed for the BWCT, still the matches are huge to getting at least an at-large cemented and as high a seed possible for the NCAAs. nothing is certain right now aside from likely UCLA whose resume is solid in every category. the criteria is still very close and wins-losses these last weeks are big swingers |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 9, 2024 12:15:32 GMT -5
These matches ironically have no impact on the BWC tourney…. Maybe for UCI’s at large chances…? the matches have a huge impact on the BWCT the #2 seed for Irvine & Hawaii is at stake. I thought Irvine would still be the #2 seed regardless of the outcome this weekend against the Beach? Assuming that Irvine lost both matches and Hawai'i won theirs this weekend, both Irvine and Hawai'i would be 4-4 in the conference record. But because Irvine won 3-0 in their first match again Hawaii vs. 3-1 for Hawai'i, so they would have the edge there over Hawai'i? Maybe I forgot something here. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 9, 2024 12:28:11 GMT -5
the matches have a huge impact on the BWCT the #2 seed for Irvine & Hawaii is at stake. I thought Irvine would still be the #2 seed regardless of the outcome this weekend against the Beach? Assuming that Irvine lost both matches and Hawai'i won theirs this weekend, both Irvine and Hawai'i would be 4-4 in the conference record. But because Irvine won 3-0 in their first match again Hawaii vs. 3-1 for Hawai'i, so they would have the edge there over Hawai'i? Maybe I forgot something here. you know, that may be correct, after all. I was thinking Hawaii had another advantage Example Hawaii: 6-4, Irvine 6-4 vs. Beach (1st tie-breaker) 0-2. 0-2 does not break it vs. #4-6 seed (CSUN) both 1-1 vs. #5-6 seed (SB) both 2-0 vs. #4-5 seed (UCSD) both 2-0 yep, that makes sense, could go down to sets, if it's sets head to head vs. each other. didn't look that far into the manual. or is it overall sets won not just between the teams? not sure where that is at. too much math at that point Hawaii is in a real tough spot. If Irvine is locked into #2, they have a lot of latitude, although the #1 is big to avoid Hawaii in the semis |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 9, 2024 12:39:59 GMT -5
I thought Irvine would still be the #2 seed regardless of the outcome this weekend against the Beach? Assuming that Irvine lost both matches and Hawai'i won theirs this weekend, both Irvine and Hawai'i would be 4-4 in the conference record. But because Irvine won 3-0 in their first match again Hawaii vs. 3-1 for Hawai'i, so they would have the edge there over Hawai'i? Maybe I forgot something here. you know, that may be correct, after all. I was thinking Hawaii had another advantage Example Hawaii: 6-4, Irvine 6-4 vs. Beach (1st tie-breaker) 0-2. 0-2 does not break it vs. #4-6 seed (CSUN) both 1-1 vs. #5-6 seed (SB) both 2-0 vs. #4-5 seed (UCSD) both 2-0 yep, that makes sense, could go down to sets, if it's sets head to head vs. each other. didn't look that far into the manual. or is it overall sets won not just between the teams? not sure where that is at. too much math at that point Hawaii is in a real tough spot. If Irvine is locked into #2, they have a lot of latitude, although the #1 is big to avoid Hawaii in the semis Yes, after the conference record standing, it would be the head-to-head match record. Since that is also tied, that would come down to the head-to-head set record. And then points..... I think Hawai'i best hope is to at least get into the final by beating Irvine (for the 3rd time) in the semi and hope that UCLA wins their conference, that would position them well to take one of the at-large spots. And the last at-large would have to come down to GCU and Irvine. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 9, 2024 12:55:08 GMT -5
you know, that may be correct, after all. I was thinking Hawaii had another advantage Example Hawaii: 6-4, Irvine 6-4 vs. Beach (1st tie-breaker) 0-2. 0-2 does not break it vs. #4-6 seed (CSUN) both 1-1 vs. #5-6 seed (SB) both 2-0 vs. #4-5 seed (UCSD) both 2-0 yep, that makes sense, could go down to sets, if it's sets head to head vs. each other. didn't look that far into the manual. or is it overall sets won not just between the teams? not sure where that is at. too much math at that point Hawaii is in a real tough spot. If Irvine is locked into #2, they have a lot of latitude, although the #1 is big to avoid Hawaii in the semis Yes, after the conference record standing, it would be the head-to-head match record. Since that is also tied, that would come down to the head-to-head set record. And then points..... I think Hawai'i best hope is to at least get into the final by beating Irvine (for the 3rd time) in the semi and hope that UCLA wins their conference, that would position them well to take one of the at-large spots. And the last at-large would have to come down to GCU and Irvine. as difficult as Hawaii is in position for the BWCT they are 2-1 vs Irvine (and make no mistake, that road win vs. Irvine was MASSIVE for their resume) they beat GCU they beat Loyola, who might win the MIVA bid they beat Ball State on the road only something like Beach losing in the semis would change things - even if they lost to Irvine in the semis they'd be 2-2 vs. Irvine and Irvine probably needing to win teh BWCT anyway. I just can't see IRvine getting in with 10 losses, 9 even would be difficult. but nothing is a done deal, lol |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 9, 2024 13:43:41 GMT -5
