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Post by bunnywailer on Nov 1, 2008 12:30:46 GMT -5
..GOP propganda, huh? Those are all independent sites. What are you gonna tell me next? That all the statements made in those Congressional hearings were fabricated by the GOP spin? Only thing laughable here is you, trying to refute evidence that is a matter of public record. What evidence of public record are you talking about?? What bill ever passed the House?? What bill was ever introduced into the Senate?? Which Senator tried to filibuster that bill?? Your brain needs a filibuster. The Congressional records show the bill was sent back to committee for amendment. It died in committee when the term of the 110th Congress expired. Am I gonna have to draw a picture for you? Do you ignore the links I post and just continue on with your one-trick line of argument?
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Post by chipNdink on Nov 1, 2008 12:37:07 GMT -5
.. Your brain needs a filibuster. The Congressional records show the bill was sent back to committee for amendment. It died in committee when the term of the 110th Congress expired. .. That's exactly what I've been saying. The Republican led Congress and the Republican led committee allowed the bill to die in committee and NEVER produced a bill out of committee. When in FACT, the Republican led House could've EASILY passed the bill IF they WANTED; and the Republican led Senate could've used the nuclear option to stop ANY filibuster IF there was going to be a filibuster--which you still haven't given the NAME of a SINGLE Senator that said he/she would filibuster such a bill.
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Post by chipNdink on Nov 1, 2008 12:42:27 GMT -5
... Your brain needs a filibuster. The Congressional records show the bill was sent back to committee for amendment. It died in committee when the term of the 110th Congress expired. Am I gonna have to draw a picture for you? Do you ignore the links I post and just continue on with your one-trick line of argument? Am I gonna have to draw a picture for you? ONLY the majority party can kill a bill in committee. Period.
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Post by bunnywailer on Nov 1, 2008 12:45:03 GMT -5
Before the argument gets convoluted into 9 more pages of stupid arguing, let's look at the Democrats in action again:
Rep Gregory Meeks (D-New York) is very upset. Awww...poor baby. What do you have to say now, Mr. Meeks? Everything was terrific with Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, huh? Nothing bad is gonna happen, right?
Rep. Christopher Shays brings up an excellent point at the time, how could you NOT have put both of these GSEs under Sarbanes-Oxley?
So why is it that Obama's handlers have gone out into cyberspace and made anyone who posted videos of him criticizing GWB as being solely responsible for the mortgage crisis take their videos down? Simple, they knew he was uninformed and wrong in laying the blame solely on the Bush Administration and the Republicans. Democrats share equal blame for putting the economy and mortgage lending into the state it is in now.
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Post by chipNdink on Nov 1, 2008 12:59:22 GMT -5
How does ANYTHING said by ANY Democrat about ANYTHING change the FACT that REPUBLICANS killed the bill in committee??
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Post by bunnywailer on Nov 1, 2008 13:02:59 GMT -5
Let's see what this guy has to say.
Why don't you go argue the point with him? He agrees with me.
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Post by bunnywailer on Nov 1, 2008 13:03:21 GMT -5
I win. Thanks for playing.
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Post by chipNdink on Nov 1, 2008 13:07:09 GMT -5
Again, what does that have ANYTHING to do with the FACT that REPUBLICANS killed the bill in committee??
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Post by bunnywailer on Nov 1, 2008 13:09:04 GMT -5
Oh, and during the Obama Presidency which all of you can't wait to come to pass next Tuesday, expect alot more of this to happen - government handling out all kinds of perks and programs to people who can't afford to pay it back. Ever.
WTF were these ACORN idiots thinking advocating and pressuring banks to give loans to people who were barely making enough money to make ends meet with no intention of ever improving their economic situation to the point where they could qualify for mortgage lending based solely on their own creditworthiness and not needing artificial help from the government, at the risk of penalizing the entire mortgage lending market.
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Post by bunnywailer on Nov 1, 2008 13:13:13 GMT -5
Again, what does that have ANYTHING to do with the FACT that REPUBLICANS killed the bill in committee?? Got a source for that assertation? No, of course you don't. Both parties are responsible. But unlike the Democrats who in the past 6 months have done nothing but criticize or look to lay blame, the Repubs and the President rolled up their sleeves and said "Well, despite the fact that we warned you about this 5 years ago, the thing we most wanted not to happen has actually happened. What can we do now to fix this before it gets worse?" And yet, they get criticized for that as well, trying to offer a solution to a problem that the Democrats first caused and then ignored.
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Post by chipNdink on Nov 1, 2008 13:14:12 GMT -5
If the Democrats control Congress, then yes, I would hold Obama and the Democrats responsible for whatever takes place under their watch. Unless of course, the Republican Supreme Court prevents them from doing so in specific cases. Why do you have such a hard time holding the Republicans responsible for what happened under their watch, when they, in fact, controlled ALL 3 branches of government?
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Post by bunnywailer on Nov 1, 2008 13:17:33 GMT -5
I should email this entire thread to that dimwit Pelosi. Apparently here entire staff can't figure it out either, since she has always opened her big mouth and laid blame wherever she felt was convenient, much to the chagrin of even her own party. She has no idea that everytime she criticizes the whole mortgage lending crisis, that she is criticizing herself and her party as much as she is criticizing Bush and the other side of the aisle.
How can someone so stupid and unaware ever make it to the position of House Speaker? The brilliance of the Democratic Party, on display for everyone who is intelligent enough to step away from the hype and study politics for themselves to see.
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Post by chipNdink on Nov 1, 2008 13:18:41 GMT -5
Again, what does that have ANYTHING to do with the FACT that REPUBLICANS killed the bill in committee?? Got a source for that assertation? No, of course you don't. ... Yes, you. You're the one who said the bill never made it out of committee.
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Post by bunnywailer on Nov 1, 2008 13:18:45 GMT -5
If the Democrats control Congress, then yes, I would hold Obama and the Democrats responsible for whatever takes place under their watch. Unless of course, the Republican Supreme Court prevents them from doing so in specific cases. Why do you have such a hard time holding the Republicans responsible for what happened under their watch, when they, in fact, controlled ALL 3 branches of government? You need to discuss this further with Slick Willy. He'll set you straight.
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Post by bunnywailer on Nov 1, 2008 13:21:11 GMT -5
Got a source for that assertation? No, of course you don't. ... Yes, you. You're the one who said the bill never made it out of committee. Ah, I see. Too lazy to do your own research, eh? I thought so.
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