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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 1, 2024 7:39:54 GMT -5
One has more WAY more circumstantial evidence than the other. You have no evidence about how Melania felt about Donald when they dating, or when they got married (marrying for love vs money), while we KNOW this dog bit people at least 24 different times.
See the difference? If you don't, blame your TDS. What's more; I can honestly say that my statement was speculation while you can't honestly admit your misogynistic, hate fueled comments about Melania are driven by your dislike of Trump. Again, your TDS at work. Commander, then a puppy, joined the Bidens at the White House later that year. But in the latter part of 2022, Secret Service agents raised concerns about his aggressive behavior. The dog bit several agents a total of 10 times as of January according to emails obtained in a lawsuit filed by conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch.
Oh look, talking out your ass without knowing the facts again. Oh big fonts, why would you even? www.cnn.com/2024/02/21/politics/commander-biden-secret-service-bites-white-house/index.htmlCommander Biden, President Joe Biden’s family dog, bit US Secret Service personnel in at least 24 incidents at the White House and other locations, according to new internal USSS documents obtained by CNN.
My advice to you is that you should, breathe and then look to see if the story is corroborated elsewhere before prematurely spouting off. Also, provide a link so that we don't think you're making things up in a desperate attempt to be right. *I'm heavily rolling my eyes at you for wasting my time by looking up a story you could've easily done so yourself*
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Post by jsquare on May 1, 2024 8:36:36 GMT -5
Commander, then a puppy, joined the Bidens at the White House later that year. But in the latter part of 2022, Secret Service agents raised concerns about his aggressive behavior. The dog bit several agents a total of 10 times as of January according to emails obtained in a lawsuit filed by conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch.
Oh look, talking out your ass without knowing the facts again. Oh big fonts, why would you even? www.cnn.com/2024/02/21/politics/commander-biden-secret-service-bites-white-house/index.htmlCommander Biden, President Joe Biden’s family dog, bit US Secret Service personnel in at least 24 incidents at the White House and other locations, according to new internal USSS documents obtained by CNN.
My advice to you is that you should, breathe and then look to see if the story is corroborated elsewhere before prematurely spouting off. Also, provide a link so that we don't think you're making things up in a desperate attempt to be right. *I'm heavily rolling my eyes at you for wasting my time by looking up a story you could've easily done so yourself* www.npr.org/2023/10/04/1203808674/bidens-dog-commander-has-left-the-white-house
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 1, 2024 8:55:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the link! Also mentioned in the link; She did not say where Commander was staying, or whether he would be returning to the White House.I'm sure they found him a nice farm to go to where he could run around and be happy. That's sarcasm btw.
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Post by jsquare on May 1, 2024 9:07:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the link! Also mentioned in the link; She did not say where Commander was staying, or whether he would be returning to the White House.I'm sure they found him a nice farm to go to where he could run around and be happy. That's sarcasm btw. As I am sure Melania married Donald out of love as they are living happily ever after. That's making fun of your ignorance btw.
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Post by tomclen on May 1, 2024 10:39:05 GMT -5
You do have to appreciate the creativity of some people on the interwebs:
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Post by volleyguy on May 1, 2024 10:39:48 GMT -5
You do have to appreciate the creativity of some people on the interwebs: lol
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Post by bluepenquin on May 1, 2024 11:12:08 GMT -5
Mike Pence was great as VP. I think it is likely that Scott would be just as good. Scott acted the same as Pence on 1/6 - in terms of certifying the election and disagreeing with Trump. His words have continued to be at odds with what Trump did or thought after the election. Now - you can go with the idea that he wouldn't do this again, but I will go with the idea that what people have done and what they have said in the past is a better predictor of future behavior than your notion that Scott would be more likely to flip? Why in the world do you think Trump would pick Pence 2.0? The fact that you’re actually contemplating that as a possibility is evidence to me of your rationalization and delusion. You’re going to support Trump in the upcoming election, that’s become obvious in the last few months. His VP choice isn’t going to change that, and I think you know that. Never said Trump would pick Scott to be his VP. I just said that, 1) Scott is the #1 choice on betting markets right now, 2) Scott has a clear recent history that shows he would have acted the same as Pence on 1/6 and would do it in the future. As for Trump motives - 1) this is his last election, so there would never be a repeat of 2020 reelection. 2) he may actually care more about trying to win this year and views having a mini-me as his VP choice may cost him the election, 3) When you come right down to it - his VP choice isn't going to be important or impact his 2nd term. He could just go to the pre-1960 Presidents that kept their VP out of the loop and just basically ignored them - but use them to get elected. There is no way I would ever support Biden - besides being completely unqualified to be President, his Presidency has been a complete disaster. The Democratic party has gone so far Woke and to the left - that creates a clear danger to the country IMO. And then Trump also is unqualified to be President and creates a different danger to the country. There can be no happiness for the winning side, only happiness in the side the loses. America loses regardless.
