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NIRSA
Feb 1, 2007 22:38:06 GMT -5
Post by MarqVB11 on Feb 1, 2007 22:38:06 GMT -5
As for them losing to UWM in the preseason, they didnt have their starting lineup, and no one wanted to be there past 6 o'clock in order to make the Thanksgiving Extravaganza drunk fest back at school. The world-famous Sheboygan metropolis doesn't even have enough people to throw anything that could be considered an extravaganza. Anyone anxious to get back to Howards Grove should be committed. Aside from that, Lakeland will wind up falling short of the national title because of the same reason that they may actually get close: Chad. Chad can coach a kid from chicken sh*t in high school into chicken salad. Over the course of the season, some of the players get sick of dealing with Chad which negatively affects the team when a your coach is involved like a varsity coach is. Check MU for our worst result in the past 6 years...we had some problems in that department that year. Is it time to go to Austin yet? Go Chicago Bears.
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NIRSA
Feb 1, 2007 23:20:55 GMT -5
Post by stupidmiddle on Feb 1, 2007 23:20:55 GMT -5
Does Lakeland have players on scholarship? I've heard Oshkosh does...can anyone confirm this? How many schools (if any) give scholarships to club players?
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NIRSA
Feb 2, 2007 1:37:05 GMT -5
Post by giba911 on Feb 2, 2007 1:37:05 GMT -5
Lakeland doesn't have any players on athletic scolarship. As for Oshkosh I don't think so either, considering their coach protested a match against MATC 3 years back. Which at the time I thought was stupid because they were playing them in the second round of gold division at nationals!! Arizona did give scolarships, but that era has ended I heard. I don't know who else may. Personally I think that either MU, Oshkosh, or Lakeland should go NCAA like Carthage did. Carthage might I add did play in the WVC the year before they went NCAA, and lost to both Oshkosh and Lakeland that year. Just seems like it would make for a better conference than what Carthage is playing in right now. The "B" league or something in the MIVA, which is stupid in my opinion.
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NIRSA
Feb 2, 2007 1:47:50 GMT -5
Post by setterdump on Feb 2, 2007 1:47:50 GMT -5
Glad to see someone stepped up to the drinking challenge mucads6. Coors Light keg race. Time and place?
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Feb 2, 2007 9:27:31 GMT -5
Post by star035 on Feb 2, 2007 9:27:31 GMT -5
I don't see any team in the nation that has a middle duo like our big two Illinois: Ryan Fabrizious (three time All-American) and Miles Kilgallon.
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NIRSA
Feb 2, 2007 10:13:25 GMT -5
Post by Lew8ftln on Feb 2, 2007 10:13:25 GMT -5
The world-famous Sheboygan metropolis doesn't even have enough people to throw anything that could be considered an extravaganza. Anyone anxious to get back to Howards Grove should be committed. Aside from that, Lakeland will wind up falling short of the national title because of the same reason that they may actually get close: Chad. Wow how true.....Whenever we went to Lakeland we always talked about the guys goin to to the one that had college kids in it to drink...."hey you guys goin to the house tonight?" But that is funny cuz they have always left to go home instead of stayin to drink w/e. Makes u wonder if we're missin somethin in Sheboygan? As for the 'Chad' issue I agree. It's tough in the club scene cuz ppl can bring a program up out of nothing, yet hold it back in the end. Something that we've had to deal w/ at Oshkosh in that the same situations have arisen (sp?) where a player decides to blow stuff off. Luckily enough it never affected our season w/ how and when discipline was enforced but it's inevitable w/ collegiate club when u got guys who think they're good enough to get away w/ shlt. I think Chad would benefit by realizing that players should be pulled for stuff up/until it affects matches. Case in point: Dave Koch was one of their better players a couple years ago and they could have been so much better, but because Chad butted heads w/ him and felt he had to prove his authority, Lakeland fell short cuz a guy that could make a huge difference was on the bench half the time. I guess we'll see if the players can overcome that 'authority' this year to win it all
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Feb 2, 2007 10:52:26 GMT -5
Post by realmenplaylibero on Feb 2, 2007 10:52:26 GMT -5
I don't see any team in the nation that has a middle duo like our big two Illinois: Ryan Fabrizious (three time All-American) and Miles Kilgallon. Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Fabs is big and efficient... and Miles is the best middle in the Big Ten.
