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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Dec 15, 2006 17:20:15 GMT -5
And I still want someone to keep track of the rotations! A simple graphic. Is that asking too much? Because the camera never shows the entire court (unless they use the endline shot), the TV viewer can't easily track this himself/herself. I was thinking about this when I made my comment about rotation analysis. Watching it on TV, you couldn't track rotations very easily even if you were trying (I tend to track them by server). Sometimes you can tell who's serving, other times not. They make it very hard. When I do it live, I can do it very casually.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2006 17:29:38 GMT -5
I need to remember to write down the service order first time through and then just have that handy. I never do and I completely lose track of rotations when watching it on TV.
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Post by sexy on Dec 15, 2006 23:35:53 GMT -5
i wonder if ms cox comes to this eye popping thread and realize she is getting spanked left and right?? i like ms cox even though she can be a bit stiff at times when she makes her calls -- at least she isnt cocky and rubs it in everyones faces -- she deserves a standing ovation from all these hot peckerheads -- you know what im sayin?? or is this too much to swallow??
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Post by sexy on Dec 15, 2006 23:37:12 GMT -5
Can we vote sexy off the Island? A little to creepy for me. behave yourself!!
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Post by bigfan on Dec 15, 2006 23:42:17 GMT -5
Can we vote sexy off the Island? A little to creepy for me. behave yourself!! Don't you be goin and pushin sexy out the door!
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Post by itsallaboutme on Dec 16, 2006 8:18:42 GMT -5
I DVR'd the match and watched the match last night. Wow, Heather's last name correctly starts with a "C" but it should be something opposite of "Cox".
She had her head buried so deep in UCLA's backside she missed half the game. If you had listened to her via the radio you would have thought UCLA was the only team on the court.
"Spicer this, Spicer that...yadd yadda" meanwhile, back at the game Holloway makes a couple of great attacks and Heather makes no mention of that. She is terrible.
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Post by baywatcher on Dec 16, 2006 10:11:05 GMT -5
Don't usually critique sports announcers one way or the other, but this time I really thought Cox and companion were missing the pace of Stanford v. Washington. They were so busy pushing pre-set pieces about players and teams they ignored the way Stanford was steadily pulling ahead in games 1 and 3, and the way Washington hung in there in game 2 for awhile. Heard mostly Karch and McPeak out in the Pac 10, and some may call them simplistic, but much more technical than the two at the Final Four. That being said, volleyball seems very hard to call, if for no other reason than the very short interval between points. No huddles, few timeouts, no free throws, no face-offs, little dead time to go into particulars why one team is dominating, or indeed what the particulars are of the rotation gaining a few points.
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Post by fingrbustr on Dec 16, 2006 10:53:52 GMT -5
HC isn't bad, but then again, she isn't as entertaining as Marlowe or technically knowledgeable as Karch (nobody really is, btw). She IS very sweet in person to the public (I can personally attest to that) and a great looker to boot. She's fine for vball broadcast, IMO.
This stuff about rotations, etc...is it really that hard to keep track of as a viewer? I know when I watch teams where I don't know the personnel (Mizzou, Mich etc. comes to mind) it can be confusing, but c'mon, w/ the *big* teams you should recognize who plays what position and where. If Kristin Richards is moving to LF, then Barboza is due to serve, etc.
This thread hits on another personal peeve of mine. It always confounds me that "coaches" do lineup checks mid-game to see who their next server is. How can you not know what rotation your own team is in and what the serving order is??! Volleyball rotations are so simple, IMO. No excuse for not knowing your team.
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Post by jgrout on Dec 16, 2006 11:44:01 GMT -5
OTOH, last night they had a great opportunity to point out an usual play, where Neb I think got called for a back row attack after the libero set a ball from within the 3 m line that got attacked. Meanwhile, all they did was say it was a back row attack, and then Cox continued rambling on. That's a rare enough play that it is a subtle call. Even a lot of casual fans would not have realized it when it happened. It would have been an interesting place to talk about that part of the rule. When Paula Gentil came out of Game 3 of the 2004 Final, HC could have said something like "Coach Hebert has a tough decision... does he designate a replacement libero now and make Gentil ineligible until a potential Game 4, or does he wait to give the trainer time to work on her?" She didn't. When Mike did designate a replacement libero a few plays later, HC should have mentioned the rule. She didn't. After that, I can't draw a clear line between what she chooses not to mention and what she doesn't know enough about to mention. Earlier this season, when I saw VT's favorite libero set overhand in front of the 3m line and a Stanford hitter attack, I knew it was illegal and knew the up official would whistle the play dead... but I didn't know he would give a "back row attack" signal... I guess it was the "illegal attack hit" signal all along.
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Dec 16, 2006 12:23:29 GMT -5
It always confounds me that "coaches" do lineup checks mid-game to see who their next server is. How can you not know what rotation your own team is in and what the serving order is??! Volleyball rotations are so simple, IMO. No excuse for not knowing your team. You are assuming they are doing the line up check because they do not know if they are in the proper rotation. I would suggest they are doing the line up check for reasons other than figuring out the serving order....
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Post by flyingl123 on Dec 16, 2006 16:23:58 GMT -5
One thing you can expect for sure when HC is commenting. There will be mention of her Right Side days at Pacific.
One thing you can expect for sure when Marlow is commenting. He will use the phrase "you never know when a rally can start with a little play like that."
An then theres the guy that did the Big Ten this year. In every match, at least once, he stated: "she got used like a kitchen appliance".
I enjoyed Holly and karch the best this year...
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 16, 2006 16:33:34 GMT -5
Everyone has their thing.
Scott Robbs of KKEA, who does the Wahine matches on radio, always ALWAYS shouts "crush the coconut". Then, there's the Leahy/McLaughlin tandem who always shouts "campfire defense".
Even on this forum, everyone has a favorite phrase or two they like to use. Or, if not a favorite phrase, they have some other "marker" (modus operandi...MO). For example, Gorf likes to misspell words. Don't begrudge him his "thing."
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Post by nodisrespect on Dec 16, 2006 16:38:52 GMT -5
Everyone has their thing. Scott Robbs of KKEA, who does the Wahine matches on radio, always ALWAYS shouts "crush the coconut". Then, there's the Leahy/McLaughlin tandem who always shouts "campfire defense". Even on this forum, everyone has a favorite phrase or two they like to use. Or, if not a favorite phrase, they have some other "marker" (modus operandi...MO). For example, Gorf likes to misspell words. Don't begrudge him his "thing." Oh, gawd. Leahy. When is his son going to take over his spot?
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Post by FloridaPerson on Dec 16, 2006 17:14:08 GMT -5
it was great that year when those two doofs called the Gators suspect, and hawai'i'i'i propmtly went out and lost to them in the national semifinals.
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 16, 2006 17:42:37 GMT -5
it was great that year when those two doofs called the Gators suspect, and hawai'i'i'i propmtly went out and lost to them in the national semifinals. I normally can't tolerate a Hawaii loss but that year was an exception just for the sheer joy of witnessing a certain someone have a complete nervous breakdown online. And to think I saw it all unfold for free!
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