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Post by roy on Jan 29, 2007 3:33:18 GMT -5
The problem isn't Hakala's position. Both he and Clar were "roaming" back and forth, hitting both at the left and right side. There are 2 problems with Hakala at the outside position. The first is that as a passer, he can't be a constant offensive option. Depending on the rotation and how he passes the ball, he may not be able to take a good approach, so he won't get the set. I mentioned in another earlier thread that I didn't like Hakala as a passer, as dealing with the pass and then being the offensive option is hard. He has handled that really well.
But the second problem is the overall passing. A lot of the passing is still around the 10 foot line. As in previous matches, the middles are non-factors in the offense, so teams are loading up the outsides. Last year, the passing was so solid that Hakala and the others didn't see a lot of well formed double blocks on them. Good passing lead to that fast offense and didn't give opposing teams enough time to set their defense. This year, without the passing, the opposing defense is able to put up a strong double block up. Even moving Hakala back to the opposite position won't allow him to hit as well as he did last year.
Thus, we are back to the problem of finding passing outside hitters. None of the outsides have stepped it up as solid passers. Once the passing cleans up and Beckwith can start to set all options, the fast offense should reappear.
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Post by northshore on Jan 29, 2007 11:34:36 GMT -5
UH needs to work on a lot right now. Everything. Setting, serving, blocking, passing, hitting,defense, offense....coaching. And how about a little (okay, a LOT) confidence.
The team looked so much better in preseason. They were growing and maturing they way a team should for that time period. They just needed to polish up. Granted illnesses threw a wrench in their plan, but then what were the coaches thinking?
All i know from watching UOP & the Outrigger is sometimes you gotta let the players play through. Coach yanks certain players as soon as they make one little mistake. Grgas for example. They gotta let the kid get rid of the jitters. Coach'll put him for 2-3 points, then out he goes. I agree at some point you gotta pull a player, but jeez. Give the kids some time to warm up in the heat of the battle.
All those boys aren't swinging with their full potential. They look like they're afraid to make a mistake. Gosh, would you just swing already! It happened for Van Zant and Clar. Once they knew they weren't being pulled right away, they gained confidence in their swing. Schkud is finally coming alive, slowly, but he's coming back. Did you see the face plant he gave Penn's libero? Need more swings like that to stay in Schkud!
Beckwith needs patience. His team will come around. He has such talented hands and can clean clean up those ugly passes. But you can start to see his frustration on the court. He's starting to make small setting errors that can be easily fixed.
Serving errors! Yikes. What's up with that? Waaaaay too many. They lost quite a few games just because of their serving. Yep, that'll blow any momentum in a game. UH really needs to clean up their act on serving.
Pet peeve.... I noticed the coaches from the other teams talking to their teams at timeouts. I'm sitting behind the team benches and I'm hearing the these coaches telling their boys useful things. But UH coaches, whole different story. The boosters seem to know more than these coaches. Come on guys, give the players something positive!
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Post by CityTechLegend on Jan 29, 2007 12:32:04 GMT -5
The two points above make SOOOO much sense...made by Roy and Northshore:
1) improve the passing, you improve your team CHEMISTRY...guys build confidence that way. Beckwith rerturns to his form of making great decision with a great pass. Thus making the team multi-demensional and not just a Hakala, one man show.
2) Get these other players unvolved. You WILL need them in the long run and if YOU as a coach show confidence in them, then others around you will also...INCLUDING OTHER TEAM MEMBERS.
If what everyone is saying , UH has the A LOT talent, now use it.
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Post by italianmattd on Jan 29, 2007 14:34:11 GMT -5
It's true with the coaching staff... I know someone on the team and he says that he's looking at different schools to transfer.
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Post by bunnywailer on Jan 29, 2007 15:33:23 GMT -5
Well, Wilton has never been a huggy-feely guy anyway. I personally think his personality is right on par with Doug Beal's, which ain't saying a whole lot. Except Beal doesn't have the "I'm an ex-Marine phear me" vibe going on like Wilton does.
I'd agree with some new blood for the UH program. It's been getting kinda stale for years now.
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Post by vball808 on Jan 29, 2007 16:54:10 GMT -5
Italianmattd, who would u be talking about?.. I understand if its confidential or something... I have a feeling i know who it is.. The Coaching staff is bunch of morons, they take talented players and mold them into nothing... The Players coach themselves... I wouldnt be surprised if a key freshman, or 2, to hawaii's success transfers by seasons end. May be even some sophomores!.. Look out for players on this years roster to be somewhere else... I'm telling u!