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NIRSA
Feb 2, 2007 11:23:08 GMT -5
Post by muskie5 on Feb 2, 2007 11:23:08 GMT -5
Lewin, how many years did you play for chad? Oh thats right 0. Thanks for your worthless, outsiders opinion on how good of a coach chad is. And by the way, we could have been so much better a few years ago had certain players, including but not limited to Dave, actually cared about the team and getting better. A few of the players from "that team" butted heads with chad because they were happy with the level of play there were at and chad wasnt. But seeing as you played for chad so many times, you probably already knew that.
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NIRSA
Feb 2, 2007 11:47:24 GMT -5
Post by athalete on Feb 2, 2007 11:47:24 GMT -5
I will also take Mike Semrad over Avdo any day of the week...then Danny Hessling versus Jared Rowland- I will take the Oshkosh duo over that one too.
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NIRSA
Feb 2, 2007 11:55:52 GMT -5
Post by nellakwah21 on Feb 2, 2007 11:55:52 GMT -5
I don't see any team in the nation that has a middle duo like our big two Illinois: Ryan Fabrizious (three time All-American) and Miles Kilgallon. Word....you read my mind.....
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Feb 2, 2007 12:31:58 GMT -5
Post by wisky4 on Feb 2, 2007 12:31:58 GMT -5
Danny Hessling over Jared Rohland? Please ill take Jared any day over Danny. And to all those badmouthing chad, hes a great coach and unless you've played for him you have no reason to say anything about him so he should just be left out of any comments.
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Feb 2, 2007 16:02:37 GMT -5
Post by dickiedo on Feb 2, 2007 16:02:37 GMT -5
Chad is a great coach for people who need to be coached.... barring that, Dave did not come from highschool team or some junior club team. He is a byproduct of his fathers grooming and if Chad was such a great coach he would have been able to learn that by leaving Dave on the court, he (Dave) would have figured out how to beat the opposing team faster then Chad would. Why? Because Dave knows the game as well if not better than Chad does.
Furthermore Lakeland's train to win the championship left the station when Rocky Koenig, Jon Lewicky, Chris Gornik and Dave Koch Graduated.... They and the rest of that team that year were a amazing group of players that I personally enjoyed watching and from whom actually got me interested in this sport from which I never played before.
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Feb 3, 2007 13:14:42 GMT -5
Post by giba911 on Feb 3, 2007 13:14:42 GMT -5
I played on those Lakeland teams with Chad as a coach, with Gornik, and Koch, so I know a little about Chad. Chad may not be the greatest coach in the world, but I know for a fact that we played better because of him. If you looked at our teams back then in the pre-season we would be a mess. We would argue and not play up to our potential and lose to teams we would beat later in the regular season. But when the season roled around Chad would always get on our asses and keep us focused, because thats what coaches have to do. I wasn't a big fan of the screaming and some of the tactics he coached, but for most of us on that team we all wanted him there because it was good for the team. If it wasn't for Chad, Gornik, Koch, and Lewicki, and myself, we might not have even played at Lakeland to begin with. I didn't even know about Lakeland until Chad called!! Those teams were probably the best teams I have ever played on in my volleyball career, with some of the best guys I have ever played with, but to say that the National championship train left the station when that team left is crap. This Lakeland team right now has enough potential and enough weapons to make a championship run of their own. Trust me, Chad will keep them focused and have them playing well enough to kick some ass. Good luck to Lakeland on their season.
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Feb 3, 2007 17:03:28 GMT -5
Post by mucads6 on Feb 3, 2007 17:03:28 GMT -5
If it wasn't for Chad, Gornik, Koch, and Lewicki, and myself, we might not have even played at Lakeland to begin with. I didn't even know about Lakeland until Chad called!! Probably would have been better if you never knew about Lakeland, unless you like crappy schools in the middle of nowhere. So I guess that suits you.
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Feb 3, 2007 22:54:17 GMT -5
Post by slizide on Feb 3, 2007 22:54:17 GMT -5
It is true. Lakeland is a place that not many people want to visit. But ask anyone one of the WVC guys that came to visit and they will tell you they had a good drunken time. As for chad. He is not only a great guy, but a good coach. I played for him for four years and most of the time the team did not agree with what he did or said, but he new exactly what he was talking about. The reason we never won a national championship or lost some mathces we should have won had nothing to do with Chad schreiber. That had everything to do with the people on the court and the bench. People were put on the bench for a reason. You can't have players yelling at each other and still win volleyballl matches. Everyone just lay off the chad hate train. He has done great things not only for lakeland club volleyball but for NIRSA in general. There are alot of teams out there that would benefit from a guy who is as organized and caring about volleyball as chad is. GO CHICAGO BEARS!!!
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