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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 25, 2024 6:16:31 GMT -5
you always manage to find someone to agree with your political views or desire, but that doesn’t make it fact. It’s their opinion. But common sense tells you otherwise. And common sense is telling all these voters otherwise. Joe‘s system is a !!!!###$$$!!!ing disaster. His ideas are a !!!!###$$$!!!ing disaster. This entire administration is a !!!!###$$$!!!ing disaster. When you have young girls being raped and murdered by illegals and Democrats are more concerned that we call them “undocumented” i then you have a party completely out of touch I had hoped that you would influence Frank to post with more substance. Instead, the opposite seems to be occurring. You are slipping into Frank's territory of all insults all of the time amid comments too extreme to be taken seriously. Exactly what I would expect. Some sanctimonious reply, as if you’re the voice of reason on this board. Get real.
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Post by n00b on Jun 25, 2024 6:28:01 GMT -5
It’s such a wild turn we’ve seen in politics that Democrats are bragging that CEOs unanimously support them. That's your takeaway from the clip? OK. What’s your takeaway?
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Post by aardvark on Jun 25, 2024 6:49:35 GMT -5
I had hoped that you would influence Frank to post with more substance. Instead, the opposite seems to be occurring. You are slipping into Frank's territory of all insults all of the time amid comments too extreme to be taken seriously. Exactly what I would expect. Some sanctimonious reply, as if you’re the voice of reason on this board. Get real. I'm pretty sure that if the trend is obvious to me, then you're aware of it too. I presume you are overwhelmed "fighting the good fight" against the other side, so you are cutting corners, so to speak. I'm not sure why you're so dedicated to your cause. You know Trump is unworthy of your efforts. What little good that existed in the old GOP is being lost in service to him and others like him who profit off people like you (Murdoch). By the way, when I wrote my last post, I was certain you'd call me out for being sanctimonious. Because it's the lazy response.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 25, 2024 7:34:01 GMT -5
Exactly what I would expect. Some sanctimonious reply, as if you’re the voice of reason on this board. Get real. I'm pretty sure that if the trend is obvious to me, then you're aware of it too. I presume you are overwhelmed "fighting the good fight" against the other side, so you are cutting corners, so to speak. I'm not sure why you're so dedicated to your cause. You know Trump is unworthy of your efforts. What little good that existed in the old GOP is being lost in service to him and others like him who profit off people like you (Murdoch). By the way, when I wrote my last post, I was certain you'd call me out for being sanctimonious. Because it's the lazy response. Democrats have never been able to separate Donald Trump’s policies from his personality. Even today you’re just not capable. You managed to do it with your own party. John F. Kennedy was a cheating pig. Bill Clinton was a cheating awful pig. But you didn’t have a deep-seeded problem with that. It just shows the Democrats inability to see the truth on both sides. You justified can’t do it. Given that Donald Trump is ahead and every single swing state, surely you people of asked yourself? What did these people see that I don’t? Only a sanctimonious arrogant ass would not be able to do that.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 25, 2024 8:02:28 GMT -5
Bill cheated on his wife, but did a pretty good at his job. Same can be said for JFK. Trump? No. He just cheated.
Does Trump have policies? Build a wall. Does that count? Tariffs. OK. I guess that's a policy. He certainly favors policies that help the rich. But I get the sense he relies on other people to devise them. What other policies does Trump have? You keep linking his name with the word "policies", so I guess you consider yourself an expert on this subject. Care to enlighten us?
The people who support Trump are simply disconnected from reality. Most are focused on their own lives and get spoon-fed right-wing nonsense, which they accept on face value without giving it much thought. The few people who try to disseminate conservative "information" in a medium that allows for rebuttal, find the road to be a tough one. You complain it's just because you're outnumbered, but you keep following the same pattern of getting stuffed by facts only to change the subject. Republicanism is miles wide and only an inch deep.
Edit: I just realized another Trump policy. Ignore the Constitution, when it won't let him do what he wants.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jun 25, 2024 8:12:40 GMT -5
Bill cheated on his wife, but did a pretty good at his job. Same can be said for JFK. Trump? No. He just cheated. Trump didn't cheat while he was president, did he?
