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Post by ciscokeed on May 10, 2009 11:39:48 GMT -5
Regarding Ciarelli, he's a freshman...There is a fine line between arrogance and confidence, and he is learning about that as we speak. I love his fire and his desire to take the big swings...Agreed that he lost some focus, and did not play his best match, but I'll take the smack talk along with what he can bring... Come on, it's kind of fun to see some old fashioned heckling going on...brings a little color to the game...Heck, when Karch was an underclassman he had plenty to say to the crowd...
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Post by jagdpanther on May 10, 2009 12:47:10 GMT -5
Ciarelli will be fine. The fans didn't bother him one bit.. The UCI irvine block did.. He just chose to behave a punk on his own. It wasn't because fans got to him. As far as heckling goes, USC players(in any NCAA sport) get heckled more than anyone else. It's a product of the football program more than anything. I can think of at least one program that I'm sure gets heckled more than any other program... It's the schools Whose Name Shall Not be Spoken in my family, but it resides in the midwest and is a religious school...
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Post by scvbfn on May 10, 2009 14:56:56 GMT -5
Any takes on the crowd at the championship match. Looked like UCI fans outnumbered USC fans especially among students. Read on another thread that the attendance was around 2000 in 2007 at Columbus. Actually it was closer to 5000 around 4800. It was bolstered a lot by about 1800 IPFW fans but was definitely a lot larger than the 3000 that were there in Provo. Given the fact that there were 2 teams from southern ca. in the finals and no BYU students around it wasn't too bad and the fans that were there seemed very enthusiastic. Any comments?
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Post by brybry on May 10, 2009 16:29:02 GMT -5
Congrats to UCI. I like that team a lot. I think they'll still contend in the next few years. I agree w/ all the stuff said on Ciarelli. Very talented. His skills bely his age, but his attitude does not. Needs to mature. No way would a veteran let himself get so effected by the crowd. He also has to accept that UCI's game plan to serve him every ball (a lot of short ones) and to commit block on him will inevitably slow him down on offense, but he can open things up for his teammates (next time around) by simply executing well and not trying to be the star. I kinda disagree w/ the comments on McKibbin whining. I mean, he is but it's more like politicking. Lots of players and coaches do that. They work the refs. It is very calculated and I do not think he gets emotional. Well, I'm proud of USC for their amazing run. They did have the title in their grasp but got a little tight and came up short. Hopefully they'll learn for it and they'll be one of the top teams for the next few years. Does anyone know who USC will have to replace Luke Morris? He's very solid on passing but ideally SC could have a stronger digger at libero.
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Post by alantech on May 10, 2009 17:02:10 GMT -5
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Post by UCDVolley on May 10, 2009 17:46:22 GMT -5
Does anyone know who USC will have to replace Luke Morris? He's very solid on passing but ideally SC could have a stronger digger at libero. I have nothing against this guy, but I think he was the weakest link for USC team. Maybe nerves were kicking in, but there were a couple of instances where he just stood there and forgot that he should be passing the ball. Anyway, congrats to UCI. It was a great game!
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Post by 30killspergame on May 10, 2009 18:13:29 GMT -5
USC will only get better at Libero. Brad Keenen is the likely starter next year, maybe Clay Knap.
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Post by 30killspergame on May 10, 2009 18:16:35 GMT -5
Any takes on the crowd at the championship match. Looked like UCI fans outnumbered USC fans especially among students. Read on another thread that the attendance was around 2000 in 2007 at Columbus. Actually it was closer to 5000 around 4800. It was bolstered a lot by about 1800 IPFW fans but was definitely a lot larger than the 3000 that were there in Provo. Given the fact that there were 2 teams from southern ca. in the finals and no BYU students around it wasn't too bad and the fans that were there seemed very enthusiastic. Any comments? There would have been more USC studens/bosters etc.. but they were in Maryland for the Women's water polo final(USC vs UCLA)
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Post by spiketown420 on May 10, 2009 18:44:09 GMT -5
damn the mpsf is going to be a really tough league next year!!!
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Post by ucsdfan on May 10, 2009 18:48:01 GMT -5
There would have been more USC studens/bosters etc.. but they were in Maryland for the Women's water polo final(USC vs UCLA) Okay, so had those twelve people made it to Provo, I still don't think that SC would have outnumbered UCI. Brybry: Good post and I agree that Ciarelli in time will mature and evolve into a team player. He's a good young player who will be very good by his senior year. As for McKibben politicking, I just don't see it that way. Killian was a master at it. He worked the refs with his attitude and joviality mixed in with game intensity. I see (have seen) some other setters/captains do this well such as Winder, Shoji, Thorton, and a few others. But that is not the case with McKibben. Running at a ref after a touch call with a look on his face like his dad just had his platinum card cancelled is not politicking. Whining as a reflex is not the technique employed by a good politicker. If as a casual fan I notice McKibben doing his act at least once per game and in the background I see the bench mob literally jumping up and down, then the refs must know this routine as a standard action. The lasting impact I would have as a ref is that they are whiners and I shouldnt take their complaining seriously. That's where a coach has gto step in and stop trying to be a buddy and instead be a leader and role model. But instead he's whining rigth there with them rather than calming them down. He's also up and standing in a position that affects his players when Morris shanks a pass and someone has to run it down. I've seen that once a match this year as well. Those are simple things that good disciplined coaching would correct. A point here and there separates a champion from a runner up. USC will be very good the next two years, but how good depends on whether or not Troy can imprint his attittude on the team.
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Post by 1221pch on May 10, 2009 18:58:18 GMT -5
Who is going to replace Asuka at UCI next year?
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Post by silversurfer on May 10, 2009 19:57:25 GMT -5
Word I got was that the USC setter went after a photographer after the match, and had various other outbreaks of crappy behavior after the match.
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Post by notsocal2 on May 10, 2009 20:12:58 GMT -5
Interesting info on the usc setter - and from what it sounds looks like he may have some maturing to do as well. Most of the hawaii kids I've seen are solid competitors, but don't carry it with them after the game and are pretty easy to get along with --- and I guess there are always exceptions. Only saw usc early in the year, and didn't see any negatives, but constant whining is something a lot of folks can't stand, and i have to believe will hurt more than help you over the long haul
And by the way Ciarelli is good, but he I'd have to say he a long ways to go before being compared to Karch. By the way, who is the most Karch-like player these days? Maybe Vance this year, but who going forward?
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Post by volleyballfan2 on May 10, 2009 20:56:56 GMT -5
The setter did not go after a photographer. The libero had a camera shoved in his face and responded.
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Post by ucsdfan on May 11, 2009 0:02:21 GMT -5
The setter did not go after a photographer. The libero had a camera shoved in his face and responded. I heard he pulled a knife of three reporters and then kicked a small dog that was sleeping and then tried to smuggle more than 3 ounces of toothpaste past the TSA geniuses at the airport.
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