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Post by smiley on Dec 7, 2009 20:35:53 GMT -5
As much as I hate to admit it but volleyball is a MUCH bigger deal in Hawaii than in central Illinois. Thus you have posters taking the time and trouble to post on youtube, etc. I know Hambly is a BIG fan of tape exchange so I would think all the Hawaii staff has to do is just ask and he will give them what ever they want .... and vice versa.
How are you hurting the team by not being on youtube? Volleyball is a small world and any recruits you want you go visit and try to get them to come in person. Has Hawaii ever gotten a recruit because of youtube? Has anyone? It certainly wouldn't hurt to do it but how much does it help? If you can give me good enough reasons I'll bring it up at the next board meeting. Heck I might bring it up anyway. Just the more reasons I have the better I can persuade him. He's really open to "new" ideas.
Have you tried the BTN? I haven't looked myself because I see most of them live.
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Post by m on Dec 7, 2009 20:49:40 GMT -5
I wonder who Obama would root for in this match?
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Dec 7, 2009 20:57:31 GMT -5
As much as I hate to admit it but volleyball is a MUCH bigger deal in Hawaii than in central Illinois. Thus you have posters taking the time and trouble to post on youtube, etc. I know Hambly is a BIG fan of tape exchange so I would think all the Hawaii staff has to do is just ask and he will give them what ever they want .... and vice versa. even if they don't ask each other for tapes ... it's mandatory in the postseason. you have to provide video/dvd of your team's last match (which would be the 2nd round matches) to all the schools at your regional.
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Post by david on Dec 7, 2009 21:21:17 GMT -5
Here's my guess- Hawaii will be surprised by Banghert's speed, and overpowered by Bartsch's size. They'll get their points, I expect the match to be close, but one of Illinois' strengths is that they have the ability to set a high ball off an out-of-system pass or dig and still do some damage.
And if Hawaii's serving doesn't get Illinois out of system consistently, it will be a short night for the Wahines- Illinois doesn't run it's middles much not because they can't, but because it's just easier to loft it up to their OHs.
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Post by dd2000 on Dec 7, 2009 21:25:20 GMT -5
Here's my guess- Hawaii will be surprised by Banghert's speed, and overpowered by Bartsch's size. They'll get their points, I expect the match to be close, but one of Illinois' strengths is that they have the ability to set a high ball off an out-of-system pass or dig and still do some damage. And if Hawaii's serving doesn't get Illinois out of system consistently, it will be a short night for the Wahines- Illinois doesn't run it's middles much not because they can't, but because it's just easier to loft it up to their OHs. When you get this deep in the tournament, you have to run a complete offense, which includes your middles. Blocking and back row play are too good at this stage, so you have to keep the opposing teams off balance. It can be done with just your OH's, but its a much more difficult route.
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Post by carpevolleyball on Dec 7, 2009 21:27:39 GMT -5
At this level the complete offense includes the back row attack, too. So to U of I's credit, they do run that well. BOTH Bartch and DeBruler can rip it from the back row. However, I still contend that Haen will have to use the middles (even if they don't score a ton) in order to help keep things more balanced. Both in this match and moving forward (if they win).
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Post by WI FIB on Dec 7, 2009 21:36:40 GMT -5
When you get this deep in the tournament, you have to run a complete offense, which includes your middles. Blocking and back row play are too good at this stage, so you have to keep the opposing teams off balance. It can be done with just your OH's, but its a much more difficult route. Johannah Bangert and Erin Johnson, the two Illinois middles. hit .444 and .417 respectively against Dayton. Granted, they each only had 5 kills, but I would think that makes them enough of an option that Hawaii has to at least respect their hitting ability.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 7, 2009 21:56:00 GMT -5
As much as I hate to admit it but volleyball is a MUCH bigger deal in Hawaii than in central Illinois. Thus you have posters taking the time and trouble to post on youtube, etc. I know Hambly is a BIG fan of tape exchange so I would think all the Hawaii staff has to do is just ask and he will give them what ever they want .... and vice versa. How are you hurting the team by not being on youtube? Volleyball is a small world and any recruits you want you go visit and try to get them to come in person. Has Hawaii ever gotten a recruit because of youtube? Has anyone? It certainly wouldn't hurt to do it but how much does it help? If you can give me good enough reasons I'll bring it up at the next board meeting. Heck I might bring it up anyway. Just the more reasons I have the better I can persuade him. He's really open to "new" ideas. Have you tried the BTN? I haven't looked myself because I see most of them live. What board meeting? Typo? Broad meeting? Sure easier done in Hawaii than in central Illinois, I think. Don't really know; it's been such a long time since I was in Champaign.