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Post by bunnywailer on Jan 29, 2007 17:04:39 GMT -5
I wouldnt be surprised if a key freshman, or 2, to hawaii's success transfers by seasons end. May be even some sophomores!.. Look out for players on this years roster to be somewhere else... I'm telling u! OMG!!! NOT THE SOPHOMORES!!! PLEASE, TAKE ANYTHING YOU WANT BUT PLEASE DON'T TAKE THE SOPHOMORES!!!!! ARGHHHH!!!!!! ;D
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Post by kalena12 on Jan 29, 2007 18:25:42 GMT -5
no wonder hawaii cant get anyone from the islands to come to UH. the vballers on the island already know what to expect from the coaching staff. kawika shoji, spencer mclachlin, riley mckibbin, jordan inafuku, will ehrman, isaac kneubuhl all leaving paradise to play vball in places that get little support. anyone wanna bet brad lawson and erik shoji both leave for mainland schools?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2007 18:41:16 GMT -5
Wilton has always been controversial during his stay in Hawaii. There have been many players who haven't gotten along very well with him in the past. Dejan Miladinovic, Tony Ching, among others had their disagreements with Wilton. In many ways he has the opposite coaching style of Dave Shoji, who is much more laid back, Wilton is more of a screamer in your face type of guy.
I do think it's time for a change though, attendance is way down, they are averaging only 2000 a match nowadays, way down from the glory days with Yuval Katz when they sold out regularly. I just think a lot of the fans have never forgiven him for having the 2002 title stripped. However, I think he will be at Hawaii for at least a few more years as his contract was just renewed. When Wilton does leave though, I would think they could hire a very good coach, according to AD Herman Frazier, Wilton is the highest paid coach in all of men's volleyball.
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Post by bunnywailer on Jan 29, 2007 18:56:04 GMT -5
Andre Breuer.
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Post by jr67 on Jan 29, 2007 20:18:38 GMT -5
I do think it's time for a change though, attendance is way down, they are averaging only 2000 a match nowadays, way down from the glory days with Yuval Katz when they sold out regularly. I just think a lot of the fans have never forgiven him for having the 2002 title stripped. However, I think he will be at Hawaii for at least a few more years as his contract was just renewed. When Wilton does leave though, I would think they could hire a very good coach, according to AD Herman Frazier, Wilton is the highest paid coach in all of men's volleyball. Agreed. His current contract expires 2009. That would be an excellent time to shake things up and to bring in some new blood.
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Post by UHvbFan on Jan 29, 2007 20:43:33 GMT -5
no wonder hawaii cant get anyone from the islands to come to UH. the vballers on the island already know what to expect from the coaching staff. kawika shoji, spencer mclachlin, riley mckibbin, jordan inafuku, will ehrman, isaac kneubuhl all leaving paradise to play vball in places that get little support. anyone wanna bet brad lawson and erik shoji both leave for mainland schools? For most Island kids, the chance to leave home is the driving force. In fact, it may be true for most others as well. Paradise is in the eye of the beholder and one needs to get away to appreciate it. Certainly the possibility of attending an academic top-ranked school (for those who are academically qualified) is a huge draw, unless you are interested in some of the top-ranked programs at UH in ocean sciences, asian languages, astronomy, etc. What one gives up is the rock-star status of the athletes with unprecedented coverage in local media. True, 10,000+ fans no longer pack the arena, but the turnout is generally higher than just about anywhere else.
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Post by vball808 on Jan 30, 2007 3:16:53 GMT -5
I would encourage all island kids to stay away from coach mike wilton and the coaching staff. All there players would have been 10x better if they would have gone to ucla, pepperdine, or byu.. Anyways, point being.. Italianmattd (who ever u may be), u should tell those kids who are thinking about transfering to transfer because it would be better for their volleyball careers to do so. If volleyball isnt important to them then they should stay and be coached by an over the hill person. I dont want to see a Rawson, Cervantes, Frank, Grgas, Carney, or Clar get messed up by a bad situation.
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Post by palo on Jan 30, 2007 12:10:45 GMT -5
Ok so I don't want to pretend I've been following the team for years and know about the coaching staff etc... IMO I think that this team has lost a lot of key players and they are struggling to find a new identity and some consitency.
I truly believe that the biggest loss was Matt Carerre. He was a solid player and his contributions to last years team may have been overlooked a bit. Yes Reft was amazing and passed and dug with the best of them, but who was passing the other balls that were intentionally avoiding Reft? And yes Delgado and Hakala hit the ball hard on the pins, but Carerre had a knack for hitting great shots even when the set wasn't great. Thus far it looks like they are forcing shots that aren't there and getting blocked.
UH is very short on the pins with Hakala, Van Zant, and Clar. It will be very difficult for them to beat the ball past teams big teams like, BYU, Pepp, Irvine, PSU, etc... It appeared that PSU got a lot of touches off the block that turned into easy digs. I thought Clar played great on friday, but looked tired for saturday's match. Grags looked a bit out of sorts and doesn't quite have his timing yet. Dio looks much bulkier than last year and seems a bit slower. And maybe rawson should float serve. Too many errors as a team and his jumper isn't very difficult anyway.
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Post by wang pu on Jan 30, 2007 20:01:55 GMT -5
no wonder hawaii cant get anyone from the islands to come to UH. the vballers on the island already know what to expect from the coaching staff. kawika shoji, spencer mclachlin, riley mckibbin, jordan inafuku, will ehrman, isaac kneubuhl all leaving paradise to play vball in places that get little support. anyone wanna bet brad lawson and erik shoji both leave for mainland schools? I am not sure about this, but I thought that it was discussed here a while ago that Wilton will not give a scholarship to a Hawaii high school product player, that he saves them for the mainlanders and international players.
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