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Post by rjaege on Jul 24, 2024 19:49:09 GMT -5
18 for volleyball seems excessive. It's almost like not having any limit. Suggest they need to bring back JV teams so non-starters get some playing time.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 24, 2024 19:52:51 GMT -5
I do. if Stanford thinks you’re good enough to be part of their 18, you should get a scholarship under this model. a majority of players from Stanford aren’t going to go pro, and that’s STANFORD. the NCAA has always been about putting STUDENT before athlete. until now apparently… I see the NCAA has you brainwashed. wdym by that I will always advocate for what’s best for the majority of athletes. I’ve worked with too many college athletes to not.
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Post by stevehorn on Jul 24, 2024 19:59:27 GMT -5
I see the NCAA has you brainwashed. wdym by that I will always advocate for what’s best for the majority of athletes. I’ve worked with too many college athletes to not. You said the NCAA always puts the Student before athlete. This is the brainwashing part if you really believe this. I would agree that they should, but history has shown that too often they do not.
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Post by mplsgopher on Jul 24, 2024 21:19:19 GMT -5
I have a stupid question.
Now that everything is shifting to simply a roster limit, with a full scholarship equivalency of 0.0 to 1.0 allowed to each and every roster spot ....
is there anything stopping a school from saying "hey [Player], we have decided to remove you from the roster. You will continue to be given your athletic scholarship for the duration that it was guaranteed, but your participation on the roster has been terminated" ??
Idea being, if the athletic dept is funding a scholarship to a student, but that student isn't on a roster ... it therefore must not count against the limit?
If I can think of this, hopefully they thought of it and have language to prevent it. Because otherwise we know SEC schools will pull dirty tricks like this.
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Post by InTheKnow on Jul 24, 2024 21:21:11 GMT -5
18 for volleyball seems excessive. It's almost like not having any limit. Suggest they need to bring back JV teams so non-starters get some playing time. 18 is the average roster size in women’s vb. So that’s not a crazy cap #
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Post by mplsgopher on Jul 24, 2024 21:22:24 GMT -5
There'll be a little adjustment at first, but you have over a year to plan for it. Also, not EVERY school is going to be able to afford 18 scholarships, not even Power 4 schools. Plus we don’t know how revenue sharing will work yet. Even if they can afford 18 scholarships, will Nebraska volleyball really want to give player #18 a $40,000 scholarship when they could take that $40k and just give it to their starting setter? Why does it have to be a finite either/or?
Every roster gets a full scholarship, to pay for school. You know, student-athlete. And then, NIL is a separate bucket (of donations) to fund high performance.
That's how I think about it.
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Post by horns1 on Jul 24, 2024 21:40:55 GMT -5
I'm pretty stunned that volleyball will surpass women's hoops which has long had a 15 scholarship maximum per season. In hoops, the players are running up and down the court all game long so substitutions off the bench are imperative. And, hoopsters are assessed fouls which limits their playing minutes as reaching 5 fouls removes them from the game.
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Post by vbnerd on Jul 24, 2024 21:43:12 GMT -5
I have a stupid question. Now that everything is shifting to simply a roster limit, with a full scholarship equivalency of 0.0 to 1.0 allowed to each and every roster spot .... is there anything stopping a school from saying "hey [Player], we have decided to remove you from the roster. You will continue to be given your athletic scholarship for the duration that it was guaranteed, but your participation on the roster has been terminated" ?? Idea being, if the athletic dept is funding a scholarship to a student, but that student isn't on a roster ... it therefore must not count against the limit? If I can think of this, hopefully they thought of it and have language to prevent it. Because otherwise we know SEC schools will pull dirty tricks like this. There was a series of articles about Alabama football doing this going back to 2010. They put kids on medical scholarships to get them off the football roster, only some players didn’t know what injury they had that kept them from playing football. Other disputed they were injured.
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Post by rjaege on Jul 24, 2024 22:15:43 GMT -5
18 for volleyball seems excessive. It's almost like not having any limit. Suggest they need to bring back JV teams so non-starters get some playing time. 18 is the average roster size in women’s vb. So that’s not a crazy cap # Maybe, but still seems excessive. Nearly half the team will see minimal playing time.
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Post by n00b on Jul 24, 2024 22:21:44 GMT -5
I have a stupid question. Now that everything is shifting to simply a roster limit, with a full scholarship equivalency of 0.0 to 1.0 allowed to each and every roster spot .... is there anything stopping a school from saying "hey [Player], we have decided to remove you from the roster. You will continue to be given your athletic scholarship for the duration that it was guaranteed, but your participation on the roster has been terminated" ?? Idea being, if the athletic dept is funding a scholarship to a student, but that student isn't on a roster ... it therefore must not count against the limit? If I can think of this, hopefully they thought of it and have language to prevent it. Because otherwise we know SEC schools will pull dirty tricks like this. Well, what you described is better than kicking a kid off the team AND pulling their scholarship. Which is still a thing that happens.
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Post by InTheKnow on Jul 24, 2024 22:23:38 GMT -5
18 is the average roster size in women’s vb. So that’s not a crazy cap # Maybe, but still seems excessive. Nearly half the team will see minimal playing time. It’s really the same roster numbers as before as far as playing time. No difference as far as that’s concerned. The difference will be the P4’s won’t hold on to walkons and basically load up $ players 1-18.
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Post by n00b on Jul 24, 2024 22:24:05 GMT -5
Plus we don’t know how revenue sharing will work yet. Even if they can afford 18 scholarships, will Nebraska volleyball really want to give player #18 a $40,000 scholarship when they could take that $40k and just give it to their starting setter? Why does it have to be a finite either/or? Every roster gets a full scholarship, to pay for school. You know, student-athlete. And then, NIL is a separate bucket (of donations) to fund high performance. That's how I think about it.
Because budgets ARE finite.
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Post by n00b on Jul 24, 2024 22:26:04 GMT -5
I'm pretty stunned that volleyball will surpass women's hoops which has long had a 15 scholarship maximum per season. In hoops, the players are running up and down the court all game long so substitutions off the bench are imperative. And, hoopsters are assessed fouls which limits their playing minutes as reaching 5 fouls removes them from the game. The average women’s basketball roster is only at 14.1 despite having 15 scholarships. Coaches don’t want the extra players.
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Post by horns1 on Jul 24, 2024 22:40:45 GMT -5
I'm pretty stunned that volleyball will surpass women's hoops which has long had a 15 scholarship maximum per season. In hoops, the players are running up and down the court all game long so substitutions off the bench are imperative. And, hoopsters are assessed fouls which limits their playing minutes as reaching 5 fouls removes them from the game. The average women’s basketball roster is only at 14.1 despite having 15 scholarships. Coaches don’t want the extra players. Do you expect the average to be a perfect 15.0? 14.1 means more than 14 scholarships used on average which means many schools are using 15 scholarships.
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Post by fightingminime on Jul 25, 2024 0:36:32 GMT -5
The average women’s basketball roster is only at 14.1 despite having 15 scholarships. Coaches don’t want the extra players. Do you expect the average to be a perfect 15.0? 14.1 means more than 14 scholarships used on average which means many schools are using 15 scholarships. But as stated above … the average roster size for volleyball Is 18 … and we have only been getting 12.
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