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Post by Mix Breed-TEXAS,HI,LBSU on Dec 20, 2006 17:14:44 GMT -5
if you want to check those "joined" dates, you can see who is new. just becaue i haven't posted a lot doesn't mean i haven't been around. so take that with a nice warm glass of ... That's what makes the internet so amusing, you can be whoever you want to be and say whatever you wanna say but can you really back it up, face to face...........I don't think so. YOu're probably some eastcoast trash who's a nerd......................... Like Oh my gosh,............LOL.......!
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Post by pineapple on Dec 20, 2006 17:25:49 GMT -5
For someone who's pretty new to vtalk, you sure have a smart mouth....................A**H*LE.....any spelling errors there? Ah so is there a rule or something, new posters can't smart mouth??? lol boards leetists, gotta love em. Gotta be smart to smartmouth.
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Post by cvbc14 on Dec 20, 2006 18:21:17 GMT -5
not and east coast nerd. just living at the center of the volleyball universe and loving it.
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Post by Mix Breed-TEXAS,HI,LBSU on Dec 20, 2006 18:56:45 GMT -5
not and east coast nerd. just living at the center of the volleyball universe and loving it. Well that's one good asset to your name..................LOL.....
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Post by StuffU on Dec 20, 2006 21:21:03 GMT -5
It really hurts when you can't advance out of a regional when it is hosted at home. It has happened to Nebraska before. I remember Hawaii fans bitching every year saying that the Whine would make the final 4 every year if they hosted regionals. I do believe that those same Whine fans claimed that Nebraska would never advance to a FF if the regional wasn't in Lincoln. Would they have beaten Stanford if the FF was in California (or at least a neutral site) who knows. But if you think people were booing Stanford, you are dead wrong. Great plays and rallys were applauded for both teams. The Quest center was extremely quiet (during rallys) until the last 10 points of game 4. There were a number of plays where I could hear both teams calling out their plays. Anyway, it is going to snow in Nebraska this week (finally) and in a couple months the Huskers will start their preparation for a run at the title again. I respect coach Shoji and what he has done with his program. I find it amuzing how many Hawaii fans will build up their team year after year, and then blame everyone else when they drop out in the third round of the tournament. I'm off to make some snowballs Were you paying attention AT ALL this year? Nothing in your post seems to relate to 2006 Wahine. But, then again, it's truly just a troll post .... and i bit. lol
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Post by pineapple on Dec 20, 2006 22:22:54 GMT -5
not and east coast nerd. just living at the center of the volleyball universe and loving it. You sound like you're trying sustain the happy feeling that came with the fabulous accomplishment of the Huskers. Don't fool yourself. The feeling will be short lived. The volleyball season is over and done with; sooner or later you will have to come down from the clouds, back to the mundane. It's going to hit home that happiness is more than winning the volleyball title and that gloomy times are still ahead: snow, ice, sleets, blizzards, driving at night, going to work or classes. Perhaps you should come to Hawaii for a vacation and see how beautiful life really is. Win a title or lose, there are many happy things we in Hawaii do which you too could do. It's really awesome in our universe.
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Post by bunnywailer on Dec 20, 2006 22:32:00 GMT -5
not and east coast nerd. just living at the center of the volleyball universe and loving it. Perhaps you should come to Hawaii for a vacation and see how beautiful life really is. Win a title or lose, there are many happy things we in Hawaii do which you too could do. It's really awesome in our universe. That's mostly true, except for the crazy-ass traffic, cockroches that fly, and all the meth heads stealing your checkbook and trying to cash forged checks at Star Market. ;D
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Post by nodisrespect on Dec 20, 2006 22:32:05 GMT -5
Until I see any Heather Bowns or Kim Willoughbys or Lily Kahumokus in next year's squad, I will say that Hawaii will only be in the top 15. The only good player that you have is Jamie Houston, but she is no Willoughby. Just an average Therese Crawford.
BTW, I think Kamana'o is overrated. You can disagree all you want, but she was never THAT good. Good setter but not GREAT. And I've seen how many Hawaii fans compare her to Robyn Ah Mow-Santos. She ain't got nothing on Ah Mow-Santos. Didn't Kamana'o choke at the last play of the '03 semifinal against Florida?
