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NIRSA
Feb 12, 2007 12:17:02 GMT -5
Post by widsmith on Feb 12, 2007 12:17:02 GMT -5
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NIRSA
Feb 12, 2007 12:54:50 GMT -5
Post by dmj142 on Feb 12, 2007 12:54:50 GMT -5
What was the deal with Marquette this past weekend. For all the people who picked them to do very well, they looked like they were missing half their team. They pretty much got handled by most teams, including a mediocre Notre Dame team playing without 2 of their starters. They did give Lakeland a run for their money, so props on that.
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NIRSA
Feb 12, 2007 13:07:42 GMT -5
Post by giba911 on Feb 12, 2007 13:07:42 GMT -5
Kind of shocked about this weekend. Kind of expected Lakeland to drop a match. Surprised that Marquette didn't play well.
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NIRSA
Feb 12, 2007 13:33:51 GMT -5
Post by mivaobserver on Feb 12, 2007 13:33:51 GMT -5
Im not meaning to bash Marquette, but why does everyone think they should be so good? Other than the lanky middle, they don't have any dependable kill-producers. Their freshman setter, while he may be good offensively and in defensively in the back row, provides a weak block in the front row and is an easy target for any team with outsides that can put a ball away from the back row. Their back row is solid, I'll give them that, but the netplay is weak. Is it because they've done so well the past two years that everyone wants them to be good? Are they missing a key starter or two? Is their "lack of emotion" that much of an influence to cause what many thought to be a sure #3 in the conference to go 1-4? You can't be up for every game, but good teams still find a way to win.
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NIRSA
Feb 12, 2007 14:18:17 GMT -5
Post by athalete on Feb 12, 2007 14:18:17 GMT -5
Not defending them, because they played poorly, but Marquette was not at full strength. From what their coach told me, they were missing their other middle, and their best player on the outside was not healthy at all. To say they got handled might be overdoing it as well, three matches that could have gone either way, did not go theirs. 1-5 could have been 4-2. But the team looks like it is still missing that dominant guy that can get the kill when needed. Outplayed and not making plays at the end. That is why they lost.
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NIRSA
Feb 12, 2007 14:23:10 GMT -5
Post by muoh61010 on Feb 12, 2007 14:23:10 GMT -5
i wouldn't say that. as was previously mentioned, their #1 OH was sick and was not 100% and they were missing their other middle because of an ankle injury. from what i've seen, marquette is a team that runs on energy. i'm not saying they don't have talent, cuz they do, but when their energy level is up, they are a team that can hang with the best of them. unfortunately, they fell just short in three critical matches against oshkosh, lakeland, and niu.
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NIRSA
Feb 12, 2007 21:31:01 GMT -5
Post by MarqVB11 on Feb 12, 2007 21:31:01 GMT -5
Their freshman setter, while he may be good offensively and in defensively in the back row, provides a weak block in the front row and is an easy target for any team with outsides that can put a ball away from the back row. I loved my setters in my four years at Marquette, but none of them were very good blockers. All we did was win. Maybe teams didn't take advantage of matchups properly, or a team can overcome select weaknesses that are present. Marquette may have other problems present this year, but I wouldn't put a lot of stock into a poor blocking setter being a fatal flaw.
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NIRSA
Feb 12, 2007 22:12:07 GMT -5
Post by zip15 on Feb 12, 2007 22:12:07 GMT -5
Their freshman setter, while he may be good offensively and in defensively in the back row, provides a weak block in the front row and is an easy target for any team with outsides that can put a ball away from the back row. I loved my setters in my four years at Marquette, but none of them were very good blockers. All we did was win. Maybe teams didn't take advantage of matchups properly, or a team can overcome select weaknesses that are present. Marquette may have other problems present this year, but I wouldn't put a lot of stock into a poor blocking setter being a fatal flaw. A poor blocking setter isn't the end of the world, but if a team has other flaws like MU does this year it certainly hurts. It appears to me that they have a team this year that is more based on emotion and energy on the court as opposed to previous years or Oshkosh/Lakeland who had pure power and the ability to block, dig and put balls away at will. Not saying a team can't go far on energy and emotion cause there are plenty of teams that do, specially coupled with a lot a scrap on defense however, with a team like that, its harder to overcome a weak block because things are based so much on defense. Marquette will be fine, especially when they get healthy, but they will beat teams based on hustle and energy, not pure skill like they have done in the past.
