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Post by coahc21 on May 22, 2024 20:19:04 GMT -5
Cabrini also closed now, they were a NCAA playoff participant They did not compete last fall...they were last in the tourney in 2021. |
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Post by Friday on May 22, 2024 20:25:22 GMT -5
Juniata to 3peat or the field? Just heard on good authority that Juniata is returning their three seniors for a 5th year… Who are some other teams expected to do well this year? |
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Post by coahc21 on May 23, 2024 7:37:27 GMT -5
Just heard on good authority that Juniata is returning their three seniors for a 5th year… Who are some other teams expected to do well this year? So hard to say with the Covid year still looming....if anyone can fill in some gaps about who is returning and who is not, and some big recruits coming in, we can probably get a better picture. Looking at the Final Four teams: Hope - returning a lot, including co-national POY (wonder if we have ever had two returning national POY's in the same season before) NYU - losing the most from this group but is still flush with talent - losing 4-5 big pieces (I think? hard to say with the 5th year still looming, I know Holz used her Covid year last year, and they had two grad transfer starters that were in their 5th years, also hearing rumors that their bro left the team) CMS - Holmes returning?? ( we could have 3 national POYs competing this fall!), including Holmes have 4 seniors from last fall...again, uncertain who is using that Covid year -- always a lot of talent I would round out the top contenders with Oshkosh, Northwestern, Emory, Whitewater, Transy, Stevens Point Depending on how the brackets shake out and the limited information that I have, I would put Juniata, Hope, Oshkosh, Northwestern in the Final Four... |
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Post by jcvball22 on May 23, 2024 9:47:38 GMT -5
Just heard on good authority that Juniata is returning their three seniors for a 5th year… Who are some other teams expected to do well this year? CMS will return their setter, Georgia McGovern, for her fifth year. |
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Post by jammaster on May 24, 2024 17:45:48 GMT -5
Just heard on good authority that Juniata is returning their three seniors for a 5th year… Who are some other teams expected to do well this year? From what I am hearing on returning players and recruits, I think MIT might be a little closer to contesting this year. Last year CMS bounced them at MIT's house in round of 16. Most players returning, this year's freshmen ready to contribute and some very good recruits coming in. |
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on May 24, 2024 19:03:46 GMT -5
Who's the top team in each state?
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Post by noreaster on Jun 3, 2024 14:04:44 GMT -5
Who's the top team in each state? Alabama - With Birmingham Southern gone, Huntingdon? Alaska - N/A Arizona- N/A Arkansas - Hendrix California - CMS Colorado - Colorado College Connecticut - Wesleyan Delaware- N/A Florida- N/A Georgia - Emory Hawaii- N/A Idaho- N/A Illinois - North Park Indiana - Hanover Iowa - Cornell Kansas- N/A Kentucky - Transy Louisiana - N/A Maine - Bowdoin Maryland - Johns Hopkins Massachusetts - MIT Michigan - Hope Minnesota - Northwestern Mississippi - Mississippi University for Women? Missouri - Wash U Montana - N/A Nebraska - Nebraska Wesleyan Nevada - N/A New Hampshire - Plymouth State New Jersey - Stevens New Mexico - N/A New York - NYU North Carolina - North Dakota - N/A Ohio - Otterbein Oklahoma - N/A Oregon - George Fox Pennsylvania - Juniata Rhode Island - Johnson and Wales South Carolina - N/A South Dakota - N/A Tennessee - Rhodes Texas - Trinity Utah - N/A Vermont - Middlebury Virginia - Christopher Newport Washington - Pac Lutheran West Virginia - Bethany Wisconsin - Oshkosh Wyoming - N/A Several of these are the only one in their state but several have plenty of competition so go ahead, anyone who wishes, tell us about your team! |
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Post by noreaster on Jun 3, 2024 14:28:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I lost the other thread on pairwise of if it came down, so I'm offering this here... This is from the April minutes of the Championship Committee... NCAA Power Index (NPI). The Championships Committee noted that the Division III
Management Council during its meeting earlier this month approved in concept the
committee’s recommendation to adopt the NCAA Power Index (NPI) as the metric for selecting
non-automatic qualifiers for team sport championships effective with the 2024-25 season.