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Post by hwnstunner on Dec 20, 2006 22:39:52 GMT -5
Until I see any Heather Bowns or Kim Willoughbys or Lily Kahumokus in next year's squad, I will say that Hawaii will only be in the top 15. The only good player that you have is Jamie Houston, but she is no Willoughby. Just an average Therese Crawford. BTW, I think Kamana'o is overrated. You can disagree all you want, but she was never THAT good. Good setter but not GREAT. And I've seen how many Hawaii fans compare her to Robyn Ah Mow-Santos. She ain't got nothing on Ah Mow-Santos. Didn't Kamana'o choke at the last play of the '03 semifinal against Florida? Choke. As a freshman? When the pass was tight at the net? Yea, she choked. But not as bad as the passer who passed it tight, or Willoughby who had almost a dozen errors in the match.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Dec 20, 2006 22:50:30 GMT -5
It really hurts when you can't advance out of a regional when it is hosted at home. It has happened to Nebraska before. I remember Hawaii fans bitching every year saying that the Whine would make the final 4 every year if they hosted regionals. Yes, it has had to Nebraska at home, like in 2002 when the Huskers were bounced from the tourney by Hawai'i. ;D I wouldn't put too much validity into your memory. If your are like most Husker fans, your memory probably isn't as good as it was 20 years ago. For the record, I don't recall any Hawai'i fan claiming Hawai'i would make the final four every year if they hosted regionals. I challenge you to back up your statement with facts. Like I said earlier, you're two bit memory isn't good enough. I do believe that those same Whine fans claimed that Nebraska would never advance to a FF if the regional wasn't in Lincoln. Again, I challenge you to search VT for those comments. People might have said they never advanced to the final four outside of Nebraska but I don't recall any Hawai'i fan saying they couldn't advance away from home. Btw, it's Wahine, you old goat! I respect coach Shoji and what he has done with his program. I find it amuzing how many Hawaii fans will build up their team year after year, and then blame everyone else when they drop out in the third round of the tournament. I find your stupid comments amusing.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Dec 20, 2006 22:55:30 GMT -5
BTW, I think Kamana'o is overrated. You can disagree all you want, but she was never THAT good. Good setter but not GREAT. And I've seen how many Hawaii fans compare her to Robyn Ah Mow-Santos. She ain't got nothing on Ah Mow-Santos. Didn't Kamana'o choke at the last play of the '03 semifinal against Florida? You don't know what you're talking about there, pony.
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Post by nodisrespect on Dec 20, 2006 23:21:31 GMT -5
Until I see any Heather Bowns or Kim Willoughbys or Lily Kahumokus in next year's squad, I will say that Hawaii will only be in the top 15. The only good player that you have is Jamie Houston, but she is no Willoughby. Just an average Therese Crawford. BTW, I think Kamana'o is overrated. You can disagree all you want, but she was never THAT good. Good setter but not GREAT. And I've seen how many Hawaii fans compare her to Robyn Ah Mow-Santos. She ain't got nothing on Ah Mow-Santos. Didn't Kamana'o choke at the last play of the '03 semifinal against Florida? Choke. As a freshman? When the pass was tight at the net? Yea, she choked. But not as bad as the passer who passed it tight, or Willoughby who had almost a dozen errors in the match. I didn't see Bryn Kehoe or Rachel Holloway choke. That's right. They have titles to back it up. And I believe Robyn Ah Mow-Santos would have made a bad pass into an incredible set. Why do you think she's an Olympian? My mom's a huge Hawaii fan, and she will support the Wahine forever. It pains me that she will not see them win one again in the near future. The Shoji glory days are gone especially when they've been so close many times. Your best chances were the '02 and '03 years. But then again, other teams were just better. Too bad Kim Willoughy had to carry the team making her one of the biggest player-of-the-year chokers to play in the FF. She played poorly in all of her 3 semi-games. And why does she never tip the ball? I know most Hawaii fans are just trying to look on the bright side, but hearing people say that the Wahine "will be better" next year every year is just laughable. And I know most of you were hoping that Klineman would commit to the islands. But c'mon now. She does not have enough supporting cast to win a title or even make the FF. And you have to be high to have think that Hawaii had a chance to land her. How do you compete with Stanford. In the end, I really hope the Wahine will have a great season next year and that other players step up or else it's going to be just another '01 Willoughyesque Jamie Houston season.
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Post by mahina on Dec 20, 2006 23:38:23 GMT -5
Choke. As a freshman? When the pass was tight at the net? Yea, she choked. But not as bad as the passer who passed it tight, or Willoughby who had almost a dozen errors in the match. I didn't see Bryn Kehoe or Rachel Holloway choke. That's right. They have titles to back it up. And I believe Robyn Ah Mow-Santos would have made a bad pass into an incredible set. Why do you think she's an Olympian? My mom's a huge Hawaii fan, and she will support the Wahine forever. It pains me that she will not see them win one again in the near future. The Shoji glory days are gone especially when they've been so close many times. Your best chances were the '02 and '03 years. But then again, other teams were just better. Too bad Kim Willoughy had to carry the team making her one of the biggest player-of-the-year chokers to play in the FF. She played poorly in all of her 3 semi-games. And why does she never tip the ball? I know most Hawaii fans are just trying to look on the bright side, but hearing people say that the Wahine "will be better" next year every year is just laughable. And I know most of you were hoping that Klineman would commit to the islands. But c'mon now. She does not have enough supporting cast to win a title or even make the FF. And you have to be high to have think that Hawaii had a chance to land her. How do you compete with Stanford. In the end, I really hope the Wahine will have a great season next year and that other players step up or else it's going to be just another '01 Willoughyesque Jamie Houston season. Fine. This poster has stated their purely innocent and heartfelt opinion with absolutely 'no disrespect' intended. (yeah, right... ) Can people try not to even respond? It's just stupid. It's become clear that this forum is much less about discussing volleyball and more and more about giving a bunch of idiots a chance to put each other down (as well as their teams, its players, their states and their entire fanbase). I suppose asking people to grow up would be useless. It's actually pretty interesting from a sociological point of view. The season is over yet people have nothing better to do than try to rag on teams and players that they supposedly don't really care about. Why? It's fun! (Right, Wolfie?) It's the x-mas season and people have nothing better to do than try to incite arguments with each other. It really has absolutely nothing to do with women's volleyball as a sport and is just about giving a bunch of doofs a forum to express themselves anonymously. And so ends my rant. Happy Holidays Doofs!