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NIRSA
Feb 17, 2007 13:12:52 GMT -5
Post by hateonyou on Feb 17, 2007 13:12:52 GMT -5
Being sick isn't an excuse for getting your ass handed to you. I've played with pneumonia and injuries, once adrenaline gets going, you come with it or use your sniffles as an excuse for embarrassing yourself.
Big Ten tourney synopsis: Illinois is the deepest program in the country. When you can sit half your starters for 80% of the tournament and have them come in fresh against a UW or MSU when their starters are on their 8th match, you have a decided advantage. They played a great tournament.
UW and MSU are physically talented but really inconsistant right now, Sante tore into his team for a half hour even after beating UW. Purdue had a good first day, Minnesota lost to Northwestern, but isn't that horrible of a team. Sorry Big Red, Dave is your L1, his serving and passing kept you guys competitive all weekend. The whole thing went pretty much as expected.
Prediction: The winner of the bounce contest needs a standing vertical bounce or a 360.
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NIRSA
Feb 19, 2007 0:41:37 GMT -5
Post by Durian on Feb 19, 2007 0:41:37 GMT -5
UC Davis tourey "Far Westerns" is over. Not sure who was the top couple of teams. Gold braket was
Utah Valley State Cal UC Davis UC Irvine UCLA UC San Diego Holy Names Not sure who the other team was...
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NIRSA
Feb 19, 2007 3:02:47 GMT -5
Post by gobears on Feb 19, 2007 3:02:47 GMT -5
Semi Finals - Cal d. UCLA 2-0 Davis d Poly 2-1
Finals - Davis d Cal 2-1
Cal won game one of the Finals ( a very carefully played game by both Cal and Davis) and then early in game 2, a bunch of stuff went south for Cal and by the time things were corralled, game 2 was lost. Game 3 was equally silly. Surprised everyone. Davis had some glitches, but basically kept their play on pretty much an even keel and took the win. New Head Coach Joey Elftman (recent Davis grad/player) has figured out the right touch for them, following up on last year's Aaron Wilton.
Frankly the big Cal win in 2 over UCLA was a huge upper as Cal had lost to them Sat morning 1-2. We just took care of business on Sun eve vs UCLA playing carefully and smart and trying to avoid eye rolling choices. I am not sure if that was basically as far as we were going to go. Cal needs more work with 4 first year players.... in pushing thru to the end of matches when bumps in the road emerge. Sometimes we do. Some we don't. Getting to the Finals was beyond expectations, for sure....we see the potential, but know we have more work ahead. Still fiddling with the starting lineup esp in one OH spot, and two setters, and figuring out who does their best work coming off the bench.
Overall a very good tourney for Cal, with a woulda coulda shoulda at the end.
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Full Far Westerns slate of teams:
Sat am wave
UCLA Cal Poly I Holy Names Cal I UCSD Fresno State Chico State St. Mary's Sac State Davis II Stanford UCSB
PM Wave Sat
San Diego State Utah Valley Santa Clara Davis I San Jose State USC Air Force Sonoma State Cal Poly II SF State Cal II UC Irvine
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Feb 20, 2007 2:07:17 GMT -5
Post by zip15 on Feb 20, 2007 2:07:17 GMT -5
On this thread a while back a few people had talked about an exhibition match of NIRSA teams after a Women's Varsity game. Is there anyone from that school that wouldn't mind answering a few questions for me dealing with how much the school helped with the bill, advertising, all that kinda stuff?
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NIRSA
Feb 20, 2007 13:55:42 GMT -5
Post by gobears on Feb 20, 2007 13:55:42 GMT -5
sure...email me at calajb@yahoo.com or put your questions on this thread and I will answer them.
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NIRSA
Feb 20, 2007 14:19:32 GMT -5
Post by BearClause on Feb 20, 2007 14:19:32 GMT -5
On this thread a while back a few people had talked about an exhibition match of NIRSA teams after a Women's Varsity game. Is there anyone from that school that wouldn't mind answering a few questions for me dealing with how much the school helped with the bill, advertising, all that kinda stuff? It wasn't mentioned in the standard weekly media release, but it was mentioned several times over the P.A. system during the women's VB. calbears.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/110106aab.htmlDuring the men's match, several of the Cal women's team coaches were hanging around talking shop while watching.
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NIRSA
Feb 27, 2007 10:16:40 GMT -5
Post by Durian on Feb 27, 2007 10:16:40 GMT -5
*bump
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