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Post by gocalbears on Nov 26, 2010 1:02:00 GMT -5
How exactly is Stanford a 2 seed and cal not even in the top 4 if both teams win out? 3 losses a piece and cal beat Stanford twice? Just a bit confused on your reasoning. not judging it, just want clarification on why you think this! Was at the game last night and everything seemed a little... off in all aspects of the game. Passing was just a little... off, sets were just a little off... blocking well... you get the picture. ASU played incredible defense though, got to give it to them! Stanford has the better RPI, has the better preseason, has the better common opponent match up (Beat USC 2x, split with UCLA, and will most likely have the better record v. ASU), has not "bad" losses (hasn't lost outside of the top ten AVCA, but has the worse head-to-head. I don't necessarily think that should lead to such a huge difference in the seeding between Stanford and Cal, I can see Stanford being ahead of Cal but shouldn't be by that much... Cal handled Stanford pretty easily in both matches. Hiccup is a hiccup, good thing now instead of a early round loss a la Csu-Washington type match (sorry Husky fans, only thing I could think of)
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Post by ccman on Nov 26, 2010 1:06:28 GMT -5
The ranking of Stanford @ #2 isn't where I'd put them, it's where I think they'll be placed.
The main reason is non-conference. Stanford played a tougher schedule, and the Florida tournament trip wins coupled with non conference & RPI is why I think they'll seed them as I did(barring Friday's results). I can see Cal being #4 (maybe) with PSU as #5, but I don't think so. I am sure all those teams will be the top 5, the order may be off.
Now if I were to seed the teams.
#1: Stanford #2: Florida #3: Cal #4: Nebraska #5: Penn State
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 26, 2010 1:08:00 GMT -5
Washington lost last year in the final weekend. We fans tried to tell ourselves that it was better it had happened then than happening in the tournament -- but of course you know what happened.
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Post by gocalbears on Nov 26, 2010 1:10:27 GMT -5
Washington lost last year in the final weekend. We fans tried to tell ourselves that it was better it had happened then than happening in the tournament -- but of course you know what happened. Well here is to hoping it doesn't happen to Cal. You may not hope for the same but when Cal isn't playing in the pac-10 i'm as all pac-10 as they come... except with Stanford, sometimes
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Post by midnightblue on Nov 26, 2010 1:45:11 GMT -5
Stanford has the better RPI, has the better preseason, has the better common opponent match up (Beat USC 2x, split with UCLA, and will most likely have the better record v. ASU), has not "bad" losses (hasn't lost outside of the top ten AVCA, but has the worse head-to-head. I don't necessarily think that should lead to such a huge difference in the seeding between Stanford and Cal, I can see Stanford being ahead of Cal but shouldn't be by that much... Cal handled Stanford pretty easily in both matches. Hiccup is a hiccup, good thing now instead of a early round loss a la Csu-Washington type match (sorry Husky fans, only thing I could think of) I NEVER gave numbers.. I just stated that Stanford should be seeded higher due to their body of work over this season... and I did in fact say that Cal swept their Stanford matches this season..not sure why you pointed that out because I definitely acknowledged that..
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Post by chipNdink on Nov 26, 2010 1:53:59 GMT -5
Washington lost last year in the final weekend. We fans tried to tell ourselves that it was better it had happened then than happening in the tournament -- but of course you know what happened. But then again, the 2005 Huskies lost their last ROAD match of the regular season to UCLA, then found out ALL their matches for the tournament would be ROAD matches -- and we all know how that turned out.
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Post by tomclen on Nov 26, 2010 5:47:14 GMT -5
To further Husky-jack this thread, this year I really like UW going into the tournament because there are ZERO expectations.
UW is viewed, rightfully, as just a middle-of-the-Pac team that won't even be seeded in the tournament. No one is running around calling them a FF team this year. So I'm hopeful that the absence of any pressure will allow them to fire on all cylinders.
And I'm still holding onto a faint sliver of hope that they get to host rounds 1/2. Not because I think they need (or deserve) the home-court advantage, but because I want to be able to go to the games. Last year's early round streaming was abysmal.
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