Prepvb final 17’s rankings

[rook]

I get that PrepVB rankings are based off of more than 1 tournament (Nationals). But it seems odd to rank Houston SkyLine over Arizona Storm after Storm went undefeated at Nationals, and then beat Skyline in the finals.

Some other odd things on rankings as well, it’s like they don’t pay attention to results…just a lot of confirmation bias. How, for example, is A5 17’s ranked anywhere in the top 25?? Or KIVA ranked 10th despite missing a bid. Or, for that matter, Tribe ranked 8th and missing a bid. They won AAU’s, but almost no one was there.

[thedudeabides21]

Jul 17, 2024 21:28:42 GMT -5 rook said:

I get that PrepVB rankings are based off of more than 1 tournament (Nationals). But it seems odd to rank Houston SkyLine over Arizona Storm after Storm went undefeated at Nationals, and then beat Skyline in the finals.

Some other odd things on rankings as well, it’s like they don’t pay attention to results…just a lot of confirmation bias. How, for example, is A5 17’s ranked anywhere in the top 25?? Or KIVA ranked 10th despite missing a bid. Or, for that matter, Tribe ranked 8th and missing a bid. They won AAU’s, but almost no one was there.

These rankings don’t matter. The player rankings were out of whack too (most rankings usually are after the top 10 or so.) I noticed players listed under the wrong club (which automatically makes the publication lose credibility imo,) players ranked who aren’t even starters or the strongest in that position on their own teams, but maybe they have name familiarity so they keep making lists.

[straightnochaser]

Jul 17, 2024 21:28:42 GMT -5 rook said:

I get that PrepVB rankings are based off of more than 1 tournament (Nationals). But it seems odd to rank Houston SkyLine over Arizona Storm after Storm went undefeated at Nationals, and then beat Skyline in the finals.

Some other odd things on rankings as well, it’s like they don’t pay attention to results…just a lot of confirmation bias. How, for example, is A5 17’s ranked anywhere in the top 25?? Or KIVA ranked 10th despite missing a bid. Or, for that matter, Tribe ranked 8th and missing a bid. They won AAU’s, but almost no one was there.

I agree. I don’t understand it. Both the club and the individual player rankings are often out of whack. I hear many say they don’t matter, they are subjective and that they are just the opinion of the ones that create them but many people seem to take them as the authority in volleyball which is frustrating. I’ve been reminded by the more seasoned volleyball fans that at least for the individual player rankings, we get to see how it all shakes out when the players get to college. The ones that were ranked high for political reasons tend to fizzle out and the underrated players that were overlooked tend to rise to top where they should’ve been! I try not to pay attention to them for that reason but I sure wish that someone would come up with a ranking system that was not biased and political.

[notvballdad]

You'll go crazy trying to apply logic to an illogical situation. Don't try to make sense of it. I've wanted to support PrepVB for so long and they can't seem to get it together on the team or player side of things. Overall in publications, its hard. I think their hearts are in the right place and there are several to really put in a lot of effort and continue to try to make their processes better. PrepVolleyball has struggled for a LONG time on this front, since Tawa moved on from the publication. Towards the end of my time as a VB parent, I finally just let my subscription last and didn't read or follow anything from them for the last 2-3 years and life was much less frustrating. They have repeatedly made some pretty significant errors and I just didn't think they had credibility anymore. They had players from our class that had not played club for 3-4 years ranked in their top 50. They were selecting kids to all tournament teams that had major injuries and didn't play at all during tournaments. They even ranked a team a few years back in their pre season top 5 that didn't exist. Best thing, move on have your own opinion and then watch it all play out in college. College exposes A LOT. Those things that fell through the cracks before come to light really quickly.

[VBallFan]

Agree there’s no logic or work applied to their team/player rankings. Makes no sense, they have some players ranked in top 150 not on 1’s teams saw that in multiple cases. It will drive you crazy trying to understand it.

[WildwoodVB]

There was a time in the Tawa days that PrepVB put out good rankings on recruits and teams. Those days are gone and now we're stuck with the half-ass efforts from PrepDig, PrepVB, and that crazy VBAdrenaline guy.

I also remember when this board would "re-rank" recruiting rankings even when they were good and you'd realize just how little the rankings mattered.

[straightnochaser]

Jul 18, 2024 7:52:53 GMT -5 notvballdad said:

You'll go crazy trying to apply logic to an illogical situation. Don't try to make sense of it. I've wanted to support PrepVB for so long and they can't seem to get it together on the team or player side of things. Overall in publications, its hard. I think their hearts are in the right place and there are several to really put in a lot of effort and continue to try to make their processes better. PrepVolleyball has struggled for a LONG time on this front, since Tawa moved on from the publication. Towards the end of my time as a VB parent, I finally just let my subscription last and didn't read or follow anything from them for the last 2-3 years and life was much less frustrating. They have repeatedly made some pretty significant errors and I just didn't think they had credibility anymore. They had players from our class that had not played club for 3-4 years ranked in their top 50. They were selecting kids to all tournament teams that had major injuries and didn't play at all during tournaments. They even ranked a team a few years back in their pre season top 5 that didn't exist. Best thing, move on have your own opinion and then watch it all play out in college. College exposes A LOT. Those things that fell through the cracks before come to light really quickly.

Best advice ever!

[straightnochaser]

Jul 18, 2024 8:23:27 GMT -5 VBallFan said:

Agree there’s no logic or work applied to their team/player rankings. Makes no sense, they have some players ranked in top 150 not on 1’s teams saw that in multiple cases. It will drive you crazy trying to understand it.

Thanks! I’m so glad I’m not the only one that feels this way! I’ll be taking these rankings with a grain of salt!

[VBallLife]

Jul 17, 2024 21:28:42 GMT -5 rook said:

I get that PrepVB rankings are based off of more than 1 tournament (Nationals). But it seems odd to rank Houston SkyLine over Arizona Storm after Storm went undefeated at Nationals, and then beat Skyline in the finals.

Some other odd things on rankings as well, it’s like they don’t pay attention to results…just a lot of confirmation bias. How, for example, is A5 17’s ranked anywhere in the top 25?? Or KIVA ranked 10th despite missing a bid. Or, for that matter, Tribe ranked 8th and missing a bid. They won AAU’s, but almost no one was there.

Certain clubs pay for “subscription” and preferential treatment. Storm proved they are the best team . Tribe didn’t qualify,nor did A5. This is one of the reasons their rankings aren’t taken serious either . Couple that with recent affiliation with IMG Academy,and it’s a joke.

[VBallLife]

Jul 18, 2024 13:06:53 GMT -5 straightnochaser said:

Jul 18, 2024 8:23:27 GMT -5 VBallFan said:

Agree there’s no logic or work applied to their team/player rankings. Makes no sense, they have some players ranked in top 150 not on 1’s teams saw that in multiple cases. It will drive you crazy trying to understand it.

Thanks! I’m so glad I’m not the only one that feels this way! I’ll be taking these rankings with a grain of salt!

One thing we know is rankings don’t make plays,players do. How they perform at the next level will dictate it where their true ranking should be.