Accordingly, the committee began discussing the particulars of the metric, including the
process for sport committees to implement the “dials,” or specific components of the metric for
their sport, the interval or frequency of which those dials may be changed, consideration of a
range in which each of the dials must be set, and whether like sports should have the same dial
settings. The committee also discussed its involvement in monitoring the dials over time,
including whether any changes should require Championships Committee approval. The
committee also discussed the plan to educate the membership and coaches, including an
updated FAQ document, additional webinars, and providing a document for each team sport
NCAA Division III Championships Committee
April 23, 2024, Videoconference
Page No. 2
_________
committee that explains the dial settings for its sport. Ultimately, the committee asked staff to
draft a policy document for the committee’s consideration during its May 14 videoconference.
The committee plans to finalize the implementation procedures at that time before the
Management Council considers the concept in final legislative form at its July meeting.Then in the May Agenda it lists the following but there is no report yet, so I guess we wait until the Management Committee meets in July. NCAA Power Index (NPI). (Karen Tessmer and Laura Peterson)
a. Updated timeline. [Supplement No. 2]
b. NPI policies. [Supplement No. 3]
c. NPI FAQ and cheat sheet. [Supplement No. 4]Does anyone know what was in these reports? For those who haven't been keeping up, the NCAA is/may be dumping ranking committees and letting a computer program called the NCAA Power Index do the work of selecting the at-large teams in the tournament. We'll have access to the rankings all season (or at least more than we did with rankings committees). Regional rankings will be lifted from the ranking the computer produces so head to head isn't a thing, common opponents is no longer a thing, and record vs ranked, also no longer a thing. It is supposed to be more fair to the west, though over at www.d3vbwest.com they seem skeptical of that claim. Hockey has used this for years and it's supposed to solve all of the problems in the rest of the sports, starting this fall, but the NCAA isn't saying much about it, and if it isn't a secret now, it was when most of the scheduling happened so this could make for a very interesting tournament come November! If anyone has any more details, please share. |
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Post by coahc21 on Jun 3, 2024 20:07:56 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I lost the other thread on pairwise of if it came down, so I'm offering this here... This is from the April minutes of the Championship Committee... NCAA Power Index (NPI). The Championships Committee noted that the Division III
Management Council during its meeting earlier this month approved in concept the
committee’s recommendation to adopt the NCAA Power Index (NPI) as the metric for selecting
non-automatic qualifiers for team sport championships effective with the 2024-25 season.
Accordingly, the committee began discussing the particulars of the metric, including the
process for sport committees to implement the “dials,” or specific components of the metric for
their sport, the interval or frequency of which those dials may be changed, consideration of a
range in which each of the dials must be set, and whether like sports should have the same dial
settings. The committee also discussed its involvement in monitoring the dials over time,
including whether any changes should require Championships Committee approval. The
committee also discussed the plan to educate the membership and coaches, including an
updated FAQ document, additional webinars, and providing a document for each team sport
NCAA Division III Championships Committee
April 23, 2024, Videoconference
Page No. 2
_________
committee that explains the dial settings for its sport. Ultimately, the committee asked staff to
draft a policy document for the committee’s consideration during its May 14 videoconference.
