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Post by roy on Jan 28, 2007 2:09:56 GMT -5
30-27, 30-24, 32-30.
Hawaii still having trouble finding their rythem.
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Post by bunnywailer on Jan 28, 2007 2:21:23 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry too much about it. As UCLA proved last year, you can have alot of losses during the regular season, as long as things come together and you get hot going into the playoffs and maintain that through the league tournament and the Final Four.
I think Hawaii is one or two players away from being top tier this year. I still hold out hope that SOMEBODY will step up and be the man. Right now, I see Beckwith as solid and Hakala as solid (no matter what position he plays). I like Rawson's competitiveness and athleticism. He may only be a freshman, but hell he can step up and lead if the team needs it. Just show him some of Yuval Katz' performances from 1995 and that will fire him up.
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Post by ACE on Jan 28, 2007 2:34:16 GMT -5
Hawaii has a player who can lead, but he is not at his normal OPP position.
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Post by bunnywailer on Jan 28, 2007 2:41:04 GMT -5
Hawaii has a player who can lead, but he is not at his normal OPP position. Oh, definetely. It's a well-known volleyball fact that leadership can ONLY be demonstrated from the OPPOSITE position. Once you move a player from that spot to any other on the court, they automatically lose all the leadership ability they had and become a meek follower.
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Post by aaronic on Jan 28, 2007 3:32:18 GMT -5
If you had to ask me what I thought of the match, my comment would be:
"I have nothing to say."
... and I don't mean that because i'm speechless or literaly dumbfounded by this. If you've read my ranting from at least the post on a day ago, you'd no why. Nothing good will happen if certain people can't just wake up and realize things!
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Post by bbk on Jan 28, 2007 9:33:46 GMT -5
Hawaii has a player who can lead, but he is not at his normal OPP position. Oh, definetely. It's a well-known volleyball fact that leadership can ONLY be demonstrated from the OPPOSITE position. Once you move a player from that spot to any other on the court, they automatically lose all the leadership ability they had and become a meek follower. I am unsure if I agree with that premise but with Hawaii Volleyball this may be true. I seem to remember that Pepperdine rode Rooney from OH (although some would argue Mayer was the glue), UCLA worked it with Damien Scott and Klosterman (junior OPP) and BYU had 2 OH's that outshined Hillman but they also had Burke and Batista. Hawaii may need that OPP leader but teams have won without one.
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Post by vbcosta14 on Jan 28, 2007 12:43:45 GMT -5
Penn State is just getting better and better
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Post by ACE on Jan 28, 2007 13:36:44 GMT -5
Hawaii has a player who can lead, but he is not at his normal OPP position. Oh, definetely. It's a well-known volleyball fact that leadership can ONLY be demonstrated from the OPPOSITE position. Once you move a player from that spot to any other on the court, they automatically lose all the leadership ability they had and become a meek follower. Well, when you're an AA at OPP and probably practiced during the off season as OPP, and only switched to the OH because of injuries, he cannot lead his team as well...the RESULTS speak for themselves, his numbers speak for themselves. It's not a bash at Hakala, it's a bash at the coashes decision to put him at OH. Hakala looks better, plays better at OPP, put him there and that would open up the OH.
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Post by bbk on Jan 28, 2007 14:26:11 GMT -5
Penn State is just getting better and better There is not much in the EIVA that they have to worry about. They should win the bid from there and get crushed in Columbus.
