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Post by nonathleticperson on Jun 13, 2024 12:46:07 GMT -5
The Plummer hate is wild. She was the only player not getting quality sets from LC last night... Does she need to do more with those and be better... yes! But it was just one match, we need to see more of her than one match. What did we learn about LC? Ya'll need to chill a bit. This isn't an argument to start her over Larson either... we need to evaluate what she will do, this year, with this team. She could be a difference maker at some point. she’s started four and has been ineffective in all of them. Larson has proven to be way more effective off any setter with any quality of sets. there needs to be a big gap between Plummer and Larson’s offense and blocking to justify the difference in passing, defense, and serving imo. right now Plummer has that gap in blocking, but the gap in offense is Larson hitting like .200 points better than her Larson is also 37 years old. You know what you have with Larson whether she plays now or not. Playing Plummer now (in the 50 days leading up to Paris) is very much for the present and the future.
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Post by Reach on Jun 13, 2024 12:47:27 GMT -5
she’s started four and has been ineffective in all of them. Larson has proven to be way more effective off any setter with any quality of sets. there needs to be a big gap between Plummer and Larson’s offense and blocking to justify the difference in passing, defense, and serving imo. right now Plummer has that gap in blocking, but the gap in offense is Larson hitting like .200 points better than her Larson is also 37 years old. You know what you have with Larson whether she plays now or not. Playing Plummer now (in the 50 days leading up to Paris) is very much for the present and the future. exactly and if she isn't hurting the team, which she really didn't last night, then she should be playing some to let her get used to LC... IIRC it took her awhile to meld with Wolosz LC had every other hitter firing last night... you can have an off night with a pin when that happens.
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Post by nonathleticperson on Jun 13, 2024 12:49:13 GMT -5
Larson is also 37 years old. You know what you have with Larson whether she plays now or not. Playing Plummer now (in the 50 days leading up to Paris) is very much for the present and the future. exactly and if she isn't hurting the team, which she really didn't last night, then she should be playing some. LC had every other hitter firing last night... you can have an off night with a pin when that happens. I don't think Carlini's setting to the right pin was particularly good after the first set. The speed seemed to accelerate as the match went on. You could notice it audibly. Drews didn't have enough time for her diaphragm to expand and stopped letting out extended grunts.
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 13, 2024 12:50:07 GMT -5
Y’all acting like Plummer is a first year rookie is comical.
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Post by junior1 on Jun 13, 2024 12:50:08 GMT -5
it will be fun to see many of these ladies play pro in the u.s. next year, then fans will see how these ladies compare better. Until then, the biases are apparent. collegiate ball is lower than pro ball. international pro ball is played at different levels in different nations. the Olympics and international play are supposed to be higher than that, even tho some programs have issues with the skill, size. power and stress of those moments. VNL is more interesting in non Olympic years, when it isn't being used as a vehicle to prepare. Our less experienced players will take time to get used to International play. I remember talking with Jenny Lang Ping some years ago and she said that the number of seasoned players in the U.S. determined more than anything else. & that our process of entitling and excusing players ofttimes made their growth difficult. Soon, We'll see if that changes.
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Post by Reach on Jun 13, 2024 12:50:15 GMT -5
exactly and if she isn't hurting the team, which she really didn't last night, then she should be playing some. LC had every other hitter firing last night... you can have an off night with a pin when that happens. I don't think Carlini's setting to the right pin was particularly good after the first set. The speed seemed to accelerate as the match went on. You could notice it audibly. Drews didn't have enough time for her diaphragm to expand and stopped letting out extended grunts. lol .. I noticed the speed was increased but they worked it out.
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Post by Reach on Jun 13, 2024 12:50:44 GMT -5
Y’all acting like Plummer is a first year rookie is comical. She just started playing last week... WDYM
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 13, 2024 12:51:48 GMT -5
Y’all acting like Plummer is a first year rookie is comical. She just started playing last week... WDYM Well, she played like it then.
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Post by nonathleticperson on Jun 13, 2024 12:53:39 GMT -5
It's just so strange to me that people have such extreme opinions. Maybe I'm just not as involved as y'all since you've been following since NCAA ball.
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Post by hopefuldawg on Jun 13, 2024 12:57:00 GMT -5
The high I get from watching someone set a quick from the 3-meter line... 😩
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 13, 2024 12:59:20 GMT -5
I just thought Plummer looked off, maybe hesitant, in her movement. A bit disconnected overall. That may have to do with lack of familiarity in the US system and Carlini. Toward the end she pulled off some kills she had no business getting based on the timing, position and body shape. Things will probably smooth out in attack, but think her passing will always be a weak spot.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jun 13, 2024 13:08:40 GMT -5
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Post by schmidty on Jun 13, 2024 13:18:30 GMT -5
Is it just me or does Plummer's transitions look a little bit clunky/slow. She's only getting 1-2 steps of approach by the time the set gets to her on some of these. Seems like that's what caused the tipping. Now this could be just from Carlini putting too much pace on the sets, but some of these weren't all that fast. I just want high balls to Plummer like she got in the 2019 NCAA Championship game that torched Wisconsin (to my dismay)
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Post by Reach on Jun 13, 2024 13:22:53 GMT -5
She just started playing last week... WDYM Well, she played like it then. Leave my gurl alone.
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Post by nonathleticperson on Jun 13, 2024 13:30:34 GMT -5
This is cool! Where do you get all the baseline videos from?
Plum set-by-set.
Set 1. She's gotta put that away. Set 2. She's late
Set 3. Bad hitting error Set 4. Bad footwork Set 5. High ball she absolutely detonates lol Set 6. Good kill. Set 7. Impossible OOS Set 8. Tough OOS ball, decent swing. Good block defense by the Dutch Set 9. Pipe hit she's gotta put in play. Set 10. Transition OOS. Seam closes on her and gets roofed. Needs to score here. Set 11. OOS, 9m set distance, tough but she needs to get her feet to the ball and take a crack here, if she wants to be that next level player.
Set 12. Impossibly low and inside bic set. She is half a step behind tempo (assuming it's a 3rd step tempo), but still lol. Set 13. Tough inside OOS set by JWO. I don't particularly like the decision to swipe out of the court there by Plum. Those are the plays only she can better the ball and has to do better on, even if tough. Set 14. Great in-system set and kill. Set 15. She's dreadfully caught inside but manages to win the point with a power tip. Set 16. Bail out swing. No fault of anyone (besides her own because I think she's the one who muffed that serve receive) Set 17. Block touch Set 18. Best example of her being very uncomfortable with the speed Set 19. OOS set goes wide. She has to go inside out which is why she two hand tips it. Elite arm swings would still be able to take a crack at it, but she doesn't have that (yet?).
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