The committee plans to finalize the implementation procedures at that time before the
Management Council considers the concept in final legislative form at its July meeting.Then in the May Agenda it lists the following but there is no report yet, so I guess we wait until the Management Committee meets in July. NCAA Power Index (NPI). (Karen Tessmer and Laura Peterson)
a. Updated timeline. [Supplement No. 2]
b. NPI policies. [Supplement No. 3]
c. NPI FAQ and cheat sheet. [Supplement No. 4]Does anyone know what was in these reports? For those who haven't been keeping up, the NCAA is/may be dumping ranking committees and letting a computer program called the NCAA Power Index do the work of selecting the at-large teams in the tournament. We'll have access to the rankings all season (or at least more than we did with rankings committees). Regional rankings will be lifted from the ranking the computer produces so head to head isn't a thing, common opponents is no longer a thing, and record vs ranked, also no longer a thing. It is supposed to be more fair to the west, though over at www.d3vbwest.com they seem skeptical of that claim. Hockey has used this for years and it's supposed to solve all of the problems in the rest of the sports, starting this fall, but the NCAA isn't saying much about it, and if it isn't a secret now, it was when most of the scheduling happened so this could make for a very interesting tournament come November! If anyone has any more details, please share. It will be more fair in the sense that west coast teams won't need to travel east to hunt regionally ranked wins. Realistically, the way that NPI will rank is not going to give drastically different results. SOS calculation: Example: Team A plays contests against teams with NPIs of 52, 58 and 70. SOS is calculated as 52 + 58+ 70 = 180; 180 / 3 = 60. SOS = 60. Quality Win Bonus: A bonus applied to wins against “quality” teams. QWB – base: Sport committee determines base NPI value. QWB – multiplier: The amount of bonus awarded for wins against teams with an NPI above the QWB base. Values can range between 0.00 to 1.00. The amount of bonus is determined by the difference between opponent’s NPI value and the QWB base value, multiplied by the QWB multiplier. Example: QWB base is set at 52.00. Multiplier is set at .500. NPI-QWB Base=X; X*.500 = Bonus. Win over team with NPI of 56.00. 56.00 - 52.00 = 4.00; 4.00 * .500 = 2.00 (2.00 is the Quality Win Bonus) Win over team with NPI of 61.00. 61.00 – 52.00 = 9.00; 9.00 * .500 = 4.50 (4.50 is the Quality Win Bonus) Example: QWB base is set at 51.00. Multiplier is set at .333. Win over team with NPI of 60.00. 60.00 – 51.00 = 9.00; 9.00 * .333 = 3.00 (3.00 is the Quality Win Bonus) Win over team with NPI of 57.00. 57.00 – 51.00 = 6.00; 6.00 * .333 = 2.00 (2.00 is the Quality Win Bonus) There will also be a Home/Away Multiplier (if the sporty committee finds it appropriate) Example: Weights set at 1.2/0.8 Away wins/home losses weigh as 1.2 wins/losses. Home wins/away losses weigh as 0.8 wins/losses. |
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Post by jammaster on Jun 4, 2024 16:46:17 GMT -5
Who's the top team in each state? Alabama - With Birmingham Southern gone, Huntingdon? Alaska - N/A Arizona- N/A Arkansas - Hendrix California - CMS Colorado - Colorado College Connecticut - Wesleyan Delaware- N/A Florida- N/A Georgia - Emory Hawaii- N/A Idaho- N/A Illinois - North Park Indiana - Hanover Iowa - Cornell Kansas- N/A Kentucky - Transy Louisiana - N/A Maine - Bowdoin Maryland - Johns Hopkins Massachusetts - MIT Michigan - Hope Minnesota - Northwestern Mississippi - Mississippi University for Women? Missouri - Wash U Montana - N/A Nebraska - Nebraska Wesleyan Nevada - N/A New Hampshire - Plymouth State New Jersey - Stevens New Mexico - N/A New York - NYU North Carolina - North Dakota - N/A Ohio - Otterbein Oklahoma - N/A Oregon - George Fox Pennsylvania - Juniata Rhode Island - Johnson and Wales South Carolina - N/A South Dakota - N/A Tennessee - Rhodes Texas - Trinity Utah - N/A Vermont - Middlebury Virginia - Christopher Newport Washington - Pac Lutheran West Virginia - Bethany Wisconsin - Oshkosh Wyoming - N/A Several of these are the only one in their state but several have plenty of competition so go ahead, anyone who wishes, tell us about your team! This is a good list from what I have seen. Thanks! |
