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Post by houstonbear15 on Jun 19, 2024 18:23:39 GMT -5
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Jun 19, 2024 18:24:00 GMT -5
This is a huge get IMO. People need to watch this girl. Yeah. She might be the only top opposite committed in this class so far.
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Post by wildcat403 on Jun 19, 2024 18:26:50 GMT -5
A ton of schools killing out the gate.
*cries in Kentucky*
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Post by houstonbear15 on Jun 19, 2024 18:27:39 GMT -5
This is a huge get IMO. People need to watch this girl. She seems to have the skill set and athleticism to be a Stephanie Samedy like OPP. Very excited for this commitment!
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Post by huskervolleyfan14 on Jun 19, 2024 19:45:23 GMT -5
New add: Izzy Picard, OH, Downstate Juniors to Navy
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Post by practicesafesets on Jun 19, 2024 19:53:43 GMT -5
I imagine Fuerbringer had to have some part in this. Good pickup for Wisco. Per the article on Flanagan's commitment, Fuerbringer was absolutely a driving factor. What? Charlie hasn't even been at Wisconsin for a season. Was thinking Flanagan would stay on the West Coast
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Post by huskervolleyfan14 on Jun 19, 2024 19:54:15 GMT -5
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Post by huskerjen on Jun 19, 2024 19:55:58 GMT -5
One of my favorite prospects for this cycle. High upside, still a little raw, but I think she'll be very good.
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Post by huskervolleyfan14 on Jun 19, 2024 19:57:34 GMT -5
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Post by dizzydean on Jun 19, 2024 21:03:35 GMT -5
FWIW, club coaches should be prepared for not getting much done in June next year because every school in America will have camps in June next year.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jun 19, 2024 21:21:07 GMT -5
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Post by transformer on Jun 19, 2024 22:12:22 GMT -5
I assume you’re a Wisconsin fan from your username, and your point is perfectly valid when it comes to top 10 programs. However, the current rule makes it a mad scramble for another 300 schools. I actually agree that is marginally less bad for Top 10 recruiting. But commits in the first five days of being able to have a recruiting conversation to places like Indiana, Georgia and Ole Miss reeks of either (a) impermissible recruiting tactics and/or (b) uninformed decisions. “It’s nice to meet you, your offer is good for 24 hours” is absolutely happening and is not an improvement in my opinion. I don't think there's any "it's nice to meet you, here's an offer." Perhaps I'm naive. My perception is that a ton of the heavy lifting is being done at summer camps, the SAs get a good feel for which coaching staffs and environments they like and so by the time they're rising juniors many of them have a good handle on where they want to go. That being said, I would be in agreement with your subsequent post suggesting giving some cushion of time where coaches are allowed to talk to SAs but not give official offers; I don't think it has to be a ton of time but it would be better for those SAs who want to weigh their options a bit more. The whole idea to switch to June 15 contact was to slow down recruiting and to have most of the recruiting costs on the universities. With June camps it’s back on the prospects to pay for all the travel and camps fees. Some are missing school and most are missing team practices all so they can commit early. The window of decisions is horrible for the prospects and the universities. It was better when the prospects could contact the schools they liked early and have meaningful communication about their options. Sure a few went earlier than now, but it was based on actual communication, and at the discretion of the athletes, not the coaches.
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Post by Friday on Jun 19, 2024 22:45:55 GMT -5
I don't think there's any "it's nice to meet you, here's an offer." Perhaps I'm naive. My perception is that a ton of the heavy lifting is being done at summer camps, the SAs get a good feel for which coaching staffs and environments they like and so by the time they're rising juniors many of them have a good handle on where they want to go. That being said, I would be in agreement with your subsequent post suggesting giving some cushion of time where coaches are allowed to talk to SAs but not give official offers; I don't think it has to be a ton of time but it would be better for those SAs who want to weigh their options a bit more. The whole idea to switch to June 15 contact was to slow down recruiting and to have most of the recruiting costs on the universities. With June camps it’s back on the prospects to pay for all the travel and camps fees. Some are missing school and most are missing team practices all so they can commit early. The window of decisions is horrible for the prospects and the universities. It was better when the prospects could contact the schools they liked early and have meaningful communication about their options. Sure a few went earlier than now, but it was based on actual communication, and at the discretion of the athletes, not the coaches. Compounded by the fact that they can’t take official or unofficial visits until August so only way to get on campus is for recruits to pay for camp. I agree old way was better in a lot of ways. Quick decisions and short deadlines is not going to be good in the long run.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2024 22:54:37 GMT -5
The whole idea to switch to June 15 contact was to slow down recruiting and to have most of the recruiting costs on the universities. With June camps it’s back on the prospects to pay for all the travel and camps fees. Some are missing school and most are missing team practices all so they can commit early. The window of decisions is horrible for the prospects and the universities. It was better when the prospects could contact the schools they liked early and have meaningful communication about their options. Sure a few went earlier than now, but it was based on actual communication, and at the discretion of the athletes, not the coaches. Compounded by the fact that they can’t take official or unofficial visits until August so only way to get on campus is for recruits to pay for camp. I agree old way was better in a lot of ways. Quick decisions and short deadlines is not going to be good in the long run. Completely agree. These changes voted on by coaches is a complete miss. Terrible timing and no one is getting to have a decent visit to the schools, visiting the players and making a sound decision. Its all crap now. Just wait for all the new rules coming with the ncaa settlement. It’s going to be a complete %*$# show. I think the net result will be more kids chase the money and never graduate. Net less money to players and more futures destroyed.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 19, 2024 23:22:14 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out what benefit the larger volleyball community gets from these new recruiting rules? Best I can tell, nothing has really changed re who goes where. The most elite recruits are still ending up at the same handful of schools and end up committing very early (within days), the next tier get filtered into the same handful of stalwart second next tier schools or whichever programs are "in fashion" for the recruiting cycle and end up committing still relatively early (within months). Everyone else gets recruited/commit some time within the next year (which was, what I assume, one of the goal of these new rules.... as many recruits as possible committing later).
To make matters worse, there are more transfers then ever, even among underclassmen who had these new recruiting rules, even among elite recruits! Later commitment times leading to players making better decisions.... oh phewy. Tell that to Jurevicious, Kubik, and Mendelson, who all left a team that went to the national championship match the year prior and could have written their ticket to any school out of high school.
Personally, I vote for the old method. At least back then, there was a chance that ANY coach could identify talent early, nurture the relationship and develop a rapport. Now, they can't do that. By time they end their 16's year, there really isn't that much unidentified talent. It's all pretty much known at that point (overall ceiling notwithstanding), and coaches have no ability to make a personal connection before that player becomes known. Nowadays, by time schools can have any meaningful interaction with recruits, the talent is known and schools like Texas and Nebraska can then scoop in on day 1 with their attention and money, and sans some family or non-volleyball related personal desire to go to a particular school, most schools just don't stand a chance.
The rich are just as rich (or getting richer), and players aren't making any better decisions about their future. I call these new recruiting rules a loss for volleyball as a whole.
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