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Post by pogoball on Sept 30, 2010 22:51:23 GMT -5
The best hitter on the team is a left-handed OH. IMO, she has turned below-average Big10 hitters into good hitters because of her location/delivery. although Hunt is not what I would consider a below-average Big 10 hitter (with or without Zimmerman) we do have to recognize that Zimmerman does have to set the LS for a left handed hitter half the rotations she's on the floor. That does place a greater emphasis on controlled set location. But....also to be fair, Zimmerman has had the last three years to set a Left Handed-Leftside hitter I did not mean to imply that Hunt was below average, though I can see how my remark could be interpreted that way. Hunt is indeed a superior hitter, but being left handed makes it more difficult to locate a good set for her. IIRC, Hunt played primarily right side as a prep, yet she transitioned smoothly to OH for Michigan and I would contend that having a setter like Lexi makes that much easier. My remark was referring to a number of other starting hitters at UM over the past couple seasons. For whatever reason, UM has not had top terminators.
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Post by BearClause on Sept 30, 2010 23:28:16 GMT -5
Lexi is too flashy for her own good. She doesn't need to overhand set all the low passes then fall to the ground. She can easily bump set those. Uh, that's how you're SUPPOSED to set a low ball.....with your hands WHENEVER possible. Bump set only in desperation. You ALWAYS have better control with your hands. There is a point where there's a huge risk of getting called for a double or lift - even if the set is perfect. Some refs call those on principle. I've also seen players try the kneepads to the floor set and either lifted or just sprayed the ball to a random location. The one thing I learned about overhand setting is that the legs are just as important as the hands. If the legs can't get much into the setting action, then a bump set is probably a better course of action. If it looks like a setter is doing a limbo, then I'd think it's not best for either accuracy or playing on without getting called for a violation.
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Post by mplssetter on Oct 1, 2010 0:13:10 GMT -5
Wouldn't that be considered an "athletic attempt" at setting the ball, therefor NOT get called a double?
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Post by mplssetter on Oct 1, 2010 0:14:07 GMT -5
I'd like to know who the "others" are that people are voting for?
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Post by VBCOACH on Oct 1, 2010 0:15:25 GMT -5
Uh, that's how you're SUPPOSED to set a low ball.....with your hands WHENEVER possible. Bump set only in desperation. You ALWAYS have better control with your hands. When I say low, I mean lowwwwwwwwwwwww like below the waist low. She's a brave kid though. I've never seen someone love diving on the floor that much. THUD! Yes, below the waist low. That's what I meant.
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Post by VBCOACH on Oct 1, 2010 0:25:57 GMT -5
Uh, that's how you're SUPPOSED to set a low ball.....with your hands WHENEVER possible. Bump set only in desperation. You ALWAYS have better control with your hands. There is a point where there's a huge risk of getting called for a double or lift - even if the set is perfect. Some refs call those on principle. I've also seen players try the kneepads to the floor set and either lifted or just sprayed the ball to a random location. The one thing I learned about overhand setting is that the legs are just as important as the hands. If the legs can't get much into the setting action, then a bump set is probably a better course of action. If it looks like a setter is doing a limbo, then I'd think it's not best for either accuracy or playing on without getting called for a violation. If some refs call those sets on principle then they're really bad refs. The rule states that you can only call what you see. You can't play the game on the assumption that the refs are bad. I like using the legs to set, but they're not necessary. Many players today (including women) primarily use their wrists. In my youth, I could set an accurate ball that was between knee and waist high by falling under the ball and extending my arms and flicking my wrists. Honest.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2010 1:05:47 GMT -5
You can still do it. It's doing it a second time that's going to be the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2010 1:07:23 GMT -5
I'd like to know who the "others" are that people are voting for? I'd bet a million lira it's Mafua.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 1, 2010 1:25:12 GMT -5
I'd like to know who the "others" are that people are voting for? I'd bet a million lira it's Mafua. yep, Mafua or Carpenter....a poll that doesn't have any Hawaii or PSU players on it? I thought this was volleytalk!
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Oct 1, 2010 3:00:04 GMT -5
I think it says something about the question itself. No matter who you put on the list, there are enough differing opinions out there that "Other" would get a lot of votes or even (like as of this post) have a share of the lead.
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Post by folome on Oct 1, 2010 5:13:46 GMT -5
The best setter this year will prove out to be Kelly Murphy at UF.
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Post by VBCOACH on Oct 1, 2010 7:37:16 GMT -5
You can still do it. It's doing it a second time that's going to be the problem. Well, I understand they serve you ice cream in the hospital.
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Post by happyvalleydrifter on Oct 1, 2010 7:37:30 GMT -5
Haen and Zimmerman are both very good setters, but I am not even certain they are the best in the Big Ten, let alone the nation. Zimmerman has been a little overrated since she stepped foot in Ann Arbor just due to her flashiness. Haen does a good job with an offensive arsenal that is not nearly as loaded as some think, but nothing she does is more than what I would say any top 20 setter could do with what she has. Let's face it, Illinois is not known for its balanced offense, or really offense in general.
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Post by nanocore on Oct 1, 2010 7:59:21 GMT -5
While I am not sure she is the best, I do think she could be mentioned among the best. Very aggressive as an offensive setter, athletic and deceitful and seems to make good decisions with good location.
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Post by MTC on Oct 1, 2010 9:42:12 GMT -5
The most improved setter this year is probably Kristen Carpenter. I just wish she was taller.
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