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Post by lonewolf on Dec 7, 2009 21:56:21 GMT -5
When you get this deep in the tournament, you have to run a complete offense, which includes your middles. Blocking and back row play are too good at this stage, so you have to keep the opposing teams off balance. It can be done with just your OH's, but its a much more difficult route. I feel like being picky...so, your last sentence kind of contradicts your first sentence. Also...the stronger the right side attack is (espescially with a lower tempo set to the pins) the less need there is to run the middle when there are 3 hitters front row.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 7, 2009 21:57:42 GMT -5
Here's my guess- Hawaii will be surprised by Banghert's speed, and overpowered by Bartsch's size. They'll get their points, I expect the match to be close, but one of Illinois' strengths is that they have the ability to set a high ball off an out-of-system pass or dig and still do some damage. And if Hawaii's serving doesn't get Illinois out of system consistently, it will be a short night for the Wahines- Illinois doesn't run it's middles much not because they can't, but because it's just easier to loft it up to their OHs. Wow, you really think Hawaii is that bad, don't you?
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Post by pineapple on Dec 7, 2009 22:00:34 GMT -5
When you get this deep in the tournament, you have to run a complete offense, which includes your middles. Blocking and back row play are too good at this stage, so you have to keep the opposing teams off balance. It can be done with just your OH's, but its a much more difficult route. I feel like being picky...so, your last sentence kind of contradicts your first sentence. Also...the stronger the right side attack is (espescially with a lower tempo set to the pins) the less need there is to run the middle when there are 3 hitters front row. Hmmm...not really.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 7, 2009 22:04:36 GMT -5
When there are three hitters in the front row, I assume in your team, why not use all three, not just the outside.
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Post by pineapple on Dec 7, 2009 22:10:39 GMT -5
When you get this deep in the tournament, you have to run a complete offense, which includes your middles. Blocking and back row play are too good at this stage, so you have to keep the opposing teams off balance. It can be done with just your OH's, but its a much more difficult route. Johannah Bangert and Erin Johnson, the two Illinois middles. hit .444 and .417 respectively against Dayton. Granted, they each only had 5 kills, but I would think that makes them enough of an option that Hawaii has to at least respect their hitting ability. Five kills each over 4 sets? or average in a set? If the former is correct they can hit 1.000
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Post by BRADAHMAN on Dec 8, 2009 1:00:32 GMT -5
Here's my guess- Hawaii will be surprised by Banghert's speed, and overpowered by Bartsch's size. They'll get their points, I expect the match to be close, but one of Illinois' strengths is that they have the ability to set a high ball off an out-of-system pass or dig and still do some damage. And if Hawaii's serving doesn't get Illinois out of system consistently, it will be a short night for the Wahines- Illinois doesn't run it's middles much not because they can't, but because it's just easier to loft it up to their OHs. I have not seen Illinois this season, but I don't think that there are too many teams that can beat Hawaii if you are not able to be in system for most of the match. Hawaii has great floor defense. USC averaged about 15 kills per game in the PAC 10, yet the outside hitters struggled to hit ground against the Wahine.
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Post by smiley on Dec 8, 2009 1:06:07 GMT -5
All this concern for the Illinois middle attack. How goes the Hawaii middle attack? Do they get set as often as the OH? They must get set a lot to be so concerned about our lack of one.
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