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Post by bluepenquin on Jun 25, 2024 8:15:25 GMT -5
Most famous - Smoot-Hawley. 1930 made the depression a depression. This was coupled with increased tariffs protectionism all over Europe prior to WWII. US and Western countries didn't trade with soviet block countries (or very little) and propelled a cold war for 40 years. Large increases in tariffs in early 1861 prior to the civil war. Trade wars with England just prior to the Revolutionary War. Those examples say little or nothing about your claim, other than the one about the Revolutionary War. But that was more about exploiting a colony than about trade between sovereign nations. If anything, the Cold War is an example of enemies *not* going to war against each other. It isn't something that I have done a deep research on - but something that has been ingrained into me as being obvious - countries that trade together are less likely to go to war. Intuitively it makes sense - but then I also believe there is no doubt that international trade is a huge help to the economy. For me - I would prefer some isolationism in term of military and engagements and no isolationism in terms of trade. My belief - this will improve the economy for the most people and it will reduce the chances of military conflict. I also believe that 'Nationalism' isn't good for reducing wars or military conflict. Increasing tariffs, decreasing trade generally come with increased Nationalism. Seems to me that the world has increased Nationalism lately. The phrase MAGA is Nationalistic, and I don't like it. BTW, I just got back from my first trip to Europe and got to experience EURO's and EU. The free trading that goes on right now in Europe among the EU members is awesome - it would seem inconceivable that there could be a War breaking out between those members. Free trade has so many benefits - and both Trump and Biden want to reduce this.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 25, 2024 8:15:46 GMT -5
Bill cheated on his wife, but did a pretty good at his job. Same can be said for JFK. Trump? No. He just cheated. Does Trump have policies? Build a wall. Does that count? Tariffs. OK. I guess that's a policy. He certainly favors policies that help the rich. But I get the sense he relies on other people to devise them. What other policies does Trump have? You keep linking his name with the word "policies", so I guess you consider yourself an expert on this subject. Care to enlighten us? The people who support Trump are simply disconnected from reality. Most are focused on their own lives and get spoon-fed right-wing nonsense, which they accept on face value without giving it much thought. The few people who try to disseminate conservative "information" in a medium that allows for rebuttal, find the road to be a tough one. You complain it's just because you're outnumbered, but you keep following the same pattern of getting stuffed by facts only to change the subject. Republicanism is miles wide and only an inch deep. Edit: I just realized another Trump policy. Ignore the Constitution, when it won't let him do what he wants. I am trying to understand what world you live in? Inflation was 1.4% under Donald Trump. Unemployment was low. Groceries were cheap and gas was cheap. What was gas? $1.40 per gallon? I hate to break it to you clueless people, but that’s a damn good president that can keep costs low, interest, rates, low, and allow people to thrive and prosper. Again, you do not have the ability to see anything for what it is.
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Jun 25, 2024 9:24:49 GMT -5
Bill cheated on his wife, but did a pretty good at his job. Same can be said for JFK. Trump? No. He just cheated. Does Trump have policies? Build a wall. Does that count? Tariffs. OK. I guess that's a policy. He certainly favors policies that help the rich. But I get the sense he relies on other people to devise them. What other policies does Trump have? You keep linking his name with the word "policies", so I guess you consider yourself an expert on this subject. Care to enlighten us? The people who support Trump are simply disconnected from reality. Most are focused on their own lives and get spoon-fed right-wing nonsense, which they accept on face value without giving it much thought. The few people who try to disseminate conservative "information" in a medium that allows for rebuttal, find the road to be a tough one. You complain it's just because you're outnumbered, but you keep following the same pattern of getting stuffed by facts only to change the subject. Republicanism is miles wide and only an inch deep. Edit: I just realized another Trump policy. Ignore the Constitution, when it won't let him do what he wants. I am trying to understand what world you live in? Inflation was 1.4% under Donald Trump. Unemployment was low. Groceries were cheap and gas was cheap. What was gas? $1.40 per gallon? I hate to break it to you clueless people, but that’s a damn good president that can keep costs low, interest, rates, low, and allow people to thrive and prosper. Again, you do not have the ability to see anything for what it is. Why do you always lie? Biden inherited 14% unemployment from Trump and brought it down to ~4%. The all-food Consumer Price Index (CPI) rose by 25.0 percent starting in 2019 when Trump was president and lasted until Biden started bringing it down significantly in 2023. Gas was only cheap because demand was incredibly low thanks to everybody working from home or avoiding unncessary trips out. But you already know all this. This is just another chance for you to lie is all.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 25, 2024 9:30:27 GMT -5
Trump or Biden as the next president. Does it really matter? No. Yes,
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Post by volleyguy on Jun 25, 2024 9:35:52 GMT -5
Bill cheated on his wife, but did a pretty good at his job. Same can be said for JFK. Trump? No. He just cheated. Trump didn't cheat while he was president, did he? Ask Ivanka. lol
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Post by bobinmd on Jun 25, 2024 9:50:26 GMT -5
Trump didn't cheat while he was president, did he? Ask Ivanka. lol Classic AmeriCan response 😂.
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Post by FreeBall on Jun 25, 2024 10:15:33 GMT -5
Bill cheated on his wife, but did a pretty good at his job. Same can be said for JFK. Trump? No. He just cheated. Trump didn't cheat while he was president, did he? Given his past history, what are the odds Trump didn't have sex with someone other than Melania during his presidency? Pretty low in my opinion. For that matter, what are the odds Trump had sex with Melania while he was president. Higher, but probably still pretty low.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 25, 2024 10:23:03 GMT -5
Bill cheated on his wife, but did a pretty good at his job. Same can be said for JFK. Trump? No. He just cheated. Trump didn't cheat while he was president, did he? To clarify, I was not saying Trump cheated on his wife while he was President. Just that he cheated. Once again, in a moderate sized post, you comment on a tangential point in it of little worth. I would prefer you focus on important things.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 25, 2024 10:28:37 GMT -5
For me - I would prefer some isolationism in term of military and engagements and no isolationism in terms of trade. My belief - this will improve the economy for the most people and it will reduce the chances of military conflict. Eh. NATO has prevented war from breaking out in Europe. Had we isolated ourselves and not taken part in that, don't you think the Soviets would have capitalized by expanding their position? I do. They certainly did that versus their former ally Ukraine, which wasn't a part of NATO.
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