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Post by triasfan on Dec 21, 2006 0:09:42 GMT -5
I think Hawaii will be fine next season. Top 15 definitely, top ten perhaps. Kamana'o is a huge loss and so is Mason. A lot of Hawaii's success next season will be based on the injured players returning healthy, especially Hittle. If we get everyone back healthy, the squad has the potential to make a serious run next year.
As for nodisrespect's weigh in on the issue, I think a lot of what he said about next year's Wahine is true based on the facts we have now. Talent-wise, Hawaii is not up there with Penn State, Nebraska, Stanford, Texas, Florida, and USC. The injured players are still injured and no one is certain whether they'll be back at 100%, which we'll need them to be at if we want to compete with the best.
He's also right in that there are no Kim Willoughby, Lily Kahumoku, Heather Bown type talents on next years team. Jamie Houston is not any of those three at least for the time being (although she is much better than Therese Crawford ever was). We saw glimpses of what she could do against USC, but we have yet to see that kind of effort consistently. With another year of practice Houston COULD become like those three, but as of right now she's not and until we see her next year all we can do as fans is speculate.
I disagree with him about the 2003 final four match. We didn't choke, Florida just played better. They followed their game plan. They knew the key to winning was frustrating Willoughby and that's exactly what they did. They served at her all the time and put two blockers in front of her all the time. Once they took her out of the match they were able to go after Lily and take her out as well. Both had double-digit errors by the end of the four games. The truth is, that 2003 team was not as good as Florida and USC that year. We had too many weaknesses (middles, right-side) and Florida exploited them.
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Post by aaronic on Dec 21, 2006 0:12:23 GMT -5
Choke. As a freshman? When the pass was tight at the net? Yea, she choked. But not as bad as the passer who passed it tight, or Willoughby who had almost a dozen errors in the match. I didn't see Bryn Kehoe or Rachel Holloway choke. That's right. They have titles to back it up. And I believe Robyn Ah Mow-Santos would have made a bad pass into an incredible set. Why do you think she's an Olympian? My mom's a huge Hawaii fan, and she will support the Wahine forever. It pains me that she will not see them win one again in the near future. The Shoji glory days are gone especially when they've been so close many times. Your best chances were the '02 and '03 years. But then again, other teams were just better. Too bad Kim Willoughy had to carry the team making her one of the biggest player-of-the-year chokers to play in the FF. She played poorly in all of her 3 semi-games. And why does she never tip the ball? I know most Hawaii fans are just trying to look on the bright side, but hearing people say that the Wahine "will be better" next year every year is just laughable. And I know most of you were hoping that Klineman would commit to the islands. But c'mon now. She does not have enough supporting cast to win a title or even make the FF. And you have to be high to have think that Hawaii had a chance to land her. How do you compete with Stanford. In the end, I really hope the Wahine will have a great season next year and that other players step up or else it's going to be just another '01 Willoughyesque Jamie Houston season. In regards to KK... just because you did not win an NCAA title does NOT mean that you aren't a great/good setter. If KK was setting the Huskers this year, or setting the Cardinal back in '04(Soph) I think she still would have been able to win it all. You can't just judge someone by NCAA titles..... that's just pretty damn one-dimensional thinking and ignorant. No offense to any of the Hawaii diehards, but if Holloway or Kehoe had to set Hawaii this year, they still wouldn't have been able to win the majority(if not, all) matches lost. And for the record, KK did choke in some of the postseason matches(her Frosh year). So what?...She was just a Freshman then.... I don't think you can expect a virtually flawless year as a Freshman. I think Kamanao is a great setter, she is just as good as Kehoe, and POTENTIALLY another Olympian.... Secondly, I think at the time('03), Kim Willoughby was the BEST College outside hitter in the Country.... better than Ross, better than Cruz... remember there's a reason why she won the NPOY that year. I don't think she really choked as much as it was Florida and Stanford were all keying in on Willoughby. I'm sure those tips would have been picked up.... and I don't know why you weren't able to pick up on that. Thirdly, for the record, I think if AK did commit to Hawaii, they'd be FF candidates hands down. Houston and AK on the left would be a solid tandem to help make that happen. And it's also obvious why you think Hawaii won't be better than this year... it's because you don't know much about this team including it's coaching staff. I don't think it was magic how they were able to turn their season completely around within the last 3-4 weeks left... the coaching staff really helped out big time. Houston coming back is another big plus.... not to mention the play of several returnees in the past couple weeks have got to give the Wahine fans a chance for a better season. Now you probably didn't know that, and hence why you think so lowly of their season outlook for '07. Moreover this is the reason why Hawaii fans are making such statements.
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