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Post by coahc21 on Jun 7, 2024 9:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by noreaster on Jun 7, 2024 15:25:40 GMT -5
So first the easy stuff - The D3 WVB committee decided not to try to award fractions of results for a 5th set win/loss, and they decided not to weight home and away matches. Also, they won't count results that lower your NPI but you need a minimum of 10 good wins for that to take effect. Someone can tell me if I'm wrong but I think this is the Ramapo Rule - last season Ramapo brought in a group of D2 players from a school that closed, but didn't have a chance to upgrade their schedule so they finished the regular season 26-1 but only 7 of those matches were against the RPI top 150, and only 5 were against the top 200 of Pablo or Massey, yet supposedly they would have been in a position to earn an at large bid. The medium stuff... -20% of your NPI is your winning % -80% of your NPI is your SOS (only it's not the SOS that was used before, this is the average NPI of your opponents) And the hard mathy stuff - Quality Win Bonus are set to 55.5 and .6. I honestly don't know what that means. Also, they won't count results that lower your NPI but you need a minimum of 10 good wins for that to take effect. Someone can tell me if I'm wrong but I think this is the Ramapo Rule - last season Ramapo brought in a group of D2 players from a school that closed, but didn't have a chance to upgrade their schedule so they finished the regular season 26-1 but only 7 of those matches were against the RPI top 150, and only 5 were against the top 200 of Pablo or Massey, yet supposedly they would have been in a position to earn an at large bid. It seems like this way you need at least 10 good data points and if some of them lower your NPI than so be it. Part of the point of the NPI was to help teams that are remote and don't have access to that many opponents, but this would seem to go against that. We'll see. And if I'm reading this correctly, they can only change the values every OTHER year so while this fall's D3 schedules were made to maximize teams chances under the old system, in 2025 coaches can try to schedule for the new system AND know what the numbers will be. Oh, and the webinar where they explain all this is coming. It's been coming for a while and it's still coming. The season is about 80ish days away. No hurry. D3VBwest has broken this down in more detail and seems to have a much greater understanding of the mathyness than I do. d3vbwest.wordpress.com/2024/06/07/npi-parameters-released/Anyone have any thoughts, insights or rants they want to embark on? |
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Post by coahc21 on Jun 8, 2024 16:50:39 GMT -5
And the hard mathy stuff - Quality Win Bonus are set to 55.5 and .6. I honestly don't know what that means. This means that a team's QWB wil set at 55.5. So only opponents over 55.5 NPI earn a QWB. 0.6 is the multiplier.... For example. Team A beats a team whose NPI is 65.5. To calculate the QWB, 65.5 - 55.5 = 10 10x0.6 QWB = 6 How that figures into the 20/80, Win pct/SOS, I do not know haha |
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Post by vbnerd on Jun 8, 2024 22:46:30 GMT -5
And the hard mathy stuff - Quality Win Bonus are set to 55.5 and .6. I honestly don't know what that means. This means that a team's QWB wil set at 55.5. So only opponents over 55.5 NPI earn a QWB. 0.6 is the multiplier.... For example. Team A beats a team whose NPI is 65.5. To calculate the QWB, 65.5 - 55.5 = 10 10x0.6 QWB = 6 How that figures into the 20/80, Win pct/SOS, I do not know haha Clear as mud!  |
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Post by coahc21 on Jun 9, 2024 8:20:08 GMT -5
The QWB effectively replaces the regionally ranked wins but theoretically won't reward teams for beating the ranked teams in those regions where the back half of rankings are pretty weak....in that way you can make an argument that it helps the west coast. Committees were able to make that distinction of quality ranked wins versus 6th or 7th ranked teams, so again....most of it all came out in the wash in my opinion anyway.
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