Yes, after the conference record standing, it would be the head-to-head match record. Since that is also tied, that would come down to the head-to-head set record. And then points..... I think Hawai'i best hope is to at least get into the final by beating Irvine (for the 3rd time) in the semi and hope that UCLA wins their conference, that would position them well to take one of the at-large spots. And the last at-large would have to come down to GCU and Irvine. as difficult as Hawaii is in position for the BWCT they are 2-1 vs Irvine (and make no mistake, that road win vs. Irvine was MASSIVE for their resume) they beat GCU they beat Loyola, who might win the MIVA bid they beat Ball State on the road only something like Beach losing in the semis would change things - even if they lost to Irvine in the semis they'd be 2-2 vs. Irvine and Irvine probably needing to win teh BWCT anyway. I just can't see IRvine getting in with 10 losses, 9 even would be difficult. but nothing is a done deal, lol That's right! I think Irvine is in a very tough spot right now! It seems like their only option at this point is winning the BWCT. |
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Post by noblesol on Apr 9, 2024 14:36:07 GMT -5
Beach is likely to beat UCI 2x this weekend, the bigger questions are how competitive the matches will be, what lineups will be used, and who will be healthy at the end of it.
Going into the BWCT, it is likely to be Beach the #1 seed, UCI #2 seed. Even if it's not a lock currently, the odds are high that's how it will break.
The BWCT #1 seed plays the winner of the #4 vs. #5; the #2 seed plays the winner of the #3 vs. #6.
Current odds favor Hawai'i being #3 seed, and UCSB #6. UCSD and CSUN, #4 and #5.
If the quarterfinals play to chalk, then for the semis it's UCSD vs. Beach, and Hawaii vs. UCI.
Odds would favor Beach over UCSD, and Beach progressing to the final.
Hawai'i vs. UCI is a coin flip match, but with the home court giving Hawai'i a slight bit of encouragement.
Odds are it's Hawai'i or UCI in the final vs. Beach.
Win or lose, Beach is likely to get a bid to the NCAAT.
Hawaii needs to sweep UCSD this weekend, and be in the BWCT Final, to have favorable at-large chances.
UCI likely needs to win one off Beach this weekend, and be in the BWCT Final, to have at-large chances.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 9, 2024 14:43:41 GMT -5
Beach is likely to beat UCI 2x this weekend, the bigger question is how competitive the matches will be, what lineups will be used, and who will be healthy at the end of it. Going into the BWCT, it is likely to be Beach the #1 seed, UCI #2 seed. Even if it's not a lock currently, the odds are high that's how it will break. The BWCT #1 seed plays the winner of the #4 vs. #5; the #2 seed plays the winner of the #3 vs. #6. Current odds favor Hawai'i being #3 seed, and UCSB #6. UCSD and CSUN, #4 and #5. If the quarterfinals play to chalk, then for the semis it's UCSD vs. Beach, and Hawaii vs. UCI. Odds would favor Beach over UCSD, and Beach progressing to the final. Hawai'i vs. UCI is a coin flip match, but with the home court giving Hawai'i a slight bit of encouragement. Odds are it's Hawai'i or UCI in the final vs. Beach. Win or lose, Beach is likely to get a bid to the NCAAT. Hawaii needs to sweep UCSD this weekend, and be in the BWCT Final, to have favorable at-large chances. UCI likely needs to win one off Beach this weekend, and be in the BWCT Final, to have favorable at-large chances. Beach lost to Irvine in the BWCT last year, not sure why people would think Beach winning 2x vs. a very good Irvine team is 'likely' in a home and home series. ahve to play the games, if Beach wants to feel good about the NCAAs, they better beat Irvine at least once. lots of things can happen. to feel good about an at-large, I'd want to be solidly and without question the #1 at-large candidate, and Beach is simply not in that position ..........yet. too many things and upsets can happen as history has shown. I think Irvine needs to beat Beach 2x to have any at-large chance. a 10 loss Irvine as an at-large? just don't see it |
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