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Post by Gorf on Oct 28, 2006 10:29:43 GMT -5
Amazing for being not true it sure happens relatively frequently.
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 28, 2006 10:36:36 GMT -5
I think OSU is certainly capable of beating the Badgers, so I hope that Wisconsin is focused for the match. They will need to defense the setter dumps better than they did last night, or Main will hurt them a lot. I don't think the matchup of Szerszen and Dolgner will be the deciding factor unless Wisconsin isn't able to pass well. Those players are obviously important to their teams, but they will only get a disproportionate amount of sets if their teams aren't in system. If the Badgers are going well, as they were last night, they run a pretty balanced offense unless someone is really on fire. For Ohio State, I am also worried about Meyer (a big time threat whom the Gophers did well against last night) and McCarthy, against whom the Badgers had no answer last time around. I would imagine she will have extra motivation with family and friends in attendance. I think the Badgers will win, though. They should have more of an advantage in the middle than they showed in Columbus. That was a match the Badgers I feel really should have won, given that they were up 2-0. OSU is talented, but all they had to do was be two points better in one game, and they weren't. Credit the Buckeyes for fighting back and taking the match.
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Post by rudepa on Oct 28, 2006 11:41:18 GMT -5
Did PSU leave everything on the plane or what?? The badgers played out of their minds!!! Didnt see this one coming....look out Gophers when PSU wakes up. Lets hope they are still in shock:-) Badgers, keep up the intensity for OSU. They wont be on their heels like PSU was.
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Post by bomber on Oct 28, 2006 13:49:42 GMT -5
Amazing for being not true it sure happens relatively frequently.  ?!!!!!!!! Gorf, er, come again??? |
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Post by letch0125 on Oct 28, 2006 14:03:08 GMT -5
WOW. Aside from the service errors, the Badgers played out of their minds. After just watching my recording of the UW/Minn match, and had my doubts that the Penn State match would end well for the Badgers. Congrats to them and go Minnesota tonight! Wouldn't an 0-2 road trip be sweet for those of us who have had our fill of the "Bullies of the Big Ten!"
As for OSU, I think we've seen plenty of evidence that they're in for a tough second half, as much as I hate to say it. It almost seems like the players aren't buying into the game plan coz on paper they should be better than their record. Hopefully they'll prove me wrong....
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Post by Gorf on Oct 28, 2006 14:43:36 GMT -5
I think OSU is certainly capable of beating the Badgers, so I hope that Wisconsin is focused for the match. They will need to defense the setter dumps better than they did last night, or Main will hurt them a lot. I don't think the matchup of Szerszen and Dolgner will be the deciding factor unless Wisconsin isn't able to pass well. Those players are obviously important to their teams, but they will only get a disproportionate amount of sets if their teams aren't in system. If the Badgers are going well, as they were last night, they run a pretty balanced offense unless someone is really on fire. For Ohio State, I am also worried about Meyer (a big time threat whom the Gophers did well against last night) and McCarthy, against whom the Badgers had no answer last time around. I would imagine she will have extra motivation with family and friends in attendance. I think the Badgers will win, though. They should have more of an advantage in the middle than they showed in Columbus. That was a match the Badgers I feel really should have won, given that they were up 2-0. OSU is talented, but all they had to do was be two points better in one game, and they weren't. Credit the Buckeyes for fighting back and taking the match. If the Badgers can use their serving to keep OSU out of system as effectively as they did again PSU then they also severely limit the number of times Main has a chance to lob / dump the ball. Her net play in that respect wasn't an impact at all against the Gophers. She was pull off the net or otherwise having to move a fair distance along the net or down to her knees to get to her teammates passes on serve receive that she had relatively few opportunites to lob / dump the ball. During the occasional long rallies she had opportunities for doing that and took advantage of them at times but nowhere to the extent that I've seen her do in other matches. |
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Post by Gorf on Oct 28, 2006 14:44:19 GMT -5
Amazing for being not true it sure happens relatively frequently. ?!!!!!!!! Gorf, er, come again??? I read a "not" in your comment so I sniped back. Sowwy.  |
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Post by Gorf on Oct 28, 2006 14:51:49 GMT -5
WOW. Aside from the service errors, the Badgers played out of their minds. Having 11 service errors along with 7 aces and probably numerous other serves that took PSU out of system is something i think most coaches would be ecstatic over. Some teams (like the Gophers) take the aces as "the icing on the cake" (so to speak) since their serving premise is to place tough serves that take their opponents out of system and limit them to a single setting option in order to make blocking and defending the opponent's attacks easier. By looking at the Gophers serving stats last night many people would consider it terrible that they missed 15 serves. However, they also had ~8 aces and many instances where their serving took OSU out of system and made their offense much more predictable. |
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Post by JHAM on Oct 28, 2006 15:40:07 GMT -5
I agree that serving aggressively to take a team out of system is what every player/coach/team should strive for. However, when some of the serves bomb directly into the net or float out so far that they go into the crowd that is not serving tough. That is the frustrating part of watching a team having 3 consecutive service errors and they aren't even close to being playable. Serving is the only part of the game that an individual player has total control over and most top teams still have the ability to serve tough and have fewer SEs.