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Post by jsquare on May 1, 2024 11:14:59 GMT -5
Why in the world do you think Trump would pick Pence 2.0? The fact that you’re actually contemplating that as a possibility is evidence to me of your rationalization and delusion. You’re going to support Trump in the upcoming election, that’s become obvious in the last few months. His VP choice isn’t going to change that, and I think you know that. Never said Trump would pick Scott to be his VP. I just said that, 1) Scott is the #1 choice on betting markets right now, 2) Scott has a clear recent history that shows he would have acted the same as Pence on 1/6 and would do it in the future. As for Trump motives - 1) this is his last election, so there would never be a repeat of 2020 reelection. 2) he may actually care more about trying to win this year and views having a mini-me as his VP choice may cost him the election, 3) When you come right down to it - his VP choice isn't going to be important or impact his 2nd term. He could just go to the pre-1960 Presidents that kept their VP out of the loop and just basically ignored them - but use them to get elected. There is no way I would ever support Biden - besides being completely unqualified to be President, his Presidency has been a complete disaster. The Democratic party has gone so far Woke and to the left - that creates a clear danger to the country IMO. And then Trump also is unqualified to be President and creates a different danger to the country. There can be no happiness for the winning side, only happiness in the side the loses. America loses regardless. How has Biden's presidency been a disaster? If Trump wins who do you think will be VP in his third term and beyond?
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Post by bluepenquin on May 1, 2024 11:18:44 GMT -5
I didn't think that would be the reason for Scott - but I guess given his race that could be an assumption in play. Prying Democrats (whether black or white) isn't going to work. It is getting Republican leaning Independents and Republicans that cannot stand Trump to vote for Trump. I agree with what you're saying but... I'm not convinced Scott is the man for that job. (Not sure anyone is the one for that job) Nothing about him speaks "Come follow me!" to me. People like Haley, Scott, Rubio - people that aren't in the MAGA movement or came from the MAGA movement - are the types that would signal those still undecided to potentially vote for Trump while holding their nose. Trump may decide that he doesn't want those voters, but I think he will need them to win. Besides getting out your base - Trump and Biden are trying to convince people that don't like either of them to vote for them. They can try and make the other seem worse, but how can they be worse than what they already know. Trump picking a VP that is just from his base of loyal supporters isn't going to help.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 1, 2024 12:35:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the link! Also mentioned in the link; She did not say where Commander was staying, or whether he would be returning to the White House.I'm sure they found him a nice farm to go to where he could run around and be happy. That's sarcasm btw. As I am sure Melania married Donald out of love as they are living happily ever after. That's making fun of your ignorance btw. Hey, you’re the one who can’t admit that you nothing of how relationships work, much less the nature of M & D’s relationship in 2005. As always, that’s a you problem.