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Post by bunnywailer on Jan 28, 2007 15:06:41 GMT -5
Oh, definetely. It's a well-known volleyball fact that leadership can ONLY be demonstrated from the OPPOSITE position. Once you move a player from that spot to any other on the court, they automatically lose all the leadership ability they had and become a meek follower. Well, when you're an AA at OPP and probably practiced during the off season as OPP, and only switched to the OH because of injuries, he cannot lead his team as well...the RESULTS speak for themselves, his numbers speak for themselves. It's not a bash at Hakala, it's a bash at the coashes decision to put him at OH. Hakala looks better, plays better at OPP, put him there and that would open up the OH. Do you actually know anything about volleyball or are you just a pure Hakala fanboy? Will Hakala say anything different to lead/inspire his team when he is playing Opposite than he would playing L1 or L2? I don't think so. He's a smart enough guy and a skilled and experienced volleyball player. He knows exactly why he's playing where he's playing right now - he put up numbers on the left last night as good as any he's had playing Opposite, and better numbers than anyone else could have put up playing in that spot. There is a difference between putting up stats and helping your team. Where Hakala plays had absolutely no impact on UH's losses to Loyola or Penn State. If UH wants to win, they need to address their serving issues, and their blocking and defensive issues. The offense is not the problem right now.
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Post by VollyDolly on Jan 28, 2007 16:59:42 GMT -5
Well, when you're an AA at OPP and probably practiced during the off season as OPP, and only switched to the OH because of injuries, he cannot lead his team as well...the RESULTS speak for themselves, his numbers speak for themselves. It's not a bash at Hakala, it's a bash at the coashes decision to put him at OH. Hakala looks better, plays better at OPP, put him there and that would open up the OH. Do you actually know anything about volleyball or are you just a pure Hakala fanboy? Will Hakala say anything different to lead/inspire his team when he is playing Opposite than he would playing L1 or L2? I don't think so. He's a smart enough guy and a skilled and experienced volleyball player. He knows exactly why he's playing where he's playing right now - he put up numbers on the left last night as good as any he's had playing Opposite, and better numbers than anyone else could have put up playing in that spot. There is a difference between putting up stats and helping your team. Where Hakala plays had absolutely no impact on UH's losses to Loyola or Penn State. If UH wants to win, they need to address their serving issues, and their blocking and defensive issues. The offense is not the problem right now. Really? He's hitting .161 on the year and last night's hitting line at 13-5-36 for .222 was his second best hitting night of the year. Not bad, but definately not "as good as any he's had playing opposite." Although his defense numbers have been solid. But really, I agree, he's hardly the issue right now. Like you said, defense and serving need to improve and the blocking they showed against UOP last week needs to return.
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Post by kalena12 on Jan 28, 2007 18:31:59 GMT -5
i wouldnt necesarily say that hakala is solid. not from his outside hitting position. i think hawaii needs him on the right. until hawaii has a solid outside hitter, JUST ONE, then i dont think theyll be very competitive in the mpsf. however, that being said, the regular season really doesnt mean much, especially this year. finish in the top eight. get in the mpsf tournament and ANYTHING, i mean ANYTHING, can happen.
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Post by kalena12 on Jan 28, 2007 18:33:00 GMT -5
penn state looks like theyll be a contender at the end of the year. they just need some time. theyve got all the pieces. holt looks like the top middle in the country, although his numbers last nite were modest. and the gutor anderson combination looks good.
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Post by volleyfred on Jan 28, 2007 21:55:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure Holt is even in the top 5 middles in the country.
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Post by CityTechLegend on Jan 28, 2007 22:29:53 GMT -5
What has happehned to the prospects from a few years ago...Jimmy Clar and Marc Ribeiro, weren't they suppose to fill the role of OH??? I know marc, saw him play here on the East Coast for LIVBC, he's an athletics kid, hasn't he developed well over the past two years. What about some of the freshman; Grgas, Vidinha, or Dyer???
If Hakala is so much better at the opposite then leave him at opposite. Work one of your younger guys in. They have to learn eventually, why not now???
Now I'm not saying it's the smartest thing to do. However, if people in the stands, volleyball lovers or even a schmoe who knows anything about volleyball can see that Hakala isn't comfortable (YET) at the OH position and can better help the team at the OPP then leave him there. You never know maybe getting one of the young guys a chance will spark some life back into the team.
As someone stated in this thread, and you can ask UCLA (last years champs), the #8 Seed can shock anybody. All you need to do is get there first.
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