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 28, 2006 16:16:33 GMT -5
It was frustrating that the Badgers had so many errors last night because they weren't jump serving or going with many high risk serves (short, tough angles, etc.). Berkley missed some serves long, and she has been great at the service line recently, igniting some huge Badger runs in their Big Ten home matches. I agree that you can live with some errors when you are taking the other team out of their offense, but the Badgers missed some serves that shouldn't have been very high risk. To their credit, they were able to overcome that and get the sweep anyway. I will have to tape and watch tomorrow's broadcast, but I really don't think the Badgers "played out of their minds" last night. They had looked really good in their previous conference home matches as well. I think they did step it up last night, but it wasn't miles above their previous performances. This team can be really good, as they have shown in their conference wins other than the one at Iowa. They can also play really poorly, as they did at Minnesota. I don't understand why they have had so much trouble on the road recently, as they had beaten San Diego and swept Illinois and Northwestern on the road before the PSU/OSU trip and haven't done too well on the road since.
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Post by wiscvball on Oct 28, 2006 16:31:13 GMT -5
I will have to tape and watch tomorrow's broadcast, but I really don't think the Badgers "played out of their minds" last night. I watched the archived webcast this morning on uwbadgers.com and I think the Badgers definitely raised the level of their game to PSU's level rather than PSU bringing their game down. Outside of Hodge, who obviously had a night to forget, PSU played pretty well. They still had many many WOW plays when their outsides would crank it or their middles would plant a slide inside the 10 foot line. The Badgers just never gave up momentum in the match. They played really solid side-out volleyball. PSU's longest run in the match was only 3-4 points, while the Badgers had a 9 pt run in game one and a 4 pt run to end game two. For a team to still hit over .200 when their leading hitter on the season hits .000 is impressive - it means that other people were still playing really well. I was a bit disappointed by Glass and her setting decisions... I thought she should have gone to her middles a lot more - they were pretty automatic in most instances (save Walbridge when she was roofed by Bladow on game pt in gm2). Of course, as a Badger fan, I'm glad she didn't choose last night to implement that strategy  I can't wait to see the match on ESPN2 tomorrow! |
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Post by wiscvball on Oct 28, 2006 17:03:06 GMT -5
I predict an Ohio State victory tomorrow.  Which Sybil will show up to play in Madison? As a matter of fact, I'm not just talking about my Buckeyes. Wisconsin couldn't beat OSU, yet they swept PSU. We should have the conference changed to the Bipolar 11. Again: it's going to be Szerszen vs Dolgner. Whomever has the better stats (mainly, less errors) wins. Anybody in on that? I'm not trying to be mean, but I really don't think OSU is that good. I'll re-phrase, they are good, but they aren't as good as PSU, Minnesota, or Wisconsin - and they are about on par with Purdue. The Badgers SHOULD have swept them in Columbus, but Carlini going out of the match after game two didn't help matters. That match still irks me... especially now after beating PSU. With three losses the Badgers have virtually no chance of winning the big ten - while the winner of tonights match between PSU and Minnesota will likely clinch at least a share of the title. I'm predicting a Badger win in 3 (maybe 4) games tomorrow. If they don't win in a decisive fashion at home, it will be a disappointment. Oh, and Dolgner will win the Szerszen vs. Dolgner bout. Hodge better watch out... if she has too many more off nights, Dolgner may steal that Big Ten FOY award from her grip |
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Post by bigtenfred on Oct 28, 2006 17:39:01 GMT -5
Agreed about PSU using the middles more. walbridge had 8 kills on 500% hitting Harmotto 7 hitting 300%.
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Post by bomber on Oct 28, 2006 17:54:39 GMT -5
Agreed about PSU using the middles more. walbridge had 8 kills on 500% hitting Harmotto 7 hitting 300%. As the saying goes, "ya gotta pass to run your offense". Last night, PSU did not pass very well. End of story.....and middle offense. |
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Post by wiscvball on Oct 29, 2006 12:14:54 GMT -5
This match is on ESPN2 in 45 minutes at noon central time.
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?!!!!!!!! Gorf, er, come again???
