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Post by bunnywailer on Aug 14, 2008 0:17:29 GMT -5
On our Men's side our outside hitter was a junior college athlete and now he is starting in the olympics and doing well!! International experience is over rated in some cases!! You know what? Don't use Riley Salmon as an example to try and prove your point, because you have no idea what his background is. You seized on one aspect of his history and tried to make it fit your argument, when it has nothing to do with what you are talking about.
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Post by Murina on Aug 14, 2008 0:20:12 GMT -5
On our Men's side our outside hitter was a junior college athlete and now he is starting in the olympics and doing well!! International experience is over rated in some cases!! Salmon was a junior college athlete more than 10 years ago!!! You realize that he has been a professional athlete since 1999? He was a professional volleyball player for a full 4 years before his first Olympic go round - and he didn't exactly light it up his first time around. He is now one of the more internationally experienced players in the men's tournament.
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Post by Murina on Aug 14, 2008 0:23:04 GMT -5
I like that approach. I know it's common for alot of coaches to play green players in game 3 if they are up 2-0 in a match. I would have loved to see someone like Foulke get that type of experience this olympics. We seem to be following the world's lead on scoring and rule changes so why not develop players in a similar fashion?? I'm all for it! It requires blowing up the entire high school, JO and college system in the USA and starting over from scratch. Good luck getting the high schools and NCAA on board with that!
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Post by PukaPants on Aug 14, 2008 0:26:52 GMT -5
Not only do I believe that tenniscraze/baldyballder/johnnyvideo are one in the same, but this individual is not genuinely interested in a productive discourse about volleyball. His/her posts have gone beyond the verbal diarrhea stage and is now nothing but mental masturbation and you're all lending a hand...LOL.....you should all be ashamed!
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Post by rogero1 on Aug 14, 2008 1:08:22 GMT -5
On our Men's side our outside hitter was a junior college athlete and now he is starting in the olympics and doing well!! International experience is over rated in some cases!! Riley Salmon is in his 2nd Olympics and has been on the team since 2001. I think he might have a little International experience. I forgot to mention previously that it would take that handful of 5 skills collegiate players at least three years to get up to international speed. I also recall hearing from Doug Beal that there is NO substitute for international experience. Just remember that unlike the colleges and clubs, international tournaments are few and far during each year. Hence, the need to get current players into the international pipeline ASAP with HP programs. We will see if China's bypassing the World Cup this past year will hurt their medal chances. They have not played much this year before the Olympics.
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Post by rogero1 on Aug 14, 2008 1:16:58 GMT -5
I like that approach. I know it's common for alot of coaches to play green players in game 3 if they are up 2-0 in a match. I would have loved to see someone like Foulke get that type of experience this olympics. We seem to be following the world's lead on scoring and rule changes so why not develop players in a similar fashion?? Rules are not why our players are not better. Most of the other countries choose their players at a young age and develop them by keeping them in schools away from their families. We had a player (Tracy Stalls) who went to CoS to train directly from HS. That training helped her when she went back to collegiate ball. Can you imagine if your kid was taken away from you in the name of national pride?
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Post by Murina on Aug 14, 2008 1:23:00 GMT -5
Rules are not why our players are not better. Most of the other countries choose their players at a young age and develop them by keeping them in schools away from their families. We had a player (Tracy Stalls) who went to CoS to train directly from HS. That training helped her when she went back to collegiate ball. Can you imagine if your kid was taken away from you in the name of national pride? No they don't. That is true for China and Cuba. No one else does that anymore. China will cease to do that after these Olympics as volleyball will be privatized. In Cuba you really can't take kids very far from their parents - it's not that big of an island!
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