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Post by beachman on Feb 28, 2007 19:42:44 GMT -5
I don't think Nebraska's even the favorite unless Houghtelling returns 100%, and that's always a big if after shoulder surgery. Will she be playing in the spring tournaments? I have no inside information on Houghtelling's physical status, but I do know, from personal experience as well as from watching other college athletes with similar problems, that this is a VERY TOUGH injury to come back from!! If she is anywhere near 100% I would be very surprised.....more like 80% to start with many question marks as she continues to rehab and increase her swings. To expect her to be the same player that she was prior to the injury/surgery is wishful thinking! Player for player, no one has more talent than Stanford, not even Nebraska....I still see these two schools being in a class by themselves!
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Post by AntennaMagnet on Feb 28, 2007 20:14:47 GMT -5
I periodically wonder how far apart the average SAT scores are for the Nebraska and Stanford teams. Somewhere I read that Nebraska has more National Merit Scholars than any other campus.
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Post by GatorVball on Feb 28, 2007 23:18:49 GMT -5
Most recent National Merit Scholar numbers i could find
1. Harvard University -- 312 2. University of Florida -- 259 3. University of Texas -- 242 4. Yale University -- 224 5. Stanford University -- 217
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Post by brybry on Feb 28, 2007 23:54:13 GMT -5
Stanford and Nebraska are pretty even on talent, but Stanford does not have a Pavan. Klineman might get there at some point, but I doubt she's going to burst out of the gates as a girl who can hit over .400 past a constant double block. Maybe by next year. Pavan is like a Gamova at the college level. There is no one else like her. I doubt Cook will be foolish enough to keep a 6-2. He has to weigh whether the additional RS hitter is better than Pavan attacking from the D zone (in addition to all the issues of exposed weakness in defense everyone else mentioned). I think we all know the answer to that one.
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Post by doc on Feb 28, 2007 23:57:03 GMT -5
I periodically wonder how far apart the average SAT scores are for the Nebraska and Stanford teams. Somewhere I read that Nebraska has more National Merit Scholars than any other campus. I think it is Academic All-Americans
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Post by HOLIDAY on Mar 1, 2007 0:35:07 GMT -5
Correct Doc...Nebraska has more Academic All-Americans . Destrier !!!! Without Houghtelling the Huskers trounced Stanford. You commented that without her being 100% Nebraska is not the favorite? Really?
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Post by SakiBomb25 on Mar 1, 2007 2:44:27 GMT -5
Correct Doc...Nebraska has more Academic All-Americans . Destrier !!!! Without Houghtelling the Huskers trounced Stanford. You commented that without her being 100% Nebraska is not the favorite? Really? Interesting that you used the word trounced, considering that Stanford took a game off of them and made it very close in two of the three games they lost, with a three-point lead late in one of the games. Trounced to me means that the Huskers toyed with Stanford and never broke a sweat in doing so. I don't think that was the case.
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Post by Tiruray2004 on Mar 1, 2007 2:54:53 GMT -5
I don't think Nebraska's even the favorite unless Houghtelling returns 100%, and that's always a big if after shoulder surgery. Will she be playing in the spring tournaments? I have no inside information on Houghtelling's physical status, but I do know, from personal experience as well as from watching other college athletes with similar problems, that this is a VERY TOUGH injury to come back from!! If she is anywhere near 100% I would be very surprised.....more like 80% to start with many question marks as she continues to rehab and increase her swings. To expect her to be the same player that she was prior to the injury/surgery is wishful thinking! Player for player, no one has more talent than Stanford, not even Nebraska....I still see these two schools being in a class by themselves! Heard that Stanford will have a walk-on for the 2007 class who is very, very good! Anyone want to enlighten us?
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Post by SaltNPepper on Mar 1, 2007 6:19:47 GMT -5
Interesting that you used the word trounced, considering that Stanford took a game off of them and made it very close in two of the three games they lost, with a three-point lead late in one of the games. Trounced to me means that the Huskers toyed with Stanford and never broke a sweat in doing so. I don't think that was the case. Agree that trounced doesn't discribe the match very well. I think you could define it more by the "runs" both teams made. For the match, the Huskers ended up with a couple more than the Cardinal and that's really about it. It went like this: Game 1: Tied at about every point to 6, then Husker make a little run to 9-6 and the Cardinal closes back to tie at 11 and continue on to go up 15-12 and 18-15. Nebraska comes back, tied at 24 before Stanford makes the last run of the first game to win by 3. Game 2: Nebraska up early at 7-2, Stanford makes run and ties it at 8. The game stays within about a point all the way to 15 then Nebraska opens up a couple of point lead and then finishes it off and wins by 4. Total points at this time is now 57-56 Nebraska. Game 3: Ties until 4-4 then Huskers make a run to 8-4 and still up by 4 at 13-9 before the Cardinal comes back to tie at 15. Still tied at 19 when Stanford makes run to go up 23-19 and maintains at 26-22. Nebraska makes a real nice run to tie at 27 and closes out the game 30-28. IMO, that's the run the won the match for Nebraska. Total points now at 87-84. Game 4: Nebraska has a short run to get to 5-2. Stanford then ties it up at 5 - still tied at 11. Then the Huskers have a run and get it to 15-11, still at 21-18 before making another run to stretch it out to 28-21. Should have been over, but Stanford makes one more great run to close to 29-27, before Huskers finally win 30-27. Total points for the match, Nebraska 117 - Stanford 111. So Nebraska scored 51.3% of the points. Against UCLA, total points were 113-109 (50.9% for the Huskers). Throw out that 10 point serving run that Pavan had, and UCLA outscored Nebraska by 6. Nebraska didn't trounce anyone that weekend in Omaha - they just found a way to win. That's good enough for me.
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Post by destrier on Mar 1, 2007 8:18:24 GMT -5
Correct Doc...Nebraska has more Academic All-Americans . Destrier !!!! Without Houghtelling the Huskers trounced Stanford. You commented that without her being 100% Nebraska is not the favorite? Really? I'm not knocking or discounting Nebraska; they might well repeat even without a healthy Houghtelling. But if you take her out of the picture, then with the addition of Klineman and the return to form of Barboza, I'd make Stanford a slight favorite at this point. Not that anyone much cares what I or anyone else thinks ten months before the fact.
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Post by baywatcher on Mar 1, 2007 9:26:05 GMT -5
Somebody asked about a Stanford walk on; I believe that would be Ailes from the Nebraska Bellevue high school, who will contend for a libero/defensive specialist spot. I believe a key to next year will be that Nebraska will undoubtedly be ranked #1 and should keep that ranking all year. That should convert to a relatively easy regional assignment, meaning avoiding playing a top 4 type team in that teams own building. Don't think they will give Nebraska a regional in between hosting final 4's. Stanford and other top teams will have the more difficult road to the finals. Stanford should be able to compete, as described above they were beaten in the finals, but not crushed, and return a very representative team. But that team was taken to five by Missouri, was severely challenged by Texas, was taken to 30-28 scores or higher by Cal in at least two of three games, etc; and, rounding out an any team can lose on a given day cliche, of course we all remember Minnesota-Nebraska. Don't think that everybody else is "just playing for second" but Nebraska should have an edge in getting to the finals, if they do I suspect Stanford will be waiting with a significant home court crowd, then we'll see who gets the big points.
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Post by bigfan on Mar 1, 2007 10:26:16 GMT -5
Correct Doc...Nebraska has more Academic All-Americans . Destrier !!!! Without Houghtelling the Huskers trounced Stanford. You commented that without her being 100% Nebraska is not the favorite? Really? Interesting that you used the word trounced, considering that Stanford took a game off of them and made it very close in two of the three games they lost, with a three-point lead late in one of the games. Trounced to me means that the Huskers toyed with Stanford and never broke a sweat in doing so. I don't think that was the case. I think it was nice for NON Pac-10 team to win it once in a while. Like the stock market being re-adusted...the Pac-10 willl square things up in 2007
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Post by holidayhusker on Mar 1, 2007 10:38:41 GMT -5
Interesting that you used the word trounced, considering that Stanford took a game off of them and made it very close in two of the three games they lost, with a three-point lead late in one of the games. Trounced to me means that the Huskers toyed with Stanford and never broke a sweat in doing so. I don't think that was the case. I think it was nice for NON Pac-10 team to win it once in a while. Like sock market being re-adusted...the Pac-10 willl square things up in 2007 What was really nice is that the end of the season even you were gushing about Nebraska. We thank you for that Bigfan.
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Post by bigfan on Mar 1, 2007 10:41:33 GMT -5
I think it was nice for NON Pac-10 team to win it once in a while. Like sock market being re-adusted...the Pac-10 willl square things up in 2007 What was really nice is that the end of the season even you were gushing about Nebraska. We thank you for that Bigfan. This is true but it is a new season now........
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Post by destrier on Mar 1, 2007 11:17:37 GMT -5
I think it was nice for NON Pac-10 team to win it once in a while. Like sock market being re-adusted...the Pac-10 willl square things up in 2007 What was really nice is that the end of the season even you were gushing about Nebraska. We thank you for that Bigfan. Right now all the gushing is going on in a different thread where one poster keeps referring to Nicole Fawcett as "faucet."
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