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Post by jsquare on May 1, 2024 12:39:40 GMT -5
As I am sure Melania married Donald out of love as they are living happily ever after. That's making fun of your ignorance btw. Hey, you’re the one who can’t admit that you nothing of how relationships work, much less the nature of M & D’s relationship in 2005. As always, that’s a you problem. Why in the world would I talk to you about how relationships work, given the fact that you can't conclude Melania married for money? Now that's a YOU problem.would I talk to you about how relationships work, given
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Post by jsquare on May 1, 2024 12:40:43 GMT -5
You do have to appreciate the creativity of some people on the interwebs: But in her defense, she didn't lead him to a gravel pit.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 1, 2024 14:52:28 GMT -5
I agree with what you're saying but... I'm not convinced Scott is the man for that job. (Not sure anyone is the one for that job) Nothing about him speaks "Come follow me!" to me. People like Haley, Scott, Rubio - people that aren't in the MAGA movement or came from the MAGA movement - are the types that would signal those still undecided to potentially vote for Trump while holding their nose. Trump may decide that he doesn't want those voters, but I think he will need them to win. Besides getting out your base - Trump and Biden are trying to convince people that don't like either of them to vote for them. They can try and make the other seem worse, but how can they be worse than what they already know. Trump picking a VP that is just from his base of loyal supporters isn't going to help. I’m not sure what will help Trump other than a continued steady decline from Biden and the fear of a Kamala run United States.
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Post by volleyguy on May 1, 2024 15:43:21 GMT -5
Why in the world do you think Trump would pick Pence 2.0? The fact that you’re actually contemplating that as a possibility is evidence to me of your rationalization and delusion. You’re going to support Trump in the upcoming election, that’s become obvious in the last few months. His VP choice isn’t going to change that, and I think you know that. Never said Trump would pick Scott to be his VP. I just said that, 1) Scott is the #1 choice on betting markets right now, 2) Scott has a clear recent history that shows he would have acted the same as Pence on 1/6 and would do it in the future. As for Trump motives - 1) this is his last election, so there would never be a repeat of 2020 reelection. 2) he may actually care more about trying to win this year and views having a mini-me as his VP choice may cost him the election, 3) When you come right down to it - his VP choice isn't going to be important or impact his 2nd term. He could just go to the pre-1960 Presidents that kept their VP out of the loop and just basically ignored them - but use them to get elected. There is no way I would ever support Biden - besides being completely unqualified to be President, his Presidency has been a complete disaster. The Democratic party has gone so far Woke and to the left - that creates a clear danger to the country IMO. And then Trump also is unqualified to be President and creates a different danger to the country. There can be no happiness for the winning side, only happiness in the side the loses. America loses regardless. You posted the odds, and I said Trump wouldn’t pick Scott—and then you went into a long counter-argument for Scott. It’s strange that now you resort to saying I never said Trump would.
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Post by bluepenquin on May 1, 2024 15:59:02 GMT -5
Never said Trump would pick Scott to be his VP. I just said that, 1) Scott is the #1 choice on betting markets right now, 2) Scott has a clear recent history that shows he would have acted the same as Pence on 1/6 and would do it in the future. As for Trump motives - 1) this is his last election, so there would never be a repeat of 2020 reelection. 2) he may actually care more about trying to win this year and views having a mini-me as his VP choice may cost him the election, 3) When you come right down to it - his VP choice isn't going to be important or impact his 2nd term. He could just go to the pre-1960 Presidents that kept their VP out of the loop and just basically ignored them - but use them to get elected. There is no way I would ever support Biden - besides being completely unqualified to be President, his Presidency has been a complete disaster. The Democratic party has gone so far Woke and to the left - that creates a clear danger to the country IMO. And then Trump also is unqualified to be President and creates a different danger to the country. There can be no happiness for the winning side, only happiness in the side the loses. America loses regardless. You posted the odds, and I said Trump wouldn’t pick Scott—and then you went into a long counter-argument for Scott. It’s strange that now you resort to saying I never said Trump would. I guess this back and forth is useless. My claims on how I think Scott would help Trump and/or Scott would make me more likely to tolerate a Trump presidency were in no way a reflection on what I thought Trump would do. I am just stating - among the 4 top likely VPs on the betting markets - only Scott would cause me to rather have Trump win. And this is because he voted to certify the election and was up front at the time and after that Pence did the right thing. Admittedly a low bar - but one that at least 2 of the top 4 on Trump's list do not pass. From what I understand on your position - you don't see Trump selecting Scott, for which I agree. And that Scott wouldn't behave like Pence did if that type of situation came before him - which I disagree.
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