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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 16, 2024 11:44:46 GMT -5
Not necessarily fully in the loop - but did I read the ACC went with a 20 game conference season? I don't think they are among those gaming the system? Did the SEC drop to just 16 games? I know the Big 12 expanded to 18 games. It’s plays a role, but I’m not certain the difference between 16, 18, and 20 conference matches make a huge difference. Things that do: - Maximizing non-conference wins. When the Pac-12 played 22 matches, I think the bigger issue was only 3 weekends of non-conference - Maximizing the top teams playing each other more often. The easiest way to do this would be a conference tournament with byes and double byes. But if you’re playing a single round robin +3 like the Big Ten, you can commit fully to unbalanced schedules. # of Conference games is huge. The SEC will avoid 30 losses on its win/loss by playing 16 instead of 20.
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 16, 2024 13:38:02 GMT -5
Not necessarily fully in the loop - but did I read the ACC went with a 20 game conference season? I don't think they are among those gaming the system? Did the SEC drop to just 16 games? I know the Big 12 expanded to 18 games. It’s plays a role, but I’m not certain the difference between 16, 18, and 20 conference matches make a huge difference. Things that do: - Maximizing non-conference wins. When the Pac-12 played 22 matches, I think the bigger issue was only 3 weekends of non-conference - Maximizing the top teams playing each other more often. The easiest way to do this would be a conference tournament with byes and double byes. But if you’re playing a single round robin +3 like the Big Ten, you can commit fully to unbalanced schedules. What you do in the non-conference is way more important than the # of conference matches - I agree with this. But if you want to get over 1/2 your teams into the tournament - that would be easier with 16 conference matches vs. 20 matches. As for top teams playing more often in conference - that matters for Stanford and Pittsburgh in terms of getting a regional seed or a regular seed - but it doesn't necessarily maximize the # of ACC teams making the tournament (I don't think). Or to put differently - I think the ACC (if they are doing this) is trying to help their best teams and not necessarily trying to maximize the total # of teams getting a bid.
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 16, 2024 13:47:19 GMT -5
Remembering back when the B1G added Rutgers and Maryland - then proceeded to have a very bad non-conference season. They ended up with less teams in the tournament and we were wondering if this was because of Rutgers and Maryland bringing down the conference.
Anyway - that was just adding 2 teams - it caused major unpredictability at that time. We have 10X that unpredictability going into this season (in terms of RPI). It will most certainly be different - it could also be very interesting.
If I have this straight:
SEC dropping from 18 to 16 matches and adding 2 more schools. Big 12 increasing from 16 to 18 matches - adding 4 schools from the PAC and losing 2 schools to the SEC. ACC going from 18 matches to 20 - adding 2 schools from the PAC and SMU. B1G staying put at 20 matches - but adding 4 schools from the PAC.
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Post by PostPrime on Apr 21, 2024 6:25:01 GMT -5
After hearing about Illinois and their struggles I change my vote from 11 to 10.
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