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Post by Tex_VB_Fan on Mar 9, 2007 0:41:05 GMT -5
Hodge has got to be touching 10' 7". What do you think Hooker is touching? D was touching 10'8" in high school. I'd venture to say somewhere near 10'10" these days if not higher.
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Post by Chance on Mar 9, 2007 1:34:06 GMT -5
If all these touches were correct, there would be a lot more chicks dunking in basketball. Obviously dunking a ball takes more than "touching the height of the rim," but IIRC (not positive) a hoop is only ten even.
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Post by hwy101 on Mar 9, 2007 2:18:56 GMT -5
I would say Ogonna Nnamani is by the far the most effective player who attacks the ball around the 10''10" height. Explosive jumping ability.
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Post by volleydog on Mar 9, 2007 2:55:21 GMT -5
If all these touches were correct, there would be a lot more chicks dunking in basketball. Obviously dunking a ball takes more than "touching the height of the rim," but IIRC (not positive) a hoop is only ten even. The problem women have in dunking is not being able to palm the ball. If you can't palm it - you have to jump even higher than 10' to get the ball up above the rim - at least wrist high - the ball has to be "cupped" over the rim.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Mar 9, 2007 4:14:49 GMT -5
I am thinking along the same lines at Chance.
If these girls are touching 10-6 or higher, they should be able to two-hand dunk a ball. A woman's basketball is smaller than a man's two, making it easier for them to palm if they were to use that.
My guess? Heights are so badly overinflated that we can't tell apples from dead skunks.
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Post by bomber on Mar 9, 2007 8:49:39 GMT -5
I am thinking along the same lines at Chance. If these girls are touching 10-6 or higher, they should be able to two-hand dunk a ball. A woman's basketball is smaller than a man's two, making it easier for them to palm if they were to use that. My guess? Heights are so badly overinflated that we can't tell apples from dead skunks. I think there is a strong tendency to overemphasize the relationship of the jump touch to a player's ultimate ability to play well. Case in point, Dykstra of Wisconsin can certifiably jump reach almost 10'7", yet she hasn't been able to break into the starting line up for the Badgers yet. It doesn't do any good to be able to jump out of the gym if your other skills are less developed.
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Post by P10lurker on Mar 9, 2007 9:44:16 GMT -5
Nana Meriwether (UCLA) at 6’ 1” touched 10’ 7”… with very little effort.
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Post by bomber on Mar 9, 2007 9:49:33 GMT -5
I am thinking along the same lines at Chance. If these girls are touching 10-6 or higher, they should be able to two-hand dunk a ball. A woman's basketball is smaller than a man's two, making it easier for them to palm if they were to use that. My guess? Heights are so badly overinflated that we can't tell apples from dead skunks. I think there is a strong tendency to overemphasize the relationship of the jump touch to a player's ultimate ability to play well. Case in point, Dykstra of Wisconsin can certifiably jump reach almost 10'7", yet she hasn't been able to break into the starting line up for the Badgers yet. It doesn't do any good to be able to jump out of the gym if your other skills are less developed. Re: MN Spring VB « Reply #5 on Yesterday at 22:36 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can anyone tell me what happened to the incredible athlete that Minnesota recruited from Tampa. I think her last name was Jackson and she touched almost 10'9. She hardly ever played and I think the staff felt like she might never get to the level they had hoped. She should still be on the roster. Case in point.........
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Post by OverAndUnder on Mar 9, 2007 10:38:20 GMT -5
I would say Ogonna Nnamani is by the far the most effective player who attacks the ball around the 10''10" height. Explosive jumping ability. This is the most important part. Jump touch is just another raw metric; it is no more useful than simple height in evaluating volleyball effectiveness. Consider Emily Adams, for example. But when you watch Ogonna hit, especially those back row blasts from the 2004 NCAAs, it's obvious that her form is perfected so that she actually attacks the ball at the peak of her jump.
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Post by jgrout on Mar 9, 2007 12:28:49 GMT -5
I ... vaguely recall something about Foluke Akindawero touching 10' 8" in high school. Foluke jumped higher than they were equipped to measure at her Junior National Team tryout and made the team with no club experience (she was a three sport athlete whose first exposure to Stanford was at a track meet).
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Post by brybry2 on Mar 9, 2007 13:02:54 GMT -5
I would say Ogonna Nnamani is by the far the most effective player who attacks the ball around the 10''10" height. Explosive jumping ability. This is the most important part. Jump touch is just another raw metric; it is no more useful than simple height in evaluating volleyball effectiveness. Consider Emily Adams, for example. But when you watch Ogonna hit, especially those back row blasts from the 2004 NCAAs, it's obvious that her form is perfected so that she actually attacks the ball at the peak of her jump. Yeah, I think if these girls w/ the great jump touches have their timing down and have the arm swing (which many of them do not), their verticle becomes a huge advantage. As far as slam dunking, I bet a lot of them can but they wouldnt' be very spectacular. I would imagine that having to run and jump w/ a basketball lowers their jump a bit.
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Post by beachman on Mar 9, 2007 15:50:31 GMT -5
I am thinking along the same lines at Chance. If these girls are touching 10-6 or higher, they should be able to two-hand dunk a ball. A woman's basketball is smaller than a man's two, making it easier for them to palm if they were to use that. My guess? Heights are so badly overinflated that we can't tell apples from dead skunks. Hey IdahoPappy or whatever you are calling yourself this week.....Narcissism, you know I really think that this term defines your personality pretty well Anyway, if you knew anything about the mechanics of dunking a basketball you would know that you actually have to jump HIGHER to do a two hand dunk than a one hand dunk.....Of course you have to be able to palm the ball well to do the one hand dunk but you have to be able to jump HIGHER to dunk it with two hands.....btw Pappy, I saw Cheryl Weave dunk a basketball on several occasions after volleyball practice!! And there is no doubt in my mind that Alexis Crimes can do it as well since she touches 10'8"
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Post by fingrbustr on Mar 9, 2007 18:20:22 GMT -5
I would take Meriwether over Crimes in a second. I don't see what all the fuss over AC is. And I'm not being a beach hater or anything...Brent Hilliard is still my all-time favorite NCAA player.
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Post by BearClause on Mar 9, 2007 18:47:56 GMT -5
So, I just learned of a player touching 10' 7-1/2" and am really curious how that compares to other volleyball players currently and formerly playing. I think I remember Kim Willoughby touching something like 10' 5" and vaguely recall something about Foluke Akindawero touching 10' 8" in high school. I know that Ogonna Nnamani touched very, very high, as well... 10' 10" rings a bell. Didn't you once say that you could (at one time) hit your head on a basketball rim?
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Post by fingrbustr on Mar 9, 2007 18:55:06 GMT -5
So, I just learned of a player touching 10' 7-1/2" and am really curious how that compares to other volleyball players currently and formerly playing. I think I remember Kim Willoughby touching something like 10' 5" and vaguely recall something about Foluke Akindawero touching 10' 8" in high school. I know that Ogonna Nnamani touched very, very high, as well... 10' 10" rings a bell. Didn't you once say that you could (at one time) hit your head on a basketball rim? Haha...highly unlikely, even if he was bumping up to the size of elite skill-type vb players. A 6'6 person would need a 42 inch vert. That's basically Kobe (when he was young